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golfphunk
post Apr 16 2012, 03:42 AM

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i've been reading from page 1 till this last page, and i must say Michaellee has been very helpful with his tips and advice...as much as a property investment myself...i still learn everyday and be reminded of people's advice.

being an real estate agent for my line of work doesnt automatically make me a smart investor, i have paid $$ to educate myself via books and seminars to equip myself with education on how to invest in properties.

always wanted to get myself into auction property investments, and besides learning just like how everyone else first started learning something new...my advise is read as much as u can, research as much as u can...and due to red tapes & time efficiency with so many parties involve in transaction a property (lawyers, developers, bankers, etc).. therefore the best is to have cash ready for auction properties.

we may hear excuses from people say not enough capital, no time, etc...but if there's profit to make...an excuse is just to give us comfort on our fear & laziness. With right mindset, the right mindset will go all out to raise money or be ready to grab any profitable opportunities.

for those new thinking of buying any property out there... most basic thing to remember is:-

1. don't kena CCRIS (means make payments on time)
2. educate yourself to make more money (capital comes from here)
3. learn and follow the money jar system
4. wanna take more loan? dont forget to pay more income tax.. if u avoid income tax..no banks will lend u money
5. spend some money on property investment education rather than getting burned
6. make friends with bankers & lawyers..

last but not least, i cant speak for other agents out there... but the reason why some bidders have to pay 1% commission to agents is because there are some auction property that the banks dont pay us any professional fees... agents are humans & have the same commitments like everyone else...we need to bring food to the table too =)


anyway keep up this good healthy discussion... i've already achieved 1.2mil in good debt...aiming for at least another minimum 3mil-5mil in loan..


Added on April 16, 2012, 3:47 ami've already on my 2nd property on loan...if any of u out there has some advice on how to go around the system for buying the 3rd property without the hefty 30% downpayment...i would love to hear & learn from your experience.

cracking my head now on how to buy 3rd property

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golfphunk
post Apr 16 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Apr 16 2012, 09:10 AM)
how will the bank know if somebody avoid income tax ? do they phone up income tax to check our files ?
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if u avoid paying incometax...that shows that u are earning less than RM30k per annum..

then u are limited for loan range u can get

golfphunk
post Apr 16 2012, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Apr 16 2012, 09:00 PM)
If property has a lot of caveats, who is going to pay to remove them ?

The bank or the new owner ?
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jalstrix.. did u read through page 1?

there's alot of information discussed there which is very helpful..

as for your question...winning bidder
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post Apr 17 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Apr 16 2012, 09:44 PM)
Page 1 say if do land search, there is a caveat, cannot get bank loan.

But didn't say who's gonna pay to remove the caveat.

I just ask my friend, he said most auction units got at least one caveat.

So what's the point of doing caveat search before auction ? Waste of money.

Might as well do search after win the bid.
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haha..read from page 1 until the last page buddy =)

out of 10 auction maybe 1 may be worth bidding... its a number's game..

Michaellee... when can i buy you a meal? it would be my pleasure to get to know u as a friend and learn from you abit on property investments.. =)


golfphunk
post Apr 17 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(michaellee @ Apr 17 2012, 08:07 AM)
Hi, thank you for your support. Just one point to note, as with all my other advices, this is not the season to build up debts. If you asked me 3 years ago, I believe the challenge would be to see who has the highest debt (ie, will make more money). In a cloudy environment like the one we are facing right now, it is good to make sure you have enough savings to see you through at least 6 months of bank repayments. Cheers!


Added on April 17, 2012, 8:42 am
Thank you all for your kind remarks.

When bank negara places LTV of 70% it means that there is something really wrong with our property market and hence the need for a cooldown. My personal believe has always been that there will be a need for some correction as the property market is no longer serving the mass market. The majority of the salary earners cannot afford a simple roof over their heads. Hence the need for the government to come up with some radical policies. For most of us who has not witness the 97 crisis, should speak to someone who had invested prior to that crisis and get a feel of what had happened. What is happening now seemed to be mimical to what has happened then. In summary, my advice is not too be too "greedy" and overcommit in such market. I do know the ways to play around but yet for all the loans I have signed up last year and this year are all in the 70% (and more recently 60% for company loans). Alternatively, you can move to commercial properties for higher margins.


Added on April 17, 2012, 8:45 am

For the current market, the best properties worth bidding are not those that are 30% below market value. Try to get those which are around 10% below market value as they offer no competition and you actually get something cheap. For those 30% ones, you attract the whole china into the auctioning room and with emotion very often it is pushed above market value. I have given up on hot properties except those in 7 figures as there are ways to make money as long as there are santa clauses. And yes I do believe they exist. smile.gif
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i agree that 3 years ball game vs current market is always different.. we always say its expensive..but due to the RM500k minimum cap for foreigner to purchase a property here...a singaporean client of mine bought a unit in KLCC area for 1mil last year...and he says he can only buy a HDB flat in singapore after conversion.. and many people with cash buy because of lifestyle..its not an issue for them

but its always running in my mind..to either invest for passive income on rental..or cash out out for capital gain and reinvest again..i guess im not that high risk taker for the latter option.

commercial is always nice to go in..but high risk high profit.. 1 time burn will probably cost me bankruptcy. tongue.gif

Michaellee, what's your take on the upcoming GE? if BN stays or opposition rule...what u think could happen to our real estate sector? certainly i was too young to even know about investment during 1997..
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post Apr 17 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(michaellee @ Apr 17 2012, 02:25 PM)
I do not really comment about politics as lowyat has some really tight assed people who loves to discuss politics as if they are Najib's personal aide. So will be refraining political talks for the moment. Cheers!
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Apr 19 2012, 04:24 PM)
Taiko,

if you want to talk about politics, please discuss elsewhere.

This is about auction properties, please give more advice on what to avoid and know all the tricks
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excuse me Datuk... i was talking about property effects due to upcoming GE...and nothing much on politics were discuss anyway.

before you tell people where to go...use your eyes and read...don't expect people to feed you with all the information as if you are paying people salary.

if u got nothing much better to offer...then better dont comment.

tq


Added on April 25, 2012, 1:45 am
QUOTE(michaellee @ Apr 20 2012, 12:29 AM)
To be honest, it is OPTIONAL for us to share our experiences. And OPTIONAL for us to share with those that we wish to share it with. The way you have asked me both in private message and on open forum is as if I owe my living to you and unfortunately that's not the case. Especially even after giving you GOOD advices, you questioned as if you must know the reasons behind even though we have decided to stop sharing. Remember, it is OPTIONAL for us to share not compulsory and I am pretty sure I have provided enough lead for people to google and read up further to decide. You, on the other hand, refuses to read up and learn. Cheers.
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well said Michaellee.. kids these days are spoilt

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