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 BNM New Rulings on CC, No more card to card approve

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post Mar 19 2011, 01:08 AM

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wow, so fast you guys heard the news.
You guys are really informative.

Anyway, I see where they are coming from. They try to discourage "low income" earners living on credit, which the low income now had been termed as annual income less than 24k.

But the way they are forcing the banks to implement/enforce it is rather hard. Because in one hand they are stating customer rights, but on the other hand, they are forcing banks to be the "bad" guy for terminating customer's card. sweat.gif

And one thing about Malaysian declared income is seriously out. Malaysian as malaysian, many has "outside" income which is not declared. If you guys have the access to CCRIS or bank's customer base, you wouldn't be surprise to see a guy with low declared income but holding multiple property loans and hire purchases. doh.gif
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post Apr 11 2011, 11:43 PM

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The problem with BNM is they leave everything ambiguous and expect the banks to do the dirty job.
For example, a guys with income RM36k may retain 2 issuer. So currently he has 4 issuers, which bank want to make the 1st move to cut the guy's line and card? I bet that no bank wants to take the first step.
When BNM audit the banks, what is the banks best defense? They can claim that the guy wants to stay with them and it's the other banks whom should cut the relationship.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. I just can't seem to figure out this could be implemented for existing card holders. sweat.gif


Added on April 11, 2011, 11:48 pmInsider tips - ABM is trying to come up with a method to justify a person's income via proxy based on the customer's cards, housing loan or hire purchase then propose to BNM as a justification for a said customer's income.

Like I say, no one wants to lose the current pie they are holding.

This post has been edited by b00n: Apr 11 2011, 11:48 PM
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post Apr 12 2011, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 12 2011, 05:33 PM)
If I don't have have any loans but got many cards can ar? They should just adopt my suggestions, no outstanding balance for 12 consecutive months, then the individual not subjected to the guideline. That would immediately translate to half the battle being won.
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You wouldn't be affected because your income more than that already tongue.gif
The banks are desperate trying to retain their market shares, who knows; they might adopt that. haha provided BNM agrees to their proposal.

It's funny when CIMB and Maybank declared that only 8% of their card base is less RM36k and less. Hard to believe though.

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post Nov 22 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(sheeta @ Nov 21 2011, 01:20 PM)
Hi, I have a question regarding this new rule.

Say, for example, my credit limit is 20k, and I have spent 18k.
Then, the bank cut my CL to 5k.
I understand that I will be give  a grace period of 2 years to pay the debts.  And I have to pay at least 5% every month.

My question is, how is the bank going to calculate the interest & finance charge for the outstanding balance? Does it work like the normal way, 18K * 17.5%.
until u make a full payment?
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They will most probably need to convert your balance to sort of an installment for you to pay down.

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post Dec 5 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(z3171600 @ Dec 5 2011, 09:25 AM)
My current salary is exactly RM3,000 right now (Basic + Fixed Allowance). I wonder if I should ask for rm10 increase in salary from my boss to get above the rm36k requirement. What do you guys think? Or will the banks be lenient and allow me to have 3 CCs?
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Don't recall whether the ruling is on Gross Income or Net Income because don't think it's explicitly mentioned.
But assuming the new Responsible Finance Guideline complements this Credit Card guidelines, then the income bracket will be on Net Income. Assuming that is true, then your increase of RM10 will not qualify you as well.

But back to the topic; there's a reason why the BNM limits the number of cards as well as exposures. So think back - do you really need 3 cards?

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post Dec 7 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Dec 7 2011, 09:19 AM)
I too have more than 2cc CL ranges 6K to 85K. So far only receive the letter from Citibank. At the moment just leave it as it is until they act on it, worse case retain 2 and cancel the rest. No problem.
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That just proves one statement i.e. banks are too desperate for business thus to match competitions, they just gives higher lines for new cards. Main reason as well why so many are in CC debts where they cannot control their spending. shakehead.gif

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