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 Buying Gold As Investment V2, 2011 Gold Rush From Oil Hype

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post Jul 28 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(keii-kun @ Jul 28 2011, 09:07 PM)
if that's the case kelvin,
either you go UOB gold premier - 1kg (rm1 spread)
or UOB Gold Passbook - 500gm (can nego spread, i believe can get RM1.50 spread compared to normal RM2 spread)

else the nugget or maple gold - 3.6% spread
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What's the current price for the nugget/maple? I couldn't find the info on their website.
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post Aug 8 2011, 01:42 PM

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USD 1722/oz now
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post Aug 9 2011, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(DeaDLocK @ Aug 9 2011, 07:38 PM)
My thoughts regarding shiny gold and "paper" gold:

1) Gold accounts from the banks are backed by real gold (or so they claim anyway).

2) This talk about falling in love with something shiny in your hand is all well and good, but we are investors, not princesses. $$$ is what counts, not bling. Couldn't give a monkey's what it looks like and whether or not I hold it in my hand.

3) Physical is not very safe. If it gets stolen or house burn down, habis.

4) There is an inherent risk in the banks' gold investment schemes, as we are at the whims and fancies of their pricing structures, and if anything ever happens to the bank such that they cannot pay out, the money is effective stuck or gone. The good news is that these gold schemes are just play-play value-added services for the bank - they make such little money from it, if anything at all. There is no motivation for them to poison their customers with the pricing over something that is so incidental to their bottom line. As for the banks going bankrupt, well, my view is that if that ever happens to UOB, PBB or MBB, we have far bigger problems on our hands than worrying about our gold. I would start worring about how to farm rainwater and how to grow my own vegetables.
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wub.gif I have a similar thought but always got shut down by some of my relatives who are the physical gold holders. I see gold as a commodity rather than money. Seriously if there came the day when all the banks in the world collapsed and the paper monies had gone down to zero value (which is highly unlikely) I would go after food rather than gold to keep myself living.

Since the collapse of bank is possible but not likely... paper gold (to me) is more attractive than physical gold.
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(insaint708 @ Aug 10 2011, 11:37 AM)
how fast is consider fast gain? 1 month?
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gold is USD 1776 per oz now you will see the price hit another record high above $1900/oz in one month time. Grab yourself a few grams bro!
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 10 2011, 12:52 PM)
You guaranteee?   rolleyes.gif
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According to historical figures rolleyes.gif from 1500 -> 1650 -> 1750 within a month laugh.gif

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post Aug 10 2011, 01:34 PM

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Paper gold is more liquid *in my opinion* rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(insaint708 @ Aug 10 2011, 01:59 PM)
Yes, i agreed! But paper gold for long term? hmm....
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Doesnt matter be it a paper or a real one it is still the sexy gold. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 01:28 AM

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Just bought myself 1.5 ounce of Gold ETCs nod.gif *riding on the bandwagon*
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post Aug 11 2011, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(BrotherHoe @ Aug 11 2011, 03:05 AM)
i dont wanna buy physical gold,  cause i doesnt know where to keep

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i dont feel like getting gold account from bank

what best solution for me ?
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Buy a gold ring and where it. No storage or 'virtual' gold hassles. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Aug 11 2011, 08:13 AM)
ETC = Exchange Traded Comodities, right? similiar to ETF but none in malaysia
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Yes you are right. I have a foreign trading account smile.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:55 AM

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Thought it will reach $1900 by next month who knows it's gona reach there by tomorrow / early next week !!!! rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:15 AM)
Yes US$ 2,000 per ounce is only the next target barrier but something that's very possible to achieve. But gold is very volotile. 1 hour ago it was trading at RM 5,473 per ounce and now its dropped to RM 5,360. But as long as the trend is upwards, the price will keep going up.

But the question is: Do we still continue to invest or just be contend with current investments? Im thinking of going into UOB now since the spread is only RM2 compared to Maybank with RM 7.20
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Should be 2% vs 7+% spread right?
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post Aug 11 2011, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2011, 12:54 PM)
No its RM 2 vs RM7. UOB seems fixed but Maybank fluctuates as the price increases.
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If it's in ringgit then
Eg 1. spot price = RM100/g

UOB sells at RM102 and at buys 98
MayBank sells at RM107 and buys at 93

Eg 2. spot price = RM 10000/g

UOB sells at RM10002 and buys at 9998
MayBank sells at RM10007 and buys at 9993

Doesnt seem right...
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post Aug 11 2011, 07:00 PM

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US stock markets will open in 2.5 hours time. We'll what happens, probably a small rebound.
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post Aug 12 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Aug 12 2011, 05:32 PM)
Gold prices has been dropping or steady the last 2 days.

Next week how ah? Drop sum more?

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Wait till it climbs back Bro, gold prices fluctuate on a daily basis just like stocks do. Until the US debt crisis is solved, the price of gold will remain high.
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post Aug 13 2011, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(jun16 @ Aug 13 2011, 06:23 PM)
hey~i am a newbie~i hope to get some information about this gold investment....well,i'm just 17 year old but going to 18 2 more month  rclxm9.gif
since i am a newbie so where can i buy those gold?
minimum need by how much?buy per grams?
must reach 18 year old to buy?
got money can buy or need to have steady work salary only allow to buy? rclxub.gif

hope all sifu can giv some advice...
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As long as u have money u can buy gold. U can check out the websites for these banks - Maybank, UOB, KFH, Public Bank for their requirements.
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post Aug 13 2011, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(jun16 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:39 PM)
oo~can i ask in this "Minimum Subsequent Purchase/ Sale" what means by "in multiple of 1 gram"? rclxub.gif
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It means the purchase has to be in 1g, 2g, 3g,...300g etc (whole number) not 1.34g/2.59g/3.67g/300.45g etc. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 16 2011, 04:43 PM

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USD 1782/oz... going back up again..
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post Aug 16 2011, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Aug 16 2011, 08:54 PM)
hey guys i read about 13 pages of this thread but theres one thing i dont understand.

there are so many types of golds out there ( established companies selling gold like PG..physical gold from paper gold..). Can I just sell to any company or bank as long as the gold is pure like maybe, 99.99% ? does it matter what brand it is or where i got it from?
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If you are selling the gold to the banks then the 'brand' of gold does matter though cos some of them only accept gold from reputable gold manufacturers namely Royal Mint of Malaysia, Perth Mint, Royal Canadian Mint etc.
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post Aug 17 2011, 04:15 PM

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My desktop widget shows US$1801/oz now.

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