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 Cheated by real estate agent, its my first house and its end up a mess

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SUSjalsrix
post Mar 5 2011, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ Mar 5 2011, 11:40 PM)
My lesson is " Do not fully trust your agent" and try to do lot of research yourself. Even no help given, I hope this give some tips to other property buyer.
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These real estate agent are cheat and liars.

These are what you should do from first to third action.

1. you go to the real estate company and try to talk to their manager, sometimes the manager is more reasonable than the agent.

If doesn't work, then

2. go to Michael chong, MCA, Jln Ampang and threaten to expose the real estate company in newspaper if they don't return the deposit.

Trust me, sometimes will work becos real estate company don't want their name to be blacklist.

If still doesn't work , then

3. Go to small claims tribunal in the Mall near Jln Putra.

Small claims tribunal is where the court will summon them to court and make them pay back the deposit.



Finally, DON'T sign the S&P.

Bukit jalil is freehold with consent, ie. land office will take 2 to 3 months to approve. They won't approve a bumi to non bumi sale unless there is special reason.

This post has been edited by jalsrix: Mar 6 2011, 12:06 AM
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ Mar 6 2011, 12:05 AM)
he still refuse to refund to me. He asked me contact his company for refund if i wan!!!

ya... I will go make police report, complain at http://www.miea.com.my,
and now got 1 more way is to complain at MCA...thanks jalsrix for this info smile.gif

He keep on say at first he dont know it is not a Bumi lot. How come he is an agent but he dont know it is bumi lot or not, and when he dont know how come he said he confirm not?
Either he really wan to cheat me or his mistake for not checking it out at 1st place, and either of the faults, he should refund me
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How can the real estate agent not know whether he is a bumi because all owners must sign a letter and meet the agent before agree to let them sell their house. I sold my house before and signed the letter before asking the agent to sell my house.

Go back to my previous post and reread bcos i modified the post. There are 3 steps to do.

I suggest you post the real estate agent name here so we can identify him.
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ Mar 6 2011, 12:08 AM)
Ya...i got my lawyer checked too and he gave me the similar answer.
But he keep on saying his lawyer able to do. But this is not my concern, the main concern is he is cheating me at 1st place. Even it is possible to transfer the title, his trustworthy is totally gone. if possible i would like to let you guys know who is this, so no one will be his next victim.
but it is not possible to explore his name here
so guys.....need be careful
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His lawyer is NOT honest !

I went to land office before and asked about the consent, the officer told me it is not possible.

I asked my lawyer , he said that after 3 months, the land office will reject, then we can appeal again, it will take another 3 months,

the second time, may or may not reject, so we lost 6 months and another 3 months to process transfer of name, if you are lucky 9 months only can get transfer of name.

It unlucky, then have to wait more than one year.

Better not take the risk ...
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ Mar 6 2011, 12:13 AM)
Yeah its written will be refund if title cant transfer. But if not mistaken to fully know whether it can be transfer or not,
1) i need to pay another 7% deposit
2) need to apply loan
3) need to sign S & P
4) need to wait for 1 or more years for the result ( even though he promise 3-6 months)

I will make police report if he still unable to give me a confiramtion date of the refund on monday.
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once you sign S&P, you'll lose the lawyer fees even if the transfer is not successful bcos lawyer already done the work. Lawyer fees can come up to rm 5K.

Don't SIGN S&P !

Follow the three steps I posted just now.

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post Mar 6 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ Mar 6 2011, 06:43 AM)
yeah...he is telling me sure can transfer
i said i wan refund he said cant. he said must tried to transfer 1st
but now im vy firm i wont listen to him d....i dont want to waste my time and opportunity to buy another house
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You tell him that you have friends (ie.me) who have asked the land office and my lawyer, and transfer cannot be done or will take very long time if you are lucky ie. more than one year.

There is NO guarantee of any transfer, so don't take the risk.

By the way, I have several properties in bukit jalil so I know.

Tell the manager you will report to MCA, michael chong and he will publish your story in newspaper , then he will start to urinate inside his pants. laugh.gif

Ask the manager to sue michael chong if he dares. Even 'ah long' (loan sharks) dare not sue michael chong.

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post Mar 6 2011, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Mar 6 2011, 04:57 PM)

So, the discount given to bumi, is added to the selling price of non-bumi units. The government wants to non-bumi to subsidise the bumi.
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Partly true.

The other reason is that the govt don't want the non-bumi to own all the land in the country.

That's why bumi houses cannot be sold to non-bumi except for special cases eg. developer cannot sell the house after xxx years, then only can sell to non-bumi. doh.gif

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post Mar 6 2011, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Mar 6 2011, 07:06 PM)
Well said. I believe in time, racial politics and policies have no place in Malaysia, time favor multiracial parties in the sense that society can only move upwards in sophistication over time.

Along with bumi quota, I hope leasehold status too. Its really unnecessary burden to homestayers and is only here because of the legacy of an old british system.
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why is leasehold a legacy of old british system ? Mind giving details ?
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post Mar 7 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(zie86 @ Mar 6 2011, 11:09 PM)
hey dingdong985,


If freehold, still 'transferable' but it will takes time and subject to Land Office.
Most bukit jalil properties are 'freehold with consent' which is different from freehold (3 months) and leasehold.

Freehold with consent needs 2 to 3 months letter of consent from land office before anything can be done.(another 3 months for lawyer processing)

Bumi to non-bumi is not transferable bcos bukit jalil is an international zone, I've gone to land office to ask before.



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post Mar 7 2011, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 7 2011, 08:35 AM)
another sad case indeed.
with my property hunt some time ago, i easily met up with more than 3 dozens agents. of that, i can only say less than 5% are good agents. the other 95% are merely lying their way around.
sad to think that some or most of these morons actually made big profits from their commission of successful transactions.
haih!
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Most of these real estate agents are 'high school dropout' or 'uneducated people' whose only capability is their unethical mouth.

As long as they make money for their company and agents, they don't care who they hire.

I have been lied to many times by these agents. mad.gif

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post Mar 7 2011, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(henryhing @ Mar 7 2011, 08:53 AM)
I dislike young agents especially if the agent is a guy..Smooth criminal.
I love old aunty agents which are not aggresive. They seem more genuine and not in rush to push u to buy a prop. They tend to be more patient..Its just based on my personal experience...
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It depends on the character/personality and not the age of the agents.

I've met a lot of rude aunties.
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post Mar 7 2011, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Mar 7 2011, 11:11 AM)
I agree that better to deal with auntie agents... they don't really look at $$$ that important, but do deals based on trust.

Nowadays a lot of younger agents in 20s, degree holder are better... at least more truthful.

You've not met rude auntie agents before.

Most are very rude, it's like their time is worth 1000 per hour. Ask them things, they don't want to reply.

"Why you want to ask so many questions if you don't wanna buy." doh.gif

Like I said, it depends on their personality and not their age.

I have met one professional young girl agent , very nice and care to explain the environment etc (unlike those auntie agent who is easily annoyed)

Another agent i met in 20s young guy also very nice. He told me how much he sold the property (unlike other people who couldn't be bothered to tell)

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post Mar 9 2011, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ Mar 9 2011, 05:10 PM)
Finally get refund!!!!!! quite relief d.....but until i saw the money in account i can fully relief smile.gif
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They should have given you your original bank cheque back instead of giving you a new cheque.

Last time, i got my own bank draft back, no need to wait for cheque to clear, just cancel.
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post Mar 10 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(henryhing @ Mar 10 2011, 11:09 AM)
Congrats bro..Btw can pm me the agents face, name and company?? so i publish it to warn others..I like to attack bad people...
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rclxms.gif please pm me the agent name and company too.

All these salesmen are liars:

Insurance agent
Real estate agent
Credit card agent


Mostly uneducated people do this type of work.
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post Mar 15 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(rambo8 @ Mar 13 2014, 03:27 AM)
plse announce the agent and law firm name here as this will help keep others from falling into the deep hole
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please announce the agent so that we won't be cheated.

 

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