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hyzam1212
post Oct 25 2011, 10:21 AM

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You will feel underpaid if your younger sibling who has a same profession but in a different field with much less experience get paid more than you ie construction vs OnG
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post Oct 25 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Oct 25 2011, 10:24 AM)
@hyzam1212
In then end, you made your own bed so you gotta sleep in it. Whats there to feel underpaid? Each person is free to choose their own path in life.
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Yes, u r very right kelvin...but seeing how easy they can get a high-paid job without any fuss makes you feel it even more when you have family to support. Seeing other get more especially in your family with no commitment makes you think twice what the use of the experiences, fresh grad already can get more than us who has more than 5 years exp, how not to feel underpaid then?...In other hand its a very good motivation to improve own life though...
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post Oct 25 2011, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pos86 @ Oct 25 2011, 11:28 AM)
@hyzam1212,

I think its very simple and it all boils down to 2 facts:

1. Your contribution towards the company's bottom isn't significant
2. Your company has little appreciation towards human capital and is all about seniority.

Either way, if you think you're underpaid, you may present a case to your superiors and if they think the case is genuine, they will do something about it. But never stop building up your resume and keep improving your talent base and contacts.
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Your last sentence is the best one, no doubt...

QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Oct 25 2011, 11:32 AM)
@hyzam1212
Sorry, but in my opinion, its a bit of a butthurt situation for you. Why didn't you aim higher from the start? What have you done to deserve higher? No doubt OnG industry pays well but it isn't the only industry that pays well.

Why didnt you join an industry that pays well? Do you deserve the high pay? Plenty of questions one can ask you smile.gif

If a fresh grad can beat your earnings when you have worked for 5 years, in my opinion (take no offense, but this is what I think):
a) The fresh grad is working overseas and earns more than you after conversion
b) The fresh grad graduated from Oxford, Harvard etc and got employed by the McKinsey, Boston Consulting, etc
c) You suck at your job which is why you are paid low and a fresh grad at OnG which starts off at a high basic got much higher than you
d) You chose interest over money (interest here referring to certain industries such as creative design, NGO's, etc)
e) You don't have a degree and you're being bullied at the moment.
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Correct, I agree with you...too much question to ask but none of your options fit the bill, unfortunately laugh.gif but well think there...actually I'm an engineer working in semi-gov construction industry, semi gov pay is good and very standard ala gomen pay if we compare within the industry with the benefits etc but when comparing the basic in GLC OnG company with less experience its a lot more plus benefits...Is it too far to compare nowadays between these fields with the same profession? My career progress is quite substantial in terms of pay when changing jobs and it can be consider as a good career move when comparing to the market of the same field whereas I can be consider good with what I'm doing. Maybe construction industry is not on par with OnG especially...I'm trying to aim high before taking the huge leap forward and may need some time but no doubt your guys opinions are really encouraging thumbup.gif
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post Nov 2 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Nov 1 2011, 09:36 PM)
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Dependant on how someone's lifestyle is, RM5k is barely enough to enjoy semi-luxurious lifestyle (in Selangor / Penang / KL) with the following assumptions:
a) You have ageing parents
b) You have study loan to pay off
c) You have kid(s)

The RM5k would probably be just enough for you to get by every month with you making lots of sacrifices with regards to necessities vs desires
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That's very true indeed...RM5k is nothing nowadays...pay is relative to commitments...commitments will surely increase when your family increase...ya I would think semi-luxurious is a good reference meaning that (necessities + desires) divide by two, at the end only necessities are important...dont know why the stu*** politicians think 3k is a high income
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post Nov 2 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(justin_nys @ Nov 2 2011, 09:37 AM)
Agree with kelvin_tan and hyzam1212. 5k is definitely not a lot even for a young family....besides the usual car and house loans, you have the additional diapers, milk powders, life insurance for breadwinner, saving education fund for kids etc.....if you're single without gf (or low maintenance gf), then earning 5k will be sufficient and you can have a semi luxury life if you don't save much smile.gif

hyzam1212, these cronies's base pay maybe 3K, but "allowances" and "side income" are 10k? LOL....
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Yes justin, you are absolutely 100% correct...if you have 5k but no savings also no point

Yes, the politician thingy...I'm well versed with that sweat.gif
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post Nov 9 2011, 09:14 AM

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Should have a lot of experiences or converting salary from USD to have that sort of figure

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