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post Dec 14 2005, 12:22 PM

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So Windows Vista a good news for AMD 64 users since it is 64-bit operating system.. Wonder if the performance will be doubled (everything done in less half the time use to convert videos, mp3.. etc.. in Windows 32-bit)


i thought vista is also available in 32bit flavour? anyway, the recommended spec to run vista 64bit is almost twice as much as the 32bit brother accordin to microsoft representative speech months ago at australia, especially the RAM.
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post Dec 23 2005, 12:19 AM

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my lil screenshot on my test on vista.

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//large screenshot edited by samurai1337

on initial startup, without any 3rd party software installed, PF usage is already 600MB.

i cant play the 3D chess cuz no driver for my display card. nVidia didn't make it with Beta2 driver hence Beta1 driver isn't compatible with Beta2.

Fool around with Solitaire and Minesweeper. they takes up 100% of my CPU resources to play. Seems like everything even simple games need the LDDM to work properly, or else it'll drag your CPU till you die.

Windows Media Player 11 is cool. with now button is centered.

IE7 Beta in Vista is better than the Beta release for XP i got before.

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post Dec 24 2005, 03:16 PM

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samurai:

1) is your vista beta PF usage very high too? i open WMP, IE7, MSN 7.5 + background service and driver all running it reached 1.0+ GB

2) Direct 3D couldn't load correctly, and probably cuz of tat, some animation is lagging. nVidia 75.03 vista driver is not usable in Beta2.

3) how to make a thumbnail like the one u edited for me..LOL

another screenie after LDDM driver is loaded from Vista driver archive, now i can see transparent effect :

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post Dec 25 2005, 08:51 PM

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i'm using build 5231.

PF usage is seriously scary. in XP only playing high end games only page file will exceed 1GB. in vista normal app already 1GB ++ ... wondering will this improve on official release or not.

i managed to install the LDDM driver and now all the effect is running smoothly, unlike previously. just that the LDDM driver also cant provide proper Direct 3D function. Chess cant be played wif details.
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post Dec 29 2005, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(jiant @ Dec 28 2005, 11:05 PM)
will Althon 64 3000+ Venice E6 can run Vista smoothly for now version or even final version?
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QUOTE(pinky @ Dec 29 2005, 12:26 AM)
how about if 1g of KVR ram and 6600GT?
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venice E6 is ok for vista.
one thing i feel is that vista require more ram and graphic power + graphic ram to run it smoother. processor don differ much unless you using dual core proc.

1G is just barely enough for normal multi application.

just... "i feel"
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post Jan 3 2006, 03:19 PM

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the DX10 is still half baked with part of the DX10 is still built from DX9, so there wont be too much difference.

guess they'll launch another version of DX10 later after everything is stable and GC that support DX10 is in mass production. so no need to worry much bout your GC compatibility wif DX10 for the moment.

juz noob. correct me if i'm wrong.
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post Jan 3 2006, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jan 3 2006, 06:41 PM)
Wa, very heavy recomended requirement. Then what is the use of AMD64??

I'm using AMD64.
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the PR mentioned is based on intel.
AMD definitely require much lower clock speed to achieve the similar performance
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post Jan 5 2006, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jan 3 2006, 07:00 PM)
I'm using AMD 64 Athlon 3200+ which is 2.0Ghz. So can it use windows longhorn when it is realeased?
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you can run, but for maximum visual effect and smoothness, upgrade your ram to at least 1GB and upgrade your GC too... that's from my Beta experience


QUOTE(woopypooky @ Jan 5 2006, 03:31 PM)
I heard need a 256 mb gpu to run aero glass function on vista and also min 1Gb ram. Also need a gpu that support at least directx9.0 such as the gefroce 6 series and above. Any amd64 will do.
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256MB is required to run in high resolution mode, eg : > 1600x1200
128MB with DX9 is fine with <1024x768
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post Jan 9 2006, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jan 8 2006, 03:32 PM)
Just installed on my dell d800 ... spec: Centrino 1.3, Ram 640Mb, NVDIA GeForce 4000 32Mb ... Installation was quite long took me around 1 hr ... but after installation vista 5270 could find all my driver ... the performance also ok ... just the 13 more day to activate is my problem ... and walk aroud to fool that ? ....

Final Verdict : Good ...
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according to microsoft, in order to let vista running smooth on lappy, some of the visual features will be turn off by default on Vista shipped with lappy.
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post Jan 10 2006, 01:11 AM

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a very interesting function of vista i read on the official page :
using USB Thumb Drive / USB Flash Memory to be secondary RAM.

not sure anyone posted here b4 or not cuz i didn't thoroughly read through the whole thread. so don't flame me for my noobness
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post Jan 10 2006, 07:17 AM

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External memory devices

Adding system memory (RAM) is often the best way to improve your PC's performance. More memory means more applications are ready to run without accessing the hard drive. However, upgrading memory is not always easy. You must learn what type of memory you need, purchase the memory, and open your computer to install the memory-which sometimes can invalidate your support agreement. Also, some machines have limited memory expansion capabilities, preventing you from adding RAM even if you are willing to do so.

Windows Vista introduces a new concept in adding memory to a system. USB flash drives can be used as External Memory Devices (EMDs) to extend system memory and improve performance without opening the box. Your computer is able to access memory from an EMD device much more quickly than it can access data on the hard drive, boosting system performance. When combined with SuperFetch technology, this can help drive impressive improvement in system responsiveness.

EMD technology is both reliable and secure. You can remove an EMD at any time without any loss of data or negative impact to the system; however, if you remove the EMD, your performance returns to the level you experienced without the device. Wear on the USB drive is not an issue when using it as an EMD. A unique algorithm optimizes wear patterns, so that a USB device can run as an EMD for many years, even when heavily used. Finally, data on the EMD is encrypted to help prevent inappropriate access to data when the device is removed.


source : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/default.aspx
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QUOTE(Akane Soma @ Jan 10 2006, 07:50 AM)
do u guys think opteron might be the minimum requirement to jalan windows vista?
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Athlon 64 already enough. not necessary opteron
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post Jan 11 2006, 06:12 PM

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u r right...i tried it b4...Muz use USB Thumb drive or USB Flash Memory to boot up pc RAM...then i tried to install Card Reader n use memory card to boot up my RAM...but cant...so tis means we muz use USB Thumb drive/USB Flash Memory to boot up RAM...


the 5231 version have this function already or not? if got then i wanna reinstall n check it out. last installation expired after 14days then cannot use already. can't get 5270 cuz beginning from next week go back home holiday no internet access pula.

QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 11 2006, 12:24 PM)
wanna ask..how do you create a dual boot environment? wanna try out vista while i'm still using my windows XP pro
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since i see on your sig you have 4 HDD, you just empty one of them and install Vista on that HDD then boot from that HDD using bios.

another option is to create a new partition and install vista on it but i feel this is more hassle.

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post Jan 28 2007, 02:38 AM

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today saw the pricelist of sri computer in LYP.
there was this "windows vista 32bit/64bit" - RM490...
wat the heck was tat?
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post Feb 15 2007, 12:01 PM

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anyone has this "COM surrogate" error when playing divx files?
weird enough is that the thing crashes but the video plays fine
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Feb 15 2007, 02:52 PM)
i read that vista calculate time before transfering files, a folder of 23 000 file take 20 min to transfers, about 10min was for calculation, way to go MS.
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the file transfer is another frustrating thing. no idea what the hell the OS need to calculate for.

QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 15 2007, 03:06 PM)
currently im planing to buy ori vista now.. anyone can prefer me where to buy? i saw czone selling home premium DVD for rm395 only.. i heard that home premium should selling at rm650+ right? is it that 1 they selling is oem/retail ? or just upgrade only?

if upgrade only, what should i hav in order to upgrade to it? do i need a ori xp pro/mce to upgrade? or just any pirated xp?
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i'll be getting a free original vista from microsoft soon after CNY (most probably business version). interested?


QUOTE(vt928 @ Feb 15 2007, 04:39 PM)
That is what I am really unhappy about, not too sure is that vista's prob or wmp's prob...Dell said a lot of customers complained about that oso.
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it sounds more like a codec incompatible case to me. but weird is that after crashes the movie still play superbly fine. but googling around i read that there are some other 3rd party codec that works flawlessly.



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