Dear Chels

Still so arrogant eh? ShinYi's right; the onus is on you to explain and clear your name here. Anyway Evil can't be held responsible should you delay payment again! Hopefully you are refunding everyone today.

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This post has been edited by EvilBeing: Apr 17 2011, 08:24 AM

Evil

What she meant is that she wanted to settle the whole lot on the same day.

Good luck to all.

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This post has been edited by EvilBeing: Apr 17 2011, 08:24 AM

If I have ready stock of course I would do cod. Unfortunately most of my customers that quoted for postage are from other states. You may check with them if you like, it's all in my successful tradelist

So now the next issue is my vocabulary

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Added on March 28, 2011, 8:14 pm
I already knew this would happen earlier. She wouldn't admit fault, you could hardly see her apologize even once. And I see that she even told you she have contacted her lawyer that no action could be taken on her.

I guess she doesn't like me though. I'll just stop here. Wish u guys got back your funds fast.

This post has been edited by iampokemon: Mar 28 2011, 08:41 PM

totally agree with ShinYi..

BTW EvilBeing since when you being her assistant need to help her do da explanation? joking ya..

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Added on March 29, 2011, 12:17 amhmm.. again 1-2 days delay...

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This post has been edited by EvilBeing: Apr 17 2011, 08:24 AM

LYN buyer with euphoria88

euphoria88 with the US supplier

den up is the LYN buyer who need to report the US supplier?

i tot is euphoria88 and US supplier problem and she needs to refund LYN buyer then only she settle her US supplier case?

no ppls will care weather what the seller gain or loss.. ppl only will care how much they have paid you and when you can refund...

correct me if wrong..

p/s: actually story is self made which is true which is false only the person know.. how many % to trust is depends on the buyer.. twist twist i don think buyer need to waste their time to get refund cause the reason US supplier MIA..

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Added on March 29, 2011, 12:37 amnop.. i don know her LOL i just wanna be busybody... wan act pro like apis ahahahhahahahhaha

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This post has been edited by EvilBeing: Apr 17 2011, 08:25 AM

LOL... what i mean is euphoria88 shouldn't delay the refunds for so long and giving the excuse the US supplier MIA and how much she loss is her problem no need to tell the buyer..

i'm a seller in FB. sometime i meet some supplier MIA with my buyer money i will refund them ASAP wit my own money then only i will dig da supplier out cause buyer is innocent they pay money is to get their wishlist.

yes she didn't mention she wont be refunding but at least give a exactly date and keep her words to ppl.. this just will spoiling her own reputation. i think she select those who no rush her or no talk many craps... LOL refund follow by list is the fair square for others but mayb she think other better way.. who knows...

and i think i also will full stop here and really wish you guys will really get refund ASAP from euphoria88..

i feel apis is great la can get the info very fast.. and he helped me before.. LOL

This post has been edited by 9876: Mar 29 2011, 01:44 AM

/start rant

just readin thru here.. almost an hour readin ppl complains.. wow theres a lot of cheating going on in LYN.

this is me speaking my brains out.

there are 2 types of problematic trader.

1. is a real scammer ( main purpose is to scam)
2. is a real seller with supplier problems. (going to be mark as a scammer if he/she runs bcause cant settle the debts.)
3. is a seller that exaggerate his/her ads for his/her items/product. which turns out to be not so satisfying as the ads. (end up being called a liar and eventually, a scammer)

the problem with this seller is mark as no.2.

take order from buyer, order stuffs from supplier, and then they give promises to the buyers of when that item will arrive

after that if the supplier have a problem(cant deliver, or worst come to worst, a scammer). thats when things gonna get crazy with the seller.

she/he gonna start to think; a) shud i run? b) pay with own money c) delay until people forget.

when the seller dont have any cash-in-hand, and ppl starts asking refunds.. and literally make a dispute thread against them. the seller is going for the "its-not-my-fault-its-the-supplier" defense.

just one thing to be clear.. to all the seller..

"what happen with you and your friggin supplier is none of the buyer(s) problem"

sell your car or loan a bank or whatever, nobody cares... dont put empty promises. (from days to months) *sigh*

if you cant deliver, you refunds. its not your money, its theirs. thats it.

/end rant

::now i can go to sleep.. this forum is so addictive::

Chels said she has already lost RM9580.00 including refunds. Assuming refunds made were RM3000.00 that means her UK supplier owes her RM6580.00; which is rather odd.

Lots of stuff were ordered online and sent to her supplier's UK address. Why did she have to pay UK supplier for full amount? Assuming she paid to UK supplier for full amount of goods ordered by us, she could always set off those OOS credits against the next batch and so forth. How did it accumulate to such a huge figure?

For eg. my last order with her was Asos stuff. She could have ordered them and got the stuff within 14 days and sent them to me. But she didn't; after more than 2 months she chose to refund me saying that supplier did not reply and that she was refunding me with her salary. She initially said my stuff were easy; already at UK address. I'm baffled; don't know what to believe.

While typing this the postman brought the Asos top that was missing from my last order from Asos (I did not order through Chels) and within 3 days Asos refunded me when I told them that it did not arrive. From my dealings with Asos they are pretty quick with refunds.

Whatever the reasons Chels is answerable to her buyers.

Chels, do consult your lawyer regarding the law of contract.

I thought I refunded you on Feb with most of the others, thats why I ignored you. about the march PM, you'll be aliasing with evil. TQ.

okay, first of all, I just send links, sizes and colours to them and they'll do the ordering. In order to do so, I have to bank in a stated amount (rounded figure). And when one OOS, they'll refund. One of them allows me to place it as store credit, 2 of them don't. So if I have orders, I have to bank in order to order so nothing can OOS, get what I mean? Refunds made are more than 4k. I lost count.

Thats what he told me, then he said wrong order (not mine, is another client's) after 2 months. Then I ask why ASOS said delivered? He said he got it but returned it. I got in touch with ASOS and they said they never got returns for my stuff. Sigh. I dunno la.

Consulted, he said for now still helpless in international online tradings. Even local tradings can press charges but penalty cannot do much damage to culprit.

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Added on March 29, 2011, 4:57 pmWrong. Their money is at the supplier's side, so if you're refunding them w/o getting any money from supplier, its YOUR money.

This post has been edited by euphoria88: Mar 29 2011, 04:57 PM

see. this means you dont know the law of the trade.
the buyer deals with you. you deals with supplier.
the buyer money is with you, and your money is with the supplier.

buyer only wants the stuff or a refund. we dont need the headache of thinking what you going through. its your RESPONSIBILITY as a seller to refunds if the buyer asked you to, because u cant deliver on time.

what makes you think people chase you and not the supplier?
if the supplier dont return the money, you dont pay you buyer? is that your way of conducting business?

eg:

you order some stuff from MnG or any boutique, you pay cash, then they dont deliver.
you go back to the shop and the seller say "go deal with our supplier, we cant return money, you have to wait until our supplier refund us first"
you can wait? for a RM100 you have to wait for 3 months?

I get what you mean, but still I did pay them, else explain those that got their refunds, HOWEVER, this is not as simple as dealing with MNG. Clearly you do not know whats the difference with Baskin Robbins and Haagen Dazs, although they both sell ice cream.

Everyone has their opinion and in this case you brought up a very good argument.
Thank you for sharing your views It's much appreciated from my end.

This post has been edited by EvilBeing: Mar 29 2011, 09:15 PM

Chels you bungled!

You should have placed the orders directly instead of just sending links to your suppliers; then you just need to pay them for their services and usage of UK addresses. How silly of you to agree when they didn't allow you to place OOS as store credit.

Unfortunately, the contract is between your suppliers and you; nothing to do with your buyers. When I said 'check with your lawyer' I actually meant the contract between you and your buyers. In this case the buyers here have every right to demand refunds from you. When you run a business you must have an initial capital outlay. You refund with the capital that you started with and not from your salary!

Another issue is the delay in sending out orders to your buyers. I noticed some buyers practically begging you and pleading with you to send them their items which you already had in hand. You lied about sending out my stuff too.

Whatever your reasons/excuses may be nobody's going to care. You botched so you have to pay the price. At the end of the day you still have to refund everyone. I feel sooooo sorry for you and wish you lots of luck with your suppliers.

this euphoria88 is not an honest seller for sure. send some damage clothing and claimed it's new. anyway, i think we have given her way too much time and being too lenient.

Last known details is below:

Name: Yap Sook Leng aka euphoria88
Address: 12, Jalan Jelutong Pekan Meru, Klang, Selangor
H/P: 019-2363537

"Wrong. Their money is at the supplier's side, so if you're refunding them w/o getting any money from supplier, its YOUR money. " -
YAP SOOK LENG


What a joke.

Twisted mind with a twisted personality.

U may fool us once, twice but not anymore.

Your house and office is not far from us.

Keep that in your twisted mind, Yap Sook Leng.



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