If a fresh graduate with degree holder n work in klang valley, then shouldnt get below 2k... unless ur skills very poor..

i have a case study for ur evaluation:

post: procurement exec.
field: oil & gas (downstream)
experience: 3 yrs.
salary: RM 4500/mth + contractual bonus 2 mths. (14 mths salary/yr)
allowance: RM 200

how do u rate this salary?

a. underpaid?
b. market rate?
c. overpaid?

ur opinions r much appreciated.

Market rate or maybe even above average.

From years of experience & position, definitely is over paid. But sometime also depends on your job load & responsibilities.

Company may paid you higher salary, but require you to do 1.5 or 2 people work then you require to OT everyday & even work during weekend.
Just like some bank, they offer very attractive paid & huge bonuses. But your job are so stress & never ever finish.

All about give and take.

thanks cybermaster98 for ur input.

really appreciate it.

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Added on June 20, 2012, 8:06 pmthanks 4 ur input conqu3ror.

really appreciate it.

This post has been edited by lovebattery: Jun 20 2012, 08:06 PM

Scanning through this thread, the salary range is shockingly low. I don't believe it's the reality nor can be taken as a valid comparison. At least gauging from my industry (telecommunication), me and fellow colleagues get paid better. Assuming, LWN has many Chinese posters, aren't you guys 'supposed' to be well after the urban poverty-line (double of it at least)? Something is not right.

This post has been edited by Underhill: Jun 20 2012, 11:07 PM

y dun u share ur industry average?

age 26 earning RM3.3k gross, working as IT System Engineer, dealing with onsite support within internal staffs, as well as company server support (mainly IIS, DNS)

is it underpaid or reasonable

my previous job was rm2.9k gross, my total experience since graduation is less than 1.5 years

We cannot compare salaries using merely its face value. There are many factors which determine salary even within the same industry. Here are the 10 most common criteria:

1) Location (local, outstation, overseas, remote regions, conflict zones, office based, site based, etc)
2) Work scope and responsibilities
3) Working hours / number of working days
4) Authority limits
5) Size of downline staff team / direct reports (management positions)
6) Travel requirements
7) Job coverage area (local, regional, international, etc)
8) Experience record
9) Records of achievements / results (management positions, financial, etc)
10) Professional certifications / memberships in recognised professional bodies

There are also other criterias which may be taken into consideration according to the company's needs.

location-local small office, no travelling needed as all servers can use remote access, free parking provided

scope- less than 200 staffs, a few company servers, and several web servers hosted in vendor datacenter

5 working days, 9-6pm, always leave on time, sometimes come in abit late too due to wake up late, jam, etc

due to some servers are hosting the website, so the impact could be significant as the site could be down or perform slowly

I am degree holder in Computer engineering, and MCITP certified. My previous job was a helpdesk.

This post has been edited by AppleOfMyEye: Jun 21 2012, 10:41 AM

No input from any of you?

Just share what I know, no offense.

Last year I was Technical Consultant with 3 yrs exp and my job scope was your job scope + develops software.
I only get RM3800. So if you are working a company like me, then I think it is not underpaid.

Some consultant firms offers RM3.8k or above to fresh graduates (mostly 1st class/2nd Upper students). If u think u r better than those consultants in consulting firms. Then u definitely should get higher salary.

dun get so stress out. perhaps, i can buy u a drink to cheer u up?

I intrigued by the fact you have MCITP Certification, can you share which specialization you for MCITP Cert? I believe that most of MCITP Cert earned very well, have you tried applying another company which you can utilized your MCITP cert to get into a better and well paid job.

p/s: I'm very interested to pursue my professional certification until MCITP because industries will much more preferred candidates who earned Professional cert and along with university degree for better career journey.

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Added on June 21, 2012, 2:09 pmYou are from other field, which mean your current job are relatively new ( how long you in the current company?). Based on my experience, switching to another field and earned RM3300 are quite good. Considered yourself as fresh grad for this kind of field and earned RM3300 as your 1st job. I think you are fairly paid or most probably over paid .

Build you skills and grab as much as knowledge as you can, you are young ( me older 1 year, haha ), get professional certification and be aggressive with your tasks, don't set your mind to just do what you are instruct to do, be wider and people will recognized your hard work and reward your with much better perks.

This post has been edited by stanum: Jun 21 2012, 02:09 PM

my MCITP is in Server Administrator, only need to pass 2 MCTS and one Pro exam, it is not hard at all

still, people will see your experience to determine how much you re worth for

these certs only entitle you an entry ticket into the job field you desired

This post has been edited by AppleOfMyEye: Jun 21 2012, 03:11 PM

i believe many company practices this..

Thanks for the advice! I will definitely do my best to acquire the skills necessary to succeed in this field.

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Added on June 21, 2012, 7:08 pmWow 3.8k for fresh grads? I didn't know consultants get paid that much!

This post has been edited by iastate: Jun 21 2012, 07:08 PM

Job Title : Trainee Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Deploy and maintain systems
Years spent in company : <1 month
Company : Bank
Industry : Banking
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 0 (Fresh Grad)
salary : RM 2800

Job Title : Engineer
Job Desciption : Construction and running project
Years spent in company : 5 years
Company : Local company
Industry : Construction
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 0 (Fresh Grad)
salary : RM 3800 (plus 2 months bonus, highest can up to 6 months performance bonus)


Job Title : IT Programmer
Job Desciption : Developer and support
Years spent in company : 3 and half years
Company : MNC company
Industry : Banking / Telecommunication
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 2 years
salary : RM 3800 (1 month bonus plus other allowance about RM100 per month)


Hi guys, I'm asking on behalf of my siblings, does it underpaid?

Actually hardly to tell whether underpaid or not. It depends on skills and experience.

I assume ur sibling's skills r above average and experienced in big/good project, then he/she should ask for higher salary.
What I think is at least 5k. Maybe even higher.