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post Mar 24 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 24 2011, 09:51 AM)
My meaning of DISCO = discontinue doh.gif
You really should update your abbreviation !
And i don't even say dinasour or anything. I'm using one of it. YOU'RE THE ONE SAYING THAT !
My apologies. Didn't know I was in a factory forum but then it's comforting to know that I'm not the only one who was not aware what DISCO meant.

Something new learnt today. Thank you. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 24 2011, 12:05 PM)
18-70mm for RM 600. well the condition is 8/10.
I am happy with my purchase but I don't know what's wrong with him.
anyway reported.
hmm.gif I come back I see lots of things happen. I thought I was involved in a war but it seems things have changed? rclxub.gif

Speaking of buying / selling, I can vouch to say that you sold to my friend the lens for a good price and in good condition. thumbup.gif Never had the chance to thank you.

Anyway, for a seller selling a lens knowing full well that there is something very wrong with it without any disclosure is plain unethical lah.

QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 24 2011, 12:55 PM)
Thanks i was looking that.

If Sigma 30mm and 35mm f2 , i always take 35mm f2

Just the 30mm 1.4 and 35mm 1.8g only , want to know which one better

Anyway my first choice is sigma 20mm but too bad i unable to autofocus. sienz !

Thanks for your sharing . Guess i wont buy any lens this few month , straight go grab 24mm 1.4g
There's no wrong and right. A lot of other factors will come in when choosing a lens. Wide enough, fast enough etc. Depends on user preference. Sharpness is one thing. But the outcome of the pics must look good. No point of having a technically superior lens but does not ngam your shooting style.

At that time when I was looking at the 35mm f/2, the 35mm f/1.8 wasn't available yet and the other choice was the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. I wanted slightly wider and a bigger aperture and therefore the Sigma was my choice. At that time, the Nikkor AF-D 28mm f/1.4 was freaking expensive and you can only find it on ebay at ludicrous prices. rclxub.gif

So go out and test. See which focal length suits you. Perhaps you might fall in love with the 35mm f/1.4 and not the more expensive 24mm f/1.4.

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Mar 24 2011, 01:02 PM)
i'm funding for 85g. Even got a 24-70 mug replica to remind me to save. brows.gif
LOL Hope you don't terbeli a 24-70 instead. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 28 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Mar 25 2011, 09:26 PM)
Unker ianho sure will ask you use 16mm with FF.
Nikon users should be proud of using 14mm on Full Frame. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Mar 25 2011, 04:10 PM)
Now i use 70-300mm. Hoping to own a 400mm 2.8 next time
400mm f/2.8 is heavy and still not enough reach. For sports photographer, that would be nice. Better get the 600mm f/4 for about the same weight and price.

But for "lightweight" and still giving good reach, the 500mm f/4 is the one most people get for birding.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 26 2011, 02:05 PM)
actually there is... you cant capture sharp photos with low MP right? But skill is much more important...
Mpixel isn't everything. It's about the quality of the light captured. A 4Mpixel body used to be my main camera.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 26 2011, 02:07 PM)
Actually, it is easier to capture sharp images with low MP, because with higher MP you need better lens for it.

Take 18200 for example, it looks ok on D90/D300s 12MP sensor, but looks soft on D7000's 16MP sensor.
That's correct.

QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Mar 26 2011, 03:11 PM)
huhu sharp enough? using 18-55mm non-VR version and magnifying glass for cheap macro alternative
Very good attempt. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 26 2011, 06:46 PM)
It's only for you I guess, my friends case the Nikon centre always ask for their receipt eventhough the warranty card is unfilled  doh.gif
I think they will ask the receipt all the more if the see a blank warranty card. laugh.gif

QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 26 2011, 10:42 PM)
Who want do street photography tomoro ?

List
1. Me
2. Eddie
3. Aldo

Please leave down msg in thread if you want to

Welcome all , NOT only for Nikon gangs.
Would have considered joining. Was away at the BKK Motorshow. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(loverjinx @ Mar 27 2011, 01:49 AM)
ho ho ho

new toy  biggrin.gif
Congrats. rclxms.gif How much was it?

QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 28 2011, 01:05 AM)
my advice.. dont shoot while walking or running  tongue.gif (i meant, you. not ur subject)
Any reason why?
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post Mar 28 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Mar 28 2011, 05:19 PM)
Between 70200 and 85G, which is more addictive? brows.gif
You raised some good points. If you're shooting events or in a crowd, you cannot beat the 70-200mm f/2.8 for versatility. If you shoot one on one and pay the model for a private shooting, then yes you can have the 85mm f/1.4 as you'll have all the time to compose your framing.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:21 PM)
Because I already have a 1635 tongue.gif That is why 24 and 35 not exactly that addictive.
Speaking about 24mm f/1.4, even though it overlaps with 3 of my other lenses, it's very special and has a special light gathering ability.

QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:23 PM)
Exactly, best is to get both  thumbup.gif . If i really have to suggest, I would say 70-200vr2 first  drool.gif
laugh.gif Yup. Get both. drool.gif


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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Mar 28 2011, 05:58 PM)
Hahaha... easier to say.. that's the problem when I enjoy shooting portraits and weddings at the same time...=.=;;
Don't need to get the latest N lenses lor. Get the AF-D 80-200mm f/2.8 and AF-D 85mm f/1.4. Don't need to get the latest and greatest. I'm also shooting with these two. Well, not exactly since my 80-200mm f/2.8 is the AF-S version.
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post Mar 29 2011, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Mar 28 2011, 08:38 PM)
Still got much to learn about this sweat.gif
Nice attempt. Not bad. smile.gif

QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 28 2011, 10:43 PM)
The fungus is really mild, like water vapour only, not like got fur fur that serious....
My LED torchlight at home dead, den go there see the lens damn spanking new.... front element totally no dust, den open aperture didn't check under strong light, dim yellow light only..... went back tried focus many times oso felt like back focus, than only notice got vapour look of fungus  sweat.gif
Luckily you managed to refund but can fungus affect focusing performance of the lens? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 28 2011, 10:51 PM)
checked back my D70s shot many shot cannot use to post here because in airport outside i forget wipe dust on my lens  doh.gif
go back put in PC realized  got many dirt on photos  doh.gif
Hmmm, usually dust on lens cannot be seen. Usually the dust on the camera sensor is the one that screws up the photo.

QUOTE(davinyan @ Mar 29 2011, 12:28 AM)
anyone have this problem with D300S when shooting video under fluorescent light?
The video have wave-like effect. i m not sure why. think is fps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGX8QUh-18

need some advice. Thks.
Usually, fluorescent lighting emits different waves of light at different frequency intervals and shooting a video under that lighting will show. I'm not too sure but a faster video fps would be the solution?

On another note, setting fluorescent WB and taking photos under that lighting can be frustrating sometimes because one photo would look ok while at another time, you'd get a different colour tintdepending on which light interval flicker you capture.


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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 29 2011, 09:22 AM)
Never buy second hand items from him tongue.gif. Who knows got fungus haha!
LOL Actually people who use their lenses daily would not have fungus problems.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 29 2011, 09:52 AM)
Not true. Back in my university days, I have a friend who carries his D60 + 18-55 everywhere he goes. Shoots daily and his 18-55 is still affected by fungus. Prevention is better than cure  wink.gif .
Yup, prevention is always better but there is a difference between using and abusing. Could be that your friend falls into the latter category.
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QUOTE(loverjinx @ Mar 29 2011, 12:44 PM)
how about when you guys go outstation and stay in the hotel room with all your gears for 1-2 days ? what i've experienced is the hotel room gets so cold that when you go out and start shooting pics, the lens gets all hazy and blur. easy to get fungus huh ? tongue.gif
Well, if you keep your lens straight away in storage and not let the water vapour evaporate and dry up, chances of fungus is high.

It's usually ok if you your lenses fog when going from cold to warm places since straight away after that you would be using your lens and after 20 minutes or so, the fog disappears which is an indication that the water vapour has already dried up. I usually do not shoot straight away. Coming out of the hotel room, I leave it in my bag to slowly warm up to ambient temperature.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 29 2011, 12:59 PM)
those around PJ, this is from digital mall sec 14.

http://www.facebook.com/digitalmall
wonder what kinda cleaning service for lens...
I believe the cleaning will only be external type. No opening of lens.

I must say it's a very cleaver baiting system. Once you are there, they will push accessories, filters etc to you.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 29 2011, 10:32 PM)
borrow play play see aperture enough high or not or need 1.4  tongue.gif
or duno wan get macro lens or not since i like to shoot miniature and gunpla as well... or food...
You don't need a macro lens for your miniatures unless you want to shoot and blow up very tiny small details. The 18-55 lens is sufficient actually because you can get very close to your subject.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 29 2011, 10:32 PM)
by the way what is the average maximum SC for D70s? my D70s SC is 10k plus only hmm.gif
Considering the external damage that you have on your D70s, it seems to be a little weird that the SC is so low.

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 29 2011, 11:28 PM)
my noob food shoot with my new lens tongue.gif
Where did you get that food in UK? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jfrymdwsz @ Mar 30 2011, 12:40 AM)
Noob question here: Just curious, is it possible for anyone to change the screen count of a dslr like some workshop do to cars' meter? Thanks!
Change your whole shutter unit and your camera's shutter count will reset to zero. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 30 2011, 10:27 AM)
D7000 metering better than D700 whistling.gif
Really?

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 30 2011, 11:50 AM)
Go try yourself !
I got like 5 friends using D700 come and tell me this sweat.gif
So you're implying that a D3 (which has same focusing algorithm as the D700) is inferior to D7000? Can you trust what your friends are saying? whistling.gif

The D7000's AF is better than the D90's AF that it replaces but it's still not a D300/D300s and it's definitely not near D700 AF capability.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 30 2011, 11:57 AM)
i asking that because my friend yesterday play play D70s when he attaching his 1.8 on my body...then he said..hmm this sounds like your D70s wan die already?... then i was "what?" if i not mistaken max SC for D70s is 60k-80k right?
Car with low mileage can also die if it's not taken proper care.

Why did your friend say your D70s is going to die? Base on what reason?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 30 2011, 12:10 PM)
The D7000 is using a new sensor, 2 times the pixels used by D700. 1024 versus 2056 if not mistaken. Much more accurate. WB, metering etc. But then again, if you shoot manual and spot metering style then it doesn't matter biggrin.gif.
It's not 2 times the pixel. The D7000 is 4,928 x 3,264 while the D700 is 4,256 x 2,832. If you print it out on paper, 12MP to 16MP is not so much more.

QUOTE(loverjinx @ Mar 30 2011, 12:43 PM)
i really hope that's the case ! if u change the car's engine the mileage also wont reset to zero tongue.gif other parts still got wear and tear...
Aiks... laugh.gif Don't take the car analogy bulat-bulat lah... The difference with cameras is that the only moving part is the shutter mechanism. With the car you have a lot of other mechanical parts as well.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 30 2011, 01:04 PM)
if not mistaken, when u replace the shutter...the old count still remains.
to reset to zero would require accessing the firmware...
I would think somewhere along the lines of recalibrating the new shutter with the old body, the counter gets reset.

QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 30 2011, 01:15 PM)
i dont have street photos~ just hv B+W baby~
Looks like your pics are front focused? What lens + body?

QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 30 2011, 01:15 PM)
last week i replaced my old d40 shutter set. the count also reset as well~
Yup.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 30 2011, 01:32 PM)
More like handshake to me, can't figure out where the focus is.
It looks more front focused. If it was handshake, the prints of the shirt at the bottom would also be blurred. It's sharp.

QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 30 2011, 01:35 PM)
yeah.. OOF.. its night that time.. and she's too active.. plus with my low skill.. any tips?
What focus mode are you using? AF-C or AF-S?
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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Mar 30 2011, 01:41 PM)
VR might help? Better yet, use a flashgun
VR won't help because the camera focused on the wrong area.

A flashgun would help if you have a shaky hand but still would not help if the camera focused on the wrong area.

I cannot see the EXIF but I suspect it's shot at wide open with thin DoF.

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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Mar 30 2011, 01:47 PM)
When I used canon, when you replace the shutter. It means you are back to 0. The numbering inside your memory card can be restarted again.
Example: When your shutter before it died was IMG_1234. Then after changing, it can continue IMG_1235 or start back fresh at IMG_0001.  smile.gif So I guess it is the same for Nikon.
With the Canon, you cannot see the shutter count from the EXIF and therefore rely on the image numbering to estimate the number of shots from the camera. Of course with the help of the Canon SC you can check. With the Nikon, you can reset the image counter of the JPG/NEF file anytime you want. However the EXIF will always tell the truth about the shutter count.
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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Mar 30 2011, 01:50 PM)
Yup I was refering to handshake. VR doesn't help if there's minimal handshake?
VR will help reduce handshake but in this case not because the photo blur is not caused by handshake.

Like I said, look at the pic carefully. You'll see that the bottom part where the shirt is closest to the camera is sharp. If it was handshake problem, the shirt will also be blur. This is clearly a case of the camera front focusing.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 30 2011, 01:53 PM)
RM8xxx price tag comes with a 50mm f/1.4D.
Not true. I bought very close to 8k for my D700 body only which one week later konk. sad.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 30 2011, 01:53 PM)
I am referring to the RGB sensor. That is the sensor in charge of metering, white balance and also when using area mode AF.

The D7000 comes with the new 2016-pixel RGB sensor where else the D300/D300s/D700/D3/D3s/D3x uses the old 1005-pixel RGB sensor.

http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/.../features02.htm
Oh, ok. Still that does not make it a D300/D300s/D700/D3/D3s/D3x beater when it comes to focusing.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 30 2011, 02:27 PM)
maybe handshake tongue.gif
yeahh.. mostly my shutter is like 1/8-1/20 hehehe
Try and use the Auto ISO feature. Set minimum shutter speed (eg 1/80 for 50mm on DX body) and minimum ISO to 1600 or 3200 whichever you choose. Set the ISO increment to 1/3 of stop instead of half or 1 full stop.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 30 2011, 02:36 PM)
Still back to the same question. Have you try it ? If not all those facts you said, is plain facts !
Celciuz and I were talking about 2016 RGB sensor, which is the first in the world !
I have not. Why don't you send this private question to Nikon and see what they reply? biggrin.gif Ask sports photographers if the D7000 AF is serious enough for sports use.

Do you think Nikon would still be selling D700 for nearly double the price of the D7000? Think about it.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 30 2011, 03:07 PM)
D90 to D7000 not much different la. Might as well go FF smile.gif
Now why would you want to do that? Isn't D7000 the better camera?

QUOTE(nhl @ Mar 30 2011, 03:14 PM)
><" how about d90 change to d300s ?
If you're changing, what are you looking for? The D300s has better AF and ergonomics. Else, both are similar.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 30 2011, 03:43 PM)
If have not, don't act you know everything la.
We were talking about metering. Not AF. Why the heck you bring in AF ? doh.gif
We didn't even mention AUTOFOCUS doh.gif
Aiks... My apologies.

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 30 2011, 07:55 PM)
i cook it myself tongue.gif i cook here so can buy more lenses. (seriously if i cook myself, jimat alot woo laugh.gif )
Cool. Looks tasty. drool.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 30 2011, 05:38 PM)
Well, if u underexpose with low iso, the noise will be worst than correctly expose with high iso. First, get the exposure right.
Unless you have a D700/D3/D3s. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(eddy230379 @ Mar 30 2011, 09:03 PM)
the 3 D3k series users that gang banged me last Sunday ...

SSY22, Aldo & Beanie ...
biggrin.gif The left and right are with 35mm f/1.8?

QUOTE(jfrymdwsz @ Mar 31 2011, 06:37 AM)
How much did it cost you to change your shutter set?
The reason I asked this sc question earlier is becos I'm planning to buy a secondhand body,
and like most ppl buying used cars will want to know the cars' mileage, I also want to the
camera's 'mileage'. So does any of you sifu know how to really tell how used a camera is apart
from looking at its physical appearance (i.e. its wear and tear)? TQ!
Take a latest JPG file shot from the Nikon camera you're planning to buy. Look at the EXIF data of the JPG file and you can see how many shots already fired from the camera.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 31 2011, 06:50 PM)
i saw one uncle with nikon 14-24 today at MV tongue.gif
Aiks... Uncle? unsure.gif What body?

QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 31 2011, 06:58 PM)
why? was that u? tongue.gif
iirc, white hair wearing orange shirt...
Oh, than it's not me. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(andrewng88 @ Mar 31 2011, 07:02 PM)
http://www.fohsan.com.my/photo_contest/vie...hoto.php?id=105

Foh San photo contest ! view and vote if you like ... just sharing smile.gif
Wah, Foh San also got photo competition? I use to pop in Foh San everytime I pass by Ipoh. Sometimes miss the timing for Dim Sum as it's already too late. There's actually one at SS2 PJ but I don't know if it's still there. I thought it was already closed.

QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Mar 31 2011, 07:37 PM)
Is 70-200 that nice? Cause currently using a 24-70 and a 200mm Micro.
The 200mm micro is a legend ! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(stsh90 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:23 PM)
Also on Photoshop, learn the basics before attending workshops on it. He did mention he learned Photoshop over the years, don't remember him mentioning about attending Photoshop workshop himself.
Self taught from exchanging ideas and tips on the internet.

QUOTE(stsh90 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:23 PM)
IMO, it was interesting to learn how he actually ventured from an amateur with PnS to a professional now. Simply inspiring. And he also revealed that he doesn't really know about strobes and he seldom uses them.
It helps that you get a muse (two in fact) that are really good models.

QUOTE(noobie1 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:27 PM)
haha..but if without flash, the only way is either change body or get big aperture lens..
Or like what he says, stop shooting after 5pm. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:36 PM)
haha my friend last time quote a photographer qoute: " tele lens is for cowards"  laugh.gif
Errr, not if you carry a 200mm f/2.0. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 1 2011, 08:20 AM)
Ahh, the f/2D looks pretty bad at f/2 compared to the other 2 from the review o_O.
Yup. But then some people will maintain to say that the 35mm f/2.0 is sharp wide open. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Apr 1 2011, 10:38 AM)
I suggest 35mm 1.8
it worth value of moneh.  brows.gif
not to say I hate 35mm f2 or biased toward f 1.8
but seriously play with both you know it.
I shoot my 35 1.8 mostly at f2 or f2.2
it is sharp enough well for 35mm f2 you don't expect magic happen on rm 1000++ lens right?

of course you still have to step it down.
The only lenses that shoots sharp at wide open are the 24mm f/2.4, 35mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4 and 200mm f/2.0.

QUOTE(noobie1 @ Apr 1 2011, 10:45 AM)
just wondering, why buy 1.8 but dont shoot 1.8? might as well straight buy f2d?
Because the 35mm f/2.0 must be stopped down further to f/2.2, f/2.5, f/2.8. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 1 2011, 12:41 PM)
Actually I think that 85D soft wide open due to AF accuracy. The 85D isn't as accurate as 85G in terms of focusing.
The newer 85mm f/1.4G should be better lah since it's newer tech.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 1 2011, 02:52 PM)
Different people has different eyes, seriously. My friend said 85D sharp but to me soft. Same as 35mm case.
Well, the past samples you show was said to be sharp but I don't find it sharp. How?

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 1 2011, 03:46 PM)
some shot during lunch, shooting with 50mm f1.8
C&C  smile.gif
I don't know about others but I think you did good. Looks great. rclxms.gif

BTW, happy birthday. I very geli your avatar. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Terbulance @ Apr 1 2011, 03:51 PM)
For those who didn't attend last night talk biggrin.gif
Great shot of Manny. biggrin.gif

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