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TSGabantarung
post Mar 12 2011, 12:46 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a used car so i went to look for this car, a 1996 Mazda Lantis 1.6M. After half an hour inspecting the car, i found few issues that I am not sure whether it is a bad problem, or reaally bad problem.

- The car produces white smoke whenever I push the throttle. Might indicate leaking in the engine.
- Power window got stuck on the passenger side, but can work if using the passenger side's button. (common Lantis problem)
- Mileage meter says 150K, but there is service check sticker that says 'Last service : 300XXX'.
- Tyre rim got scratches all over the side of it, on both right side tyres.
- Road tax will expire in a month. Might indicate the dealer is trying to push the sale, despite the car condition.

1)Is this a big problem? Is it cost a lot to fix all of this? And most important, should i even think to buy this car?

2)And how can i do VIN check on this car? I dont have Credit Card so I wont be able to check online on Redbook or whatever.

3)Is there a service where I can ask a mechanic to check the car, give valuation on the car condition and also give valuation on the price based on the car condition?

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post Mar 12 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Gabantarung @ Mar 12 2011, 12:46 PM)
Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a used car so i went to look for this car, a 1996 Mazda Lantis 1.6M. After half an hour inspecting the car, i found few issues that I am not sure whether it is a bad problem, or reaally bad problem.

- The car produces white smoke whenever I push the throttle. Might indicate leaking in the engine.
- Power window got stuck on the passenger side, but can work if using the passenger side's button. (common Lantis problem)
- Mileage meter says 150K, but there is service check sticker that says 'Last service : 300XXX'.
- Tyre rim got scratches all over the side of it, on both right side tyres.
- Road tax will expire in a month. Might indicate the dealer is trying to push the sale, despite the car condition.

1)Is this a big problem? Is it cost a lot to fix all of this? And most important, should i even think to buy this car?

2)And how can i do VIN check on this car? I dont have Credit Card so I wont be able to check online on Redbook or whatever.

3)Is there a service where I can ask a mechanic to check the car, give valuation on the car condition and also give valuation on the price based on the car condition?
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i wouldnt recommend you to buy that car, its just not worth to buy it.
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post Mar 12 2011, 05:28 PM

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how much is the price?
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post Mar 12 2011, 05:54 PM

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the price tag will show its worth it or not..
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post Mar 12 2011, 06:06 PM

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Please please please don't ever buy Mazda Lantis. Sure the looks is sporty and rimless door mirrors. But there is always a common problem after they aged. Rubber sealing will let water in. Plastic parts will come out just like the old Saga. And the engine is hard to get parts. If u haven't seen how many lantis got transplanted with different ford/ mazda engines, u wouldn't know.
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post Mar 12 2011, 06:53 PM

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I'd say avoid this car by all means. Unless the price offered by the dealer is way below market price and you're willing to spend a lot of time sending the car for repairs. Perhaps the white smoke mean that its time for a full overhaul , easily 2-3k i guess. And about the mileage, probably it has been tempered by the dealer ( also shows that the dealer isnt honest ). Also , take note that Mazda Lantis parts are getting more scarce unless you know where to source your parts. Parts also isnt exactly cheap. Go survey around for better condition ones, im very sure you can find them.
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post Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM

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the most common lantis prob ive heard is wit the rubber door seals.. the lantis has frameless doors (which gives the car a very distinguished character coz not many cars in its class during its time has it), hence the prob.. as wit age, the rubber seals starts 2 worn out n therefore water starts leakin in.. also, had a go in a fren of mine's, n at highway speeds, theres a faint but significant wooshing noise comin from these worn out door seals.. kinda like the noise u get when theres a tiny gap at ur windows when u 4get 2 close em when u start drivin.. i know its a faint sound, but it does get really really annoying after a while..
TSGabantarung
post Mar 12 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Mar 12 2011, 05:28 PM)
how much is the price?
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they were asking for RM14700 (though in mudah.my stated 16K+). Normally this type of car's market price is around 15 to 18K.
I am 70% sure that I'm not going for this car.. unless anybody says it's worth to buy based on the given price.

I know some people wouldn't recommend this car to anyone, but is there anyone who actually own a Lantis who would not recommend this car for me?
I'd say for most Lantis users I heard they haven't got complaints, except they had to spend little bit extra for spareparts and stuff.
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u could consult the lantis club.. i know it existed (my fren is a member), im juz not sure whether they have a website or a forum..
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post Mar 12 2011, 09:08 PM

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hi bro...for that price...1.6 is not so worth it...try to push for 12 if can...parts not hard bro...watver ppl say... i aso had a 1.6 lantis..now going for v6..

its jus tat u must rajin abit to find half cut...but lots of parts still around...but if white smoke better leave it bro...got alot more lantis in the market...but 1.6 stick wot 13-15 for a good 1...but if u can afford it...go for 1.8 manual..got 1 for sale in johor..check mudah...black..

as for windows its usual problem for us...but got alot of custom bushes around and DIY solutions...

good luck bro....if dealer 100% meter tampered....
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post Mar 12 2011, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Gabantarung @ Mar 12 2011, 12:46 PM)
Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a used car so i went to look for this car, a 1996 Mazda Lantis 1.6M. After half an hour inspecting the car, i found few issues that I am not sure whether it is a bad problem, or reaally bad problem.

- The car produces white smoke whenever I push the throttle. Might indicate leaking in the engine.
- Power window got stuck on the passenger side, but can work if using the passenger side's button. (common Lantis problem)
- Mileage meter says 150K, but there is service check sticker that says 'Last service : 300XXX'.
- Tyre rim got scratches all over the side of it, on both right side tyres.
- Road tax will expire in a month. Might indicate the dealer is trying to push the sale, despite the car condition.

1)Is this a big problem? Is it cost a lot to fix all of this? And most important, should i even think to buy this car?

2)And how can i do VIN check on this car? I dont have Credit Card so I wont be able to check online on Redbook or whatever.

3)Is there a service where I can ask a mechanic to check the car, give valuation on the car condition and also give valuation on the price based on the car condition?
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wow lately noticed many thread regarding lantis. also more and more on the road. this car gaining back popularity now? well, can't help to say something since i also drive this car.

first thing first, for a 1996 model, u can push the price lower than 14k. afterall u already noticed much of its problems. use this as ur bargaining points

- white smoke when pushed, most likely piston ring worn out. total overhaul is the answer. but transplant is the better route imo. u have a 14 yr old car in front of u, even if u dont see white smoke now, how sure are u that it wont come soon? not only for this car, any car for that matter. buy this car if u already have a plan for transplant. 2.0 v6 worth every penny. the sound, the power, the fc, digital aircond.... just make sure the body is perfectly straight, no rust, all rubbers are good, etc..

- power window, common problem yes. unrepairable, no. spare some 300 bucks, i know someone who can get it back to perfect working condition.

- mileage definitely been tempered with. find another dealer if u doubt he might not be honest about everything else

- scratches on rims, no big deal. but it might indicate previous driver was a lousy one

- road text going to expire, ask for more discount!
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:36 AM

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bro...a word of advice...if u can afford the higher roadtax, go for the 1.8... much better den the 1.6 in terms of fc... 1.6 auto abit laggy sumtimes...but if manual den not too bad
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post Mar 15 2011, 03:33 AM

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agreed with icyd and shalz. i am a lantis owner too. dont listen to non lantis user, most of them bs tbh, no offence wink.gif

if got white smoke then better dont buy, get another one. mudah alot.
windows problem can be fixed, i know few guys can provide this service, like what icyd said.

PS: parts is easy to get. easy yes easy. new 2nd halfcut all no problem.
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post Mar 16 2011, 11:05 AM

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have u got the ride TS?
TSGabantarung
post Mar 17 2011, 06:03 PM

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still looking for Lantis 1.8MT. if anyone sees PM me! smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 06:11 PM

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white smoke...engine need overhaul
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post Mar 17 2011, 09:34 PM

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bro..found a few 1.8 auto and manual while i was searching for my JDM V6. pm me if u want more details...wud love to help out another lantis lover
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post Mar 18 2011, 03:55 AM

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go to mudah, there is plenty of them, and cheap too!
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post Mar 18 2011, 10:18 AM

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went to mudah all the time. but to find Manual 1.8 quite abit hard lor. Got one la but in Penang.

shalzkasbsp, where did u find that car.
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I have driven MAzda Familia 1985 and Ford TX3 for 4 years....

My only complaint is the 1.8MT gearbox which is almost extinct in Malaysia. And it is a popular gearbox for the BPT and BPD (1.8 turbo engines).

Besides that, it is a good robust car.

join the killerbees group for more info.

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post Mar 19 2011, 10:29 AM

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dont get 1.8 manual. very hard to find a replacement gearbox and driveshaft if your current one fail.

1.8 manual gearbox is very rare.

1.8 auto should be fine smile.gif
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post Mar 19 2011, 02:14 PM

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uh-oh. i prefer manual rather than auto.

really ah gearbox hard to get. whatabout 1.6M gearbox? hard to get oso?
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post Mar 19 2011, 03:13 PM

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1.6 auto/manual and 1.8 auto is much easier to get.

1.8 manual is rare because those turbo guys match the gearbox with b8t engine to become 2wd instead of 4wd.
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mostly 1.8 now auto ny bro...best get a cheap 1.8 auto...use abit den wen gearbox kong get a halfcut or go to murali to buy...he has a few wen ppl go there change to KF and KL engine
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post Mar 28 2011, 04:27 PM

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http://forum.killerbees.com.my/index.php?topic=13300.0

found it bro..its cheap

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post Mar 30 2011, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(alliedview @ Mar 28 2011, 04:27 PM)
thanks man for the link. I think it's the same one listed in mudah.my http://www.mudah.my/Mazda+Lantis+hatchback...AJE-8950269.htm few weeks ago. Will check it out soon. Thanks dude.
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post Mar 30 2011, 03:06 PM

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i selling my lantis come with 1.8 manual big sub with BPT engine (B8 180)...http://forum.killerbees.com.my/index.php?topic=13047.0


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QUOTE(ongdennis @ Mar 30 2011, 04:06 PM)
i selling my lantis come with 1.8 manual big sub with BPT engine (B8 180)...http://forum.killerbees.com.my/index.php?topic=13047.0
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bro is this yours?
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Cool man...

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post Mar 30 2011, 03:41 PM

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so much powerrrrrrrrr... lol...nice ride bro

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post Aug 8 2011, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(shalzkasbsp @ Mar 19 2011, 10:45 PM)
mostly 1.8 now auto ny bro...best get a cheap 1.8 auto...use abit den wen gearbox kong get a halfcut or go to murali to buy...he has a few wen ppl go there change to KF and KL engine
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is the 1.8 auto better compare to 1.6 manual in terms of fc? how about the performance?
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i driven the 1.8m before in australia
its quite powerful and handling is quite good
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few links for u :
http://www.mudah.my/Mazda+Lantis+1+8+Auto-10963572.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Mazda+Lantis+1+8+auto-10904355.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Mazda+Lantis+HB+1+8+Au...96-10251175.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Mazda+Lantis+1+8+M+TURBO+B8-10520659.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Mazda+Lantis+1+8+manua...6171.htm?last=1
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post Aug 9 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(xizel @ Aug 8 2011, 02:34 AM)
is the 1.8 auto better compare to 1.6 manual in terms of fc? how about the performance?
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havent driven a 1.8 auto before but i heard for a 1.8 its not too bad...it matches the 1.6 fc ( which is quite bad esp the auto due to being under power)


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i also plan to buy mazda lantis.. im in love with the design.. tongue.gif ..sporty look..but also want to hear any feedback from any1 that own a lantis.. want to know how is the fuel consumption?.. how about maintenance?.. spare parts is it easily to get nowadays?.... hope to get feedback..
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hi mate...maintenance is pretty average..wudnt say cheap like proton..wudnt say so expensive like bmw or mercedes..many ppl like to shoot that mazda parts very exp..tats because mostly they drive proton..how to compare price liddat... parts quite affordable..still in abudance as many common parts shared with Ford and Kia

fuel consumption depends how u take care of the car and your right foot..but if u take the 1.6 auto it is slightly heavy on fuel due to underpower

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QUOTE(shalzkasbsp @ Aug 15 2011, 11:21 AM)
hi mate...maintenance is pretty average..wudnt say cheap like proton..wudnt say so expensive like bmw or mercedes..many ppl like to shoot that mazda parts very exp..tats because mostly they drive proton..how to compare price liddat... parts quite affordable..still in abudance as many common parts shared with Ford and Kia

fuel consumption depends how u take care of the car and your right foot..but if u take the 1.6 auto it is slightly heavy on fuel due to underpower
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okie.. thnx for the feedback.. smile.gif .. it is because my cousin drive a proton.. saying that the maintenance for lantis very costly.. smile.gif.. but i prefer to hear from ppl that owned it and experienced it.. bye the way thanx.. how about the 1.6 manual or 1.8 compare with 1.6 auto, in terms of FC??.. any different?


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post Aug 16 2011, 11:56 AM

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1.6 manual is quite okay..road tax aso murah... manual car always better consumption. but 1.8 manual is abit hard to get spare. as many guys use the lantis 1.8 gb for their BPT engine conversion. ( its turbo engine tats famous among ford lynx and mazda familia/lantis sedan owners)..

its much better off getting the 1.6 manual or 1.8 auto..

for conversion to 2.0 v6..itu terpulang kepada kedai..sum mahal..sum cheap..very subjective..

happy motoring...

PS : all the lantis owners very nice ppl.. LOL
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post Dec 27 2012, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(alcatrez @ Mar 18 2011, 10:48 AM)
I have driven MAzda Familia 1985 and Ford TX3 for 4 years....

My only complaint is the 1.8MT gearbox which is almost extinct in Malaysia. And it is a popular gearbox for the BPT and BPD (1.8 turbo engines).

Besides that, it is a good robust car.

join the killerbees group for more info.

I was a killerbee group member once
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hi i am planning to buy a lantis 1.8. i test drove and found its very comfortable and engine is powerful. so tell me guys is this worth it to buy.


Added on December 27, 2012, 3:42 amHi guys i am crazy and really wanna buy a Mazda Lantis. Any comments about the lantis 1.8 auto pls let me know cuz this is my first time using the lantis n very little knowledge abt it.


Added on December 27, 2012, 3:47 am
QUOTE(icyd @ Mar 12 2011, 11:07 PM)
wow lately noticed many thread regarding lantis. also more and more on the road. this car gaining back popularity now? well, can't help to say something since i also drive this car.

first thing first, for a 1996 model, u can push the price lower than 14k. afterall u already noticed much of its problems. use this as ur bargaining points

- white smoke when pushed, most likely piston ring worn out. total overhaul is the answer. but transplant is the better route imo. u have a 14 yr old car in front of u, even if u dont see white smoke now, how sure are u that it wont come soon? not only for this car, any car for that matter. buy this car if u already have a plan for transplant. 2.0 v6 worth every penny. the sound, the power, the fc, digital aircond.... just make sure the body is perfectly straight, no rust, all rubbers are good, etc..

- power window, common problem yes. unrepairable, no. spare some 300 bucks, i know someone who can get it back to perfect working condition.

- mileage definitely been tempered with. find another dealer if u doubt he might not be honest about everything else

- scratches on rims, no big deal. but it might indicate previous driver was a lousy one

- road text going to expire, ask for more discount!
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Hi everyone i am planning to buy a mazda lantis 1.8 auto. drove it and felt so powerful. its my first car so someone pls tell me about this car.i really love the shape and the power of the 1.8 auto. is this car hard to get spare parts?


Added on December 27, 2012, 3:49 amI wanna buy the lantis 1.8 auto. anyone got any comments about this car pls let me know cuz i really love the power but its my first car.


Added on December 27, 2012, 4:07 ami wanna buy a mazda lantis 1.8 auto. wat u guys think about it. its my first car to buy n i really love the shape. tested driving it and so powerful. guys any comments pls tell me ya

This post has been edited by imranramadhan: Dec 27 2012, 04:07 AM
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post Dec 27 2012, 06:05 PM

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Hi mate,

Welcome to the club... head to http://www.facebook.com/groups/my323f/
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lantis huh? road tax and insurance how much?

 

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