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 Buying Gold As Investment V2, 2011 Gold Rush From Oil Hype

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joey85
post Jun 17 2011, 11:41 AM

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i went UOB to open an gold investment account two days ago, when i tell my initiate plan with the sales assistant, he said better put in their unit trust than invest in gold as the price now is quite high, he predict it will drop slight in these few months.. so at the end i put in their OSK-UOB KidSaves Trust which he mentioned to me is greater potential of return... (by calculation)... im still wondering am i doing the right choice now sweat.gif
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post Jun 17 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(sapapa @ Jun 17 2011, 11:55 AM)
For me, gold is not my choice of investment because the return is TOO slow. Yea, I said TOO SLOW. Even slower than mutual funds. One good thing about gold is that it WILL increase and will NEVER decrease in the long-run. So you will have a 100% assured gain when you invest in gold BUT the return p/a is LOW compared to mutual funds.

Eg:Gold +2 - 12%return(FIX) Mutual Funds -10 - 40% return(Unstable)
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ya.. this is what he told me... that why he suggested me to buy the unit trust above.. btw i do have gold investment account with PBB, bout 3 years ago, open together with my mom, now found that the price spread is not as good as UOB that why planning to buy with UOB, that time the gold price is RM117 smile.gif but only bought the min requirment .. bit regret tongue.gif
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post Jun 17 2011, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(quackpack @ Jun 17 2011, 02:08 PM)
want quick investment go to silver, silver is almost like investing in stock market, dangerous but potential high return if you hit it.

For interested parties, gold is not a good short term investment, gold is only a good investment if you are going to put it >10 years.

btw, gold is in the erratic stage. Good indication of another bottoming.
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means buying now is a good choice or not sweat.gif still dilemma blush.gif
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post Jun 17 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(quackpack @ Jun 17 2011, 02:51 PM)
Just remember don't take my word for it, it is still your decision when to buy gold.

Gold is up-trending, enjoy smile.gif
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sweat.gif okie ~ thanks btw smile.gif
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post Jun 18 2011, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Jun 17 2011, 11:04 PM)
well, maybe the sales assistant can earn commission by selling Unit Trust


In fact I'm having the same idea with u, tongue.gif I will open the gold Acc again in next month haha
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post Jun 18 2011, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(FrancescoTop8 @ Jun 18 2011, 03:08 PM)
In unit trust, you will pay an initial charge (5% - 6%) and an annual management charge (1% - 1.75%)
It means u have to pay ur initial charge. But, the worst of it is annual management charge, before u start the race EVERY YEAR. 
Imagine ur Skyline GTR34 have to wait at pit stop(to clear the ANNUAL management fee) while rival`s Skyline GTR34 already speeding at will. 

In gold investment, u do have Spread, but no annual management charge at all.
It means u only need to clear ur spread and u were right in the race.
Imagine ur Skyline GTR34 allowed to speeding while rival`s Skyline GTR34 still idle in pit stop.  whistling.gif
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I know that y bit regret to place that trust, however, nvm la since already place then just wish that it will earn.. And will place another investment in gold account in coming weeks or month smile.gif thanks for the advice above thumbup.gif
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post Jun 19 2011, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(FrancescoTop8 @ Jun 18 2011, 10:53 PM)
Unit trust has a cooling-off period.
Investor can enforce this condition if he/she doesn`t want to continue the investment.

I also encounter the similar situation like yours.
The bank executive AKA unit trust agent try to divert  >30% of my planned gold capital into unit trusts, of her recommendation.
I do realised that i`m noob in financial things, but by promoting unit trust like there`s no tomorrow, it just insult of intelligence.
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Hmmm u r right in the sense that we r brimg manipulated by the bank agent hahaha nvm.. Just treat it as experience, so that next time I will stand firm on my own planning and decision smile.gif

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post Jul 27 2011, 05:24 PM

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a noob question..i already got gold investment account and im planning to buy physical gold now, which bank rate is most cheapest? and i saw there are many types of physical gold, which is better and for long term?

thanks all pro happy.gif
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(PatEagle @ Jul 28 2011, 02:53 AM)
Personally, I only buy 999.9 physical gold from Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd. Currently their Hibah is at 2% per month for 3 months for 50g and above. More details at http://mygoldgoose.wordpress.com/

In addition, if you have old gold jewellery, you can also convert them to 999.9 gold bullion. Learn more at http://bit.ly/qC9Xe8

Hope this helps. Cheers!  smile.gif
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sorry tongue.gif im asking for banks physical gold only tongue.gif dont dare to buy from other sources smile.gif

as i m viewing UOB gold coin / other type of physical gold... coz i dont know how to differentiate what is PAMP gold, gold coin etc...coz my understanding (very little on gold now tongue.gif) that gold price is 1gram = RM156.86 today but UOB selling PAMP gold at RM299 1GM ... (does GM = gram??)

then the price for 10GMS PAMP gold = RM1771... 100GM PAMP gold = RM16640 rclxub.gif kinda blur on these... can any pro can help me out tongue.gif thanks in advance notworthy.gif

so i would like to know bout this tongue.gif and which bank is better to buy these kind of physical gold? smile.gif
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post Jul 28 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Jul 28 2011, 10:53 AM)
i suggest read again back-dated posts, i believed the answers are there, common man, take an extra mile, simple as ABC.

another thing you can do to confirm, just call UOB, their answer 100% correct.  thumbup.gif
>.< quite hard to search over tongue.gif i think i better can UOB and ask "again" (in fact i asked before tongue.gif)

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 28 2011, 10:57 AM)
wOW !  1 GM at Rm299???  Maybe typo error? 
That would be ridiculous since the 10gm is Rm1771    rclxub.gif
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not sure... u can refer to their website:

http://www1.uob.com.my/personal/useful/price_rates.html

under gold bullion price happy.gif

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post Jul 29 2011, 12:01 PM

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can i know which UOB branch selling physcial gold ar?? i call the one menjalara branch dont have they say call KL main branch but in fact i called KL main branch and asked, they are the one told me to call nearest branch to asked... rclxub.gif really dont know where to ask liao... LOL

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post Aug 11 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(jian5481 @ Aug 11 2011, 05:45 PM)
Well, not everyone can afford 20g initial investment. I wanted to buy from UOB too last year, but I was a fresh grad earning 1.8k per month. With the savings I had at that time, I could only afford 10g, slowly adding more as time goes by. I don't think anything smaller than 20g is pointless. Even with 1g, that's a start for those who earns little, yet planning for their future. But of course if I do have the money, I would buy as much as I can afford.
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tongue.gif i also started with small capital therefore earn not much (after 2 years).. but in terms of % of profit = 57% over 2 years, average one year earn 28% which is greater than invest into unit trust tongue.gif the only thing i regret is i dont pour all my savings into it.. otherwise it is 2x right now LOL thumbup.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 11 2011, 05:53 PM)
When things turn good, everyone will be saying ... "If only I had......."  biggrin.gif
Me included..  tongue.gif
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u r right btw if really can predicted i m a millionaire now but in fact.. this will not happen tongue.gif coz the gold price already up from RM107 (2years ago when i 1st invest) till now RM170 tongue.gif heard that it may reach RM200 at year end --> this is just a wind blow? or true? no one can confirm tongue.gif but gold price has increase dramatically recently sweat.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Aug 19 2011, 10:41 AM)
still havent started yet laugh.gif
still mulling over whether to go for maybank or uob.
maybank for the convenience factor, and uob for the low spread factor.
while in the meantime, the price keeps increasing.
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gold investment is kinda long investment (to me) so maybe u can opt for UOB since selling price is cheapest among other + spread price lowest as well.. (for me) i dont mind to go UOB branch (even it is less branches around) the 1st time or invest in one go... tongue.gif

QUOTE(kuhfayLover @ Aug 19 2011, 10:49 AM)
mega sales today.  tongue.gif
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not really that mega sales compare to last few weeks when US announce debt crisis sweat.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Aug 19 2011, 10:51 AM)
hmmm which do u think is better, open an UOB account and withdraw physical gold OR buy PAMP suisse directly from goldsmiths?
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i think withdraw physical gold is subject to management approval and limited branch can do it.. coz as i check before like bdr menjalara branch they dont sell physical gold thus i dont think can withdraw physical gold from that branch...

for PAMP suisse.. can i know how i can sell it if i buy it? im thinking to buy but not sure where to sell >.< does bank accept it?
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post Aug 19 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Aug 19 2011, 11:01 AM)
ah.. thanks a lot for the suggestion. yeah, i think it could be a medium-term investment as well. while its cheap now, just go open one now, and let it grow for a year or two laugh.gif
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welcome .. im not too sure it is cheap or not now.. heard that it might drop bit and up slowly.. also heard that it might up to USD1900 (now USD1831.8 per oz)... smile.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Aug 19 2011, 05:58 PM)
it comes with the packaging, at the back of d packaging, got some no, is that the serial no?
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im just about to ask how does the cert look like... so it is just the packing of the PAMP? ya saw before... got serial no. at the packing tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Aug 22 2011, 12:33 PM)

Added on August 22, 2011, 10:00 am
might to let me know whr u check this rate? i c from UOB web still remain 179 something
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where is UOB web link for gold price? thanks
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http://www1.uob.com.my/business/GMIM/GMIM_pga.html

click at the Rates and Fees > and then "Click here to view the indicative prices" (see the pop up window) smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2011, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Aug 22 2011, 12:42 PM)
ok thanks. how long we need to q up to start up a new account? i might wan to go now?

Do we need saving account in the bank for GSA?
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welcome... depends on whether there are lot of ppl or not... but last 2 weeks i visit the branch.. it take around 45-50mins and for ur info once u open u need to place at least 20gm happy.gif

and yes u need to have a saving account with them too ^^

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post Aug 22 2011, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Aug 22 2011, 12:50 PM)
thanks.. so i need to bring more than 20gm cost for opening GSA and saving account?
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yes and bring extra $$ coz that time i go and submit application at customer service the rate is 169.80 but when i wanna pay the $$ the rate is 171.40, their system will only follow the current price in their system but not follow the rate write in the form .. so depend on ur luck >.< the saving if not mistaken RM10 only ba.. 4get liao sweat.gif

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