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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Apr 1 2011, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 1 2011, 06:16 PM)
anfieldude,

Need your help to clarify. Suppose I set True Cinema & Normal with the same settings (the settings available in the Menu), will the PQ be the same ?

From what I gather from reading this, even with the same menu settings, the PQ will be different as the settings (not available to the lay-person) have been pre-set at the factory and they are different. Right ?

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They will be different.

There is some hardcoding of white balance/gamma and colour settings done for each setting.

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM)
vincent,

The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours.

The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve.

Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K

BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a  lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50.

There is reference and there is preference.

My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like.
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absolutely agree with AD .i love true cinema mode the most whenever i watch hollywood movies and just set ithe contrast higher if one prefer more 'color pop' effect .
cinema mode is brighter by default and for all types of source and feed ,it is most suitable as i believe it is a all rounder

i have so often played with the modes and setting and getting really tired and finally settled for true cinema mode . gamma at 2.2 is appropriate during day watching and gamma at 2.4 really nice on controlled lighting although you will lose shadow detail but black levels is more impressive . hope panny will one day come out with more options such as with 2.3 and 2.35 gamma.

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post Apr 2 2011, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM)
vincent,

The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours.

The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve.

Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K

BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a  lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50.

There is reference and there is preference.

My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like.
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i like this statement. thumbup.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2011, 05:52 PM

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Finally, the new product launching

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Held in the Grand Ballroom of the Genting International Convention Centre yesterday, Panasonic unveiled the expanded range of its VIERA Plasma, LED and LCD TVs for 2011 at the Panasonic Sales Convention 2011. In total, Panasonic launched 16 TVs, nine new Plasma models ranging from 42- to 64-inches, four LED LCD models and three LCD models with varying sizes from 32- to 42-inches.


http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/news/view.php?id=18771&cid=5
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post Apr 2 2011, 06:19 PM

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More interesting are the RRP for 2011 series:

3D Plasma
P65VT30K To be confirmed
P50VT30K To be confirmed
P55ST30K To be confirmed
P50ST30k To be confirmed
P42UT30K To be confirmed

2D Plasma
P50U30K RM4,499
P50X30K RM3,799
P42U30K RM2,299
P42X30K RM1,999

No Plasma S or G series (2D)??

3D LED/LCD
L37DT30K To be confirmed

2D LED/LCD
L42E30K (LED) To be confirmed
L42E3K (LED) RM3,099
L42U30K RM2,199
L32X30K (LED) RM1,999
L32C30K RM1,299
L32C3K RM1,199
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sorry, which one is the equivalent or a step-up model for the famous V20 series?
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post Apr 2 2011, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 2 2011, 06:19 PM)
More interesting are the RRP for 2011 series:

3D Plasma
P65VT30K        To be confirmed
P50VT30K        To be confirmed
P55ST30K        To be confirmed
P50ST30k        To be confirmed
P42UT30K        To be confirmed

2D Plasma
P50U30K            RM4,499
P50X30K            RM3,799
P42U30K            RM2,299
P42X30K            RM1,999

No Plasma S or G series (2D)??

3D LED/LCD
L37DT30K        To be confirmed

2D LED/LCD
L42E30K (LED)          To be confirmed
L42E3K (LED)            RM3,099
L42U30K                  RM2,199
L32X30K (LED)          RM1,999
L32C30K                  RM1,299
L32C3K                    RM1,199
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Wow... if this is the finalized list, then there is a problem.

No G and GT series. So no equivalent V series. Good thing is the RRP is pretty decent to start with. Street prices will be close to last years end of the year pricing in 2-3months.
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so, between the U n X model which one is a better spec then the current V spec?

edited..found out here : http://motorsportchannel.com/web/2011/0331/1262.html
tks..

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very dissapointed there are no 55" for the VT30 series and the GT30 totally dissapear. WTH panasonic malaysia

their marketing strategies sux big time as they either go for high profit margin VT30 series or look down on us malaysian by giving us low end ST30 series
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there's a clearance sale for the outgoing V series at this weekend's Perfect Living at PWTC. The 50in VT20 is going for RM6699 with 2 3d glasses, 3d bluray player and 3x 3d bluray movies. For lower end series the 50U30k is going for RM3999.
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 3 2011, 04:32 AM)
there's a clearance sale for the outgoing V series at this weekend's Perfect Living at PWTC. The 50in VT20 is going for RM6699 with 2 3d glasses, 3d bluray player and 3x 3d bluray movies. For lower end series the 50U30k is going for RM3999.
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Might as well buy from outside shops then. The 50VT is now selling for RM6.5k and the 50U is selling for RM3.5k.
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Apr 2 2011, 07:10 PM)
very dissapointed there are no 55" for the VT30 series and the GT30 totally dissapear. WTH panasonic malaysia

their marketing strategies sux big time as they either go for high profit margin VT30 series or look down on us malaysian by giving us low end ST30 series
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I believe its an Asian wide strategy and not only Panasonic Malaysia.
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really? where to get at those prices?
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 3 2011, 09:04 AM)
Might as well buy from outside shops then. The 50VT is now selling for RM6.5k and the 50U is selling for RM3.5k.
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Your 50U is 20K (2010 version) and not 30K.

Edit: It seems like Panny Malaysia is pushing the entry level 2D and 3D. This probably reflects on the HD content maturity in Asia at the moment.

Well, as long as the price is still fair and in line with entry level, there's not much to dwell on.

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no more highend 2D plasma eh? lucky I got my V before stock runs out.

but could it be that 3D plasma price has gotten so low that it doesnt make sense to sell highend 2D plasma which price is only slightly less than its 3D equivalent?
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Perfect Living at PWTC selling the new PANA LED L42E3k for Rm2799
but it is lower spec than previous L42D25, dunno when the higher spec L42E30K 120HZ LED launch in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM)
vincent,

The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours.

The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve.

Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K

BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a  lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50.

There is reference and there is preference.

My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like.
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According to the selection there is only cinema, thx, game, photo, dynamic, normal... what is trucinema?
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 3 2011, 10:45 AM)
Your 50U is 20K (2010 version) and not 30K.

Edit: It seems like Panny Malaysia is pushing the entry level 2D and 3D. This probably reflects on the HD content maturity in Asia at the moment.

Well, as long as the price is still fair and in line with entry level, there's not much to dwell on.
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Yea it's 50U20K, coz DannyOp is referring to the older range mah.


Added on April 4, 2011, 9:39 am
QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 3 2011, 10:22 AM)
really? where to get at those prices?
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Go to those Panasonic authorized dealers. I found two in Klang and another one in Cheras that offered me those prices.

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post Apr 4 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 4 2011, 03:04 AM)
According to the selection there is only cinema, thx, game, photo, dynamic, normal... what is trucinema?
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I don't hv the VT20 manual at the moment, the V20 has a true cinema mode. For the VT it might be replaced by THX mode.
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 4 2011, 09:36 AM)
Yea it's 50U20K, coz DannyOp is referring to the older range mah.
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Small matter but re-read DannyOp's post and you will see he specifically said 50U30K for RM3,999.

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