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post Jan 11 2012, 10:29 AM

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well, u can choose a safer topic, like what sort of architecture that u like and all. or maybe architectural events that u've been to, like the architectural workshops or PAM students exhibitions.

u dont have to be over-peramah in that sense. just dont let the conversation die down and produce those awkward moments. always have a safe question on standby, where u can fill in those gaps. take control.

for example:

i. UiTM already obtained RIBA. how has it changed the school?
ii. can i specialize when i do my masters?
iii. i like model making. is the facilities for it there?

or stuff like that. just safe questions to fill in the awkward moments.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 11 2012, 10:29 AM)
well, u can choose a safer topic, like what sort of architecture that u like and all. or maybe architectural events that u've been to, like the architectural workshops or PAM students exhibitions.

u dont have to be over-peramah in that sense. just dont let the conversation die down and produce those awkward moments. always have a safe question on standby, where u can fill in those gaps. take control.

for example:

i. UiTM already obtained RIBA. how has it changed the school?
ii. can i specialize when i do my masters?
iii. i like model making. is the facilities for it there?

or stuff like that. just safe questions to fill in the awkward moments.
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thank you very much for the heads up.. will use this biggrin.gif
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post Jan 12 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 10 2012, 09:41 PM)
at the moment, only UM and UiTM is RIBA recognized.

but do note being 'recognized' is different from being 'accredited'.
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oo, mind a stupid question? blush.gif how does it differs??
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post Jan 13 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(mrBuLuKoreK @ Jan 12 2012, 03:46 PM)
oo, mind a stupid question? blush.gif  how does it differs??
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in a nutshell:

accreditation means that the entire course is legally certified by a body to whatever standard that is entirely recognized by law.

recognized simply means that a body acknowledges the existence and standard of a course.




to put it simply, when a school is recognized by a body, it doesnt mean anything much in terms of professional practice, but more of an acknowledgement that it is at par with the rest of the schools that the body recognizes. but accreditation means it's not just at par, but also legally recognized. meaning if a school is accredited by a body, it means that it automatically recognizes the graduates as 'legally fit for practice'.

in malaysian context, RIBA is nothing more than a club. they recognize schools to be equal to the rest of the group. a UiTM or UM graduate still needs to sit for ARB in order to practice in the UK. but at least they already have a head start as they dont have to go convince ARB much now that they are recognized by RIBA.

so why don't ARB go around the world accrediting schools?

because they are bound by their parliament, and effectively, the boundaries of their sovereign country. RIBA, as a 'club', is not limited to such.
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Hi azarimy,

I'd just like to ask...during my semester breaks (usually 1 month) is it possible to find part-time work at an architecture firm? Or would they not be interested in someone who does not have prior experience and is only able to work for one month?

Thanks in advance smile.gif


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QUOTE(jhaozz. @ Jan 9 2012, 02:01 PM)
I'm a SPM leaver. Wish to study architecture , and right now quite confused which pathway to go for.
I am not prefer STPM & matrix.
But Foundation of Arts ( Architecture ) in UTAR seems to be not bad.
I hope to study abroad in future. Admin , is it a good option ?
Alevels in my mind too , but must depending good result in spm to ensure scholarship as is
quite a burden for my family financial too.
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Jhaozz, you'll have to remember that it's Foundation in ARTS and not in architecture though. Unless they changed the syllabus for their architecture/design Arts stream that is.

And um...think very, very carefully before you make this decision. Yep. By the way, UTAR degree scholarship is hard to secure unlike its foundation scholarship.

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post Jan 14 2012, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(sabee @ Jan 14 2012, 02:10 AM)
Hi azarimy,

I'd just like to ask...during my semester breaks (usually 1 month) is it possible to find part-time work at an architecture firm? Or would they not be interested in someone who does not have prior experience and is only able to work for one month?

Thanks in advance  smile.gif


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Jhaozz, you'll have to remember that it's Foundation in ARTS and not in architecture though. Unless they changed the syllabus for their architecture/design Arts stream that is.

And um...think very, very carefully before you make this decision. Yep. By the way, UTAR degree scholarship is hard to secure  unlike its foundation scholarship.
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it is possible. but it'll be hard mainly due to the short working period. it would be easier to find freelance jobs though. companies do look to outsource 3D visualizations, sketches, interior images etc. u could get a piece of that.

in architecture, there is no big difference whether u come in from arts or science tream.
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post Jan 14 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 14 2012, 10:53 AM)
it is possible. but it'll be hard mainly due to the short working period. it would be easier to find freelance jobs though. companies do look to outsource 3D visualizations, sketches, interior images etc. u could get a piece of that.

in architecture, there is no big difference whether u come in from arts or science tream.
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Azarimy,

Whoa I guess I'll have to work hard on those before I try hunting for those then. Haha. Thanks!

Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to the difference between arts and science...was more towards F. Arts in UTAR being a general foundation, as opposed to Foundation in Architecture offered in other universities. So you don't get to learn the basics (as in architectural drawing, modelling, etc).

They're taught in the first sem of degree, kinda...like, verbatim in 3-20 minute-spurts. Everyone crowds around a single drafting table most times when it comes to hands-on demonstrations by tutors, so if you're short and you're not in front you're kinda out of luck. I admit I'm far from the brightest, and I have difficulty catching and understanding what they say. Oh and they don't really worry about how you do it, whether the method is right or wrong (the lecturers/tutors I got so far at least; maybe there are others who are different) - it's the end result that matters.

Gonna read up and practice more and hopefully someday I'll be able to grasp this @.@;;
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post Jan 14 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(sabee @ Jan 14 2012, 03:07 AM)
Azarimy,

Whoa I guess I'll have to work hard on those before I try hunting for those then. Haha. Thanks!

Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to the difference between arts and science...was more towards F. Arts in UTAR being a general foundation, as opposed to Foundation in Architecture offered in other universities. So you don't get to learn the basics (as in architectural drawing, modelling, etc).

They're taught in the first sem of degree, kinda...like, verbatim in 3-20 minute-spurts. Everyone crowds around a single drafting table most times when it comes to hands-on demonstrations by tutors, so if you're short and you're not in front you're kinda out of luck. I admit I'm far from the brightest, and I have difficulty catching and understanding what they say. Oh and they don't really worry about how you do it, whether the method is right or wrong (the lecturers/tutors I got so far at least; maybe there are others who are different) - it's the end result that matters.

Gonna read up and practice more and hopefully someday I'll be able to grasp this @.@;;
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it doesnt really make a difference. foundation in arts would still teach the same things in foundation of architecture, design or built environment. yes, they may emphasis on one than the other, but it's no more than a subject or two. it's when it gets into 1st year that it starts to differ from school to school.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 14 2012, 10:18 PM)
it doesnt really make a difference. foundation in arts would still teach the same things in foundation of architecture, design or built environment. yes, they may emphasis on one than the other, but it's no more than a subject or two. it's when it gets into 1st year that it starts to differ from school to school.
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Sorry, but I beg to differ a little. In (UTAR's) Foundation in Arts we have only one design subject per trimester; the other 4 cater to other disciplines in arts like marketing, management etc. And english. The design subject itself caters to graphic design, multimedia and architecture students, so you won't find any specific focus on architecture. There are still things that are related to it of course, like perspective drawing, colours, composition etc. No scale rulers or technical drawing yet! You can always apply the knowledge gained to architecture though. In fact I learned a lot about drawing in general there, and it was very fun despite struggling with new media, topics and the like. Hehe.

On the other hand my friends from UCSI's and Taylor's Foundations in Architecture get the best of both worlds, so to speak. They get to dabble in the basics of architecture AND practise drawing. They still have english subjects, MQA subjects etc, but all in all they have one year's worth of extra experience over those from Foundation in Arts (and maybe every other pre-u too? Not too sure).

What some of them did was take Foundation in Architecture elsewhere, then continue their degree at UTAR. UCSI's and Taylor's can be carried over without a hitch apparently; I'm not too sure about LKW, but should be no problem also. Gotta refer to the authorities to be sure.

Regardless of the type of foundation, there's still drawing, and one of the assignments in UTAR requires you to draw and colour a building, A2 size, so you get some exposure anyway. Happy happy biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(sabee @ Jan 15 2012, 03:24 AM)
Sorry, but I beg to differ a little. In (UTAR's) Foundation in Arts we have only one design subject per trimester; the other 4 cater to other disciplines in arts like marketing, management etc. And english. The design subject itself caters to graphic design, multimedia and architecture students, so you won't find any specific focus on architecture. There are still things that are related to it of course, like perspective drawing, colours, composition etc. No scale rulers or technical drawing yet! You can always apply the knowledge gained to architecture though. In fact I learned a lot about drawing in general there, and it was very fun despite struggling with new media, topics and the like. Hehe.

On the other hand my friends from UCSI's and Taylor's Foundations in Architecture get the best of both worlds, so to speak. They get to dabble in the basics of architecture AND practise drawing. They still have english subjects, MQA subjects etc, but all in all they have one year's worth of extra experience over those from Foundation in Arts (and maybe every other pre-u too? Not too sure).

What some of them did was take Foundation in Architecture elsewhere, then continue their degree at UTAR. UCSI's and Taylor's can be carried over without a hitch apparently; I'm not too sure about LKW, but should be no problem also. Gotta refer to the authorities to be sure.

Regardless of the type of foundation, there's still drawing, and one of the assignments in UTAR requires you to draw and colour a building, A2 size, so you get some exposure anyway. Happy happy  biggrin.gif
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trust me, it doesnt matter wink.gif. at the end of the day, it's what u've acquired at the end of ur studies, not the beginning.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 15 2012, 04:42 PM)
trust me, it doesnt matter wink.gif. at the end of the day, it's what u've acquired at the end of ur studies, not the beginning.
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Hehe thanks for the word of advice! biggrin.gif I'll try my best!
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hey guys. am new in this thread. Am currently studying for my diploma in Equator Academy of Arts and am gonna further my studies in Australia for my degree mid year. Possibly the closest intake to my diploma graduation which would be in April 2011. Any recommendation in Universities? Am having Curtin and Tasmania in mind. Tasmania is offering an international scholarship for a 25% rebate of yearly tuition fees if am not mistaken. Any comments???
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QUOTE(kenn91 @ Jan 15 2012, 06:02 PM)
hey guys. am new in this thread. Am currently studying for my diploma in Equator Academy of Arts and am gonna further my studies in Australia for my degree mid year. Possibly the closest intake to my diploma graduation which would be in April 2011. Any recommendation in Universities? Am having Curtin and Tasmania in mind. Tasmania is offering an international scholarship for a 25% rebate of yearly tuition fees if am not mistaken. Any comments???
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tasmania's seems like a good place to study got a few friends studying there, if you are able to live in a place with nothing much to do and just concentrating on studies, it should be a fine fine place for you.
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QUOTE(kenn91 @ Jan 15 2012, 06:02 PM)
hey guys. am new in this thread. Am currently studying for my diploma in Equator Academy of Arts and am gonna further my studies in Australia for my degree mid year. Possibly the closest intake to my diploma graduation which would be in April 2011. Any recommendation in Universities? Am having Curtin and Tasmania in mind. Tasmania is offering an international scholarship for a 25% rebate of yearly tuition fees if am not mistaken. Any comments???
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I'm currently at Tasmania smile.gif
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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Jan 19 2012, 07:47 AM)
I'm currently at Tasmania smile.gif
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then you must know ann gie and clifford
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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Jan 19 2012, 07:47 AM)
I'm currently at Tasmania smile.gif
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hello , jus wan to know how many student in a class at Tasmania?
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where do architecture students get their materials? Drawing board and such, where's the cheapest place to shop? in Klang valley. preferably in PJ area?
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Im pleased to announce that our team is currently developing UBBL in iOS app. Hopefully finished by February 2012. if u are around shah alam by the end of this month, come to UiTM archi review to check our final projects and to test my app.

Eventhough Im an archi student, (Im graduating, yeay!) Im really appreciated to have the opportunity to dev an app. Thanks to MDeC and MSC Malaysia.

If anybody of you interested, there is another round of pitching session but for android platform. deadline by 27 Jan 2012.

check it here.

http://tinyurl.com/icon2register
http://tinyurl.com/icon2faq


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QUOTE(dianonaid @ Jan 21 2012, 12:42 AM)
where do architecture students get their materials? Drawing board and such, where's the cheapest place to shop? in Klang valley. preferably in PJ area?
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there is an art shop called Win's Art at Kelana Jaya near LimKokWing. though, last time I went there is 4 years ago

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QUOTE(kazasho @ Jan 21 2012, 03:43 AM)
Im pleased to announce that our team is currently developing UBBL in iOS app. Hopefully finished by February 2012. if u are around shah alam by the end of this month, come to UiTM archi review to check our final projects and to test my app.

Eventhough Im an archi student, (Im graduating, yeay!) Im really appreciated to have the opportunity to dev an app. Thanks to MDeC and MSC Malaysia.

If anybody of you interested, there is another round of pitching session but for android platform. deadline by 27 Jan 2012.

check it here.

http://tinyurl.com/icon2register
http://tinyurl.com/icon2faq


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there is an art shop called Win's Art at Kelana Jaya near LimKokWing. though, last time I went there is 4 years ago
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an app for UBBL should be awesome tool.
since you are from uitm, when will the result for master's degree intake to come out?
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QUOTE(kazasho @ Jan 21 2012, 03:43 AM)
Im pleased to announce that our team is currently developing UBBL in iOS app. Hopefully finished by February 2012. if u are around shah alam by the end of this month, come to UiTM archi review to check our final projects and to test my app.

Eventhough Im an archi student, (Im graduating, yeay!) Im really appreciated to have the opportunity to dev an app. Thanks to MDeC and MSC Malaysia.

If anybody of you interested, there is another round of pitching session but for android platform. deadline by 27 Jan 2012.

check it here.

http://tinyurl.com/icon2register
http://tinyurl.com/icon2faq


Added on January 21, 2012, 3:45 am

there is an art shop called Win's Art at Kelana Jaya near LimKokWing. though, last time I went there is 4 years ago
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Win's Art was closed few year back during my time.

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