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 Buying Gold As Investment V2, 2011 Gold Rush From Oil Hype

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xcarfieldx
post May 26 2011, 05:34 PM

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oic. means, if USD raise, then the gold value will be increase too.

Since everyone is buying gold and storing it without use it,so we can say that there's a probability that supply will more than demand in future right?
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post May 26 2011, 07:20 PM

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Do you have any recommended dealer if want to buy unique / exotic dinar and dirham tongue.gif I just want to keep Dinar and Dirham to myself, not for investment purpose smile.gif
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post May 26 2011, 10:29 PM

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why you all pawn the gold?
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post May 26 2011, 10:34 PM

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Can anyone tell me how much does BNM sale its Gold Kijang at the moment? Im thinking of purchasing some since its gold credibility is reliable.

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post May 26 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ShoppingBag @ May 26 2011, 10:34 PM)
Can anyone  tell me how much does BNM sale its Gold Kijang at the moment? Im thinking of purchasing some since its gold credibility is reliable.
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You can check at the price: http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=141
The 1 oz coin has a lower spread
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post May 26 2011, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(xcarfieldx @ May 26 2011, 10:29 PM)
why you all pawn the gold?
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Few reasons

Reason 1 Playing a fool doh.gif
Reason 2 For safe keeping... balik kampung and no one at home laugh.gif
Reason 4 No munny cry.gif
Reason 5 Leasing for credit so they can buy more gold hmm.gif

QUOTE(ShoppingBag @ May 26 2011, 10:34 PM)
Can anyone  tell me how much does BNM sale its Gold Kijang at the moment? Im thinking of purchasing some since its gold credibility is reliable.
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Aiyoh this question again... shocking.gif posted so many times oledi.

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ikram.adi
post May 26 2011, 11:52 PM

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I think they do it for Reason no 5. But banks keep changing the rules.
People pawned gold and when the rates go up, they go back to the bank to overlap their loan. I heard it is only profitable in Ar Rahnu because the rate is .75% per month compared to 2% traditional pawn shop
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post May 26 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(ikram.adi @ May 27 2011, 12:52 AM)
I think they do it for Reason no 5. But banks keep changing the rules.
People pawned gold and when the rates go up, they go back to the bank to overlap their loan. I heard it is only profitable in Ar Rahnu because the rate is .75% per month compared to 2% traditional pawn shop
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Right on the spot icon_idea.gif

Edit : Sup dupe

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post May 27 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(dinodrumz @ May 26 2011, 05:33 PM)
So basically in your opinion is it better to buy gold dinar's 916 or gold bars 999.9? I mean if you have 10K as capital. what should one spend on..
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From my personal view, in case u plan to pawn it for any reason that u'll face in the future, go for jewellery to avoid a lot of constraint in order to pawn it. Yes, u'll lose a bit for it's "upah". Or u can purchase a kijang emas gold coin produced bty BNM. And u need to bring that gold cirt. if u r goin to pawn it at Ar-rahnu.
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post May 27 2011, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ May 26 2011, 07:20 PM)
Do you have any recommended dealer if want to buy unique / exotic dinar and dirham  tongue.gif  I just want to keep Dinar and Dirham to myself, not for investment purpose smile.gif
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Try taking a look at this list.
List of Malaysian Dinar

There is a list of websites for more information about the dinars.
You can ask around in the group if you are really serious buying.


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post May 27 2011, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(ikram.adi @ May 27 2011, 01:16 AM)
Try taking a look at this list.
List of Malaysian Dinar

There is a list of websites for more information about the dinars.
You can ask around in the group if you are really serious buying.
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Owh good, thanks notworthy.gif
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post May 27 2011, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(sharilazri @ May 27 2011, 12:06 AM)
From my personal view, in case u plan to pawn it for any reason that u'll face in the future, go for jewellery to avoid a lot of constraint in order to pawn it. Yes, u'll lose a bit for it's "upah". Or u can purchase a kijang emas gold coin produced bty BNM. And u need to bring that gold cirt. if u r goin to pawn it at Ar-rahnu.
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BNMs kijang is sold at Maybank....they dont give certificates for the coins
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post May 27 2011, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(xcarfieldx @ May 26 2011, 02:03 PM)
It seems like a lot of Malaysian start investing in gold. I wonder, in future, will the supply more than demand..


Added on May 26, 2011, 2:04 pm

Why the rise of gold price will decrease USD value? What's the relation between USD and Gold?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 26 2011, 02:25 PM)
Gold price is quoted/based on USD.

If USD goes down, while if gold price doesn't go up <------ it makes the gold "cheaper" in term of currency outside USD.
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Ya, thats y i say that gold has been increasing a lot this year because USD goes down....
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post May 27 2011, 08:38 AM

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I heard if you want to pawn Kijang Emas to Ar Rahnu, you have to bring your purchase receipt.
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post May 27 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 26 2011, 09:38 AM)
Why no stock?

When QE3 comes, DJ will keep chuggin along........where do you get

no spare parts?   hmm.gif   Japan dont manufacture many spares IN JAPAN. methinks theres a thing called outsourcing........thnk China    nod.gif
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Lot of japanese company such as Toyota, Nissan is shutting and slowing down many of the plant in USA, Europe.
All you need is few components certain chipsets from Japan then you cannot complete your the product such as Iphone.

Many of the high-tech stuff still belong to japan, only done in Japan, only Japanese know how to do it. 20% of world electronics
On top of that, high-tech stuff sometime need pre-long fine-tuning and calibration, now the factory is gone.
The process of re-building and re-calibration takes time. Whether there is any profit from rebuilding it is still questionable.


Added on May 27, 2011, 8:47 am
QUOTE(sharilazri @ May 27 2011, 12:06 AM)
From my personal view, in case u plan to pawn it for any reason that u'll face in the future, go for jewellery to avoid a lot of constraint in order to pawn it. Yes, u'll lose a bit for it's "upah". Or u can purchase a kijang emas gold coin produced bty BNM. And u need to bring that gold cirt. if u r goin to pawn it at Ar-rahnu.
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latest memo from Agro Bank (confirmed) and bank Rakyat (i think confirm), no more pawning of gold bar and gold bullion coin. Only jewerely.
For those who drop by bank Raykat U can double confirmed it.
U should have other option in hand as bank will change their policy from time to time especially those Bank Rakyat, Agro Bank, Islam bank etc.
big banks seldom change policy.


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post May 27 2011, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ May 27 2011, 08:42 AM)
Lot of japanese company such as Toyota, Nissan is shutting and slowing down many of the plant in USA, Europe.
All you need is few components certain chipsets from Japan then you cannot complete your the product such as Iphone.

Many of the high-tech stuff still belong to japan, only done in Japan, only Japanese know how to do it. 20% of world electronics
On top of that, high-tech stuff sometime need pre-long fine-tuning and calibration, now the factory is gone.
The process of re-building and re-calibration takes time. Whether there is any profit from rebuilding it is still questionable.
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i thouight you were refering to the damage in Japan.

On the other hand, i am sure they wont shut down the plants which may affect assmbly?

Again many of these electronic components and assembly are NOT manufactured
by the cars manufacturers themsselves. Infact most R&D, Design and manufacture these
items are OUTSOURCED


Added on May 27, 2011, 8:51 am
QUOTE(GoldChan @ May 27 2011, 08:42 AM)

latest memo from Agro Bank (confirmed) and bank Rakyat (i think confirm), no more pawning of gold bar and gold bullion coin. Only jewerely.
For those who drop by bank Raykat U can double confirmed it.
U should have other option in hand as bank will change their policy from time to time especially those Bank Rakyat, Agro Bank, Islam bank etc.
big banks seldom change policy.
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As usual these are fickle banks chnaging their minds at the drop of a pin.....mentality of some managers.
The strange thing is they accept jewellery and NOT bullions? rclxub.gif

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FrancescoTop8
post May 27 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ May 27 2011, 08:42 AM)

latest memo from Agro Bank (confirmed) and bank Rakyat (i think confirm), no more pawning of gold bar and gold bullion coin. Only jewerely.
For those who drop by bank Raykat U can double confirmed it.
U should have other option in hand as bank will change their policy from time to time especially those Bank Rakyat, Agro Bank, Islam bank etc.
big banks seldom change policy.
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Just called Bank Rakyat pawn centre(Az-Zahab scheme), they accept gold coin & bullion for pawning.
But, only selected maufacturers are recognised :
i-Kijang Emas
ii - Dinar Kelantan
iii- UOB physical gold (Mapple leaf & Australian nugget)
iv- Jewellery shop(Poh Kong & Tomei)
v-1Asia(cant remember its full name)

You need to bring receipt or serial number of the respective bullion for confirmation.


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post May 27 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(sharilazri @ May 27 2011, 12:06 AM)
From my personal view, in case u plan to pawn it for any reason that u'll face in the future, go for jewellery to avoid a lot of constraint in order to pawn it. Yes, u'll lose a bit for it's "upah". Or u can purchase a kijang emas gold coin produced bty BNM. And u need to bring that gold cirt. if u r goin to pawn it at Ar-rahnu.
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I think buying Dinar Kelantan or Dinar Perak will be of the safest way for now. And their price follows www.islamicmint.com.my.

The obstacles is to buy from a reliable dealer... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(FrancescoTop8 @ May 27 2011, 12:09 PM)
Just called Bank Rakyat pawn centre(Az-Zahab scheme), they accept gold coin & bullion for pawning.
But, only selected maufacturers are recognised :
i-Kijang Emas
ii - Dinar Kelantan
iii- UOB physical gold (Mapple leaf & Australian nugget)
iv- Jewellery shop(Poh Kong & Tomei)
v-1Asia(cant remember its full name)

You need to bring receipt or serial number of the respective bullion for confirmation.
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Look there, a physical gold with certificate is important. blush.gif
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QUOTE(jphlau @ May 27 2011, 08:15 AM)
Ya, thats y i say that gold has been increasing a lot this year because USD goes down....
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ic. just want to confirm again see whether I get it right.

When USD goes down, Gold value will be cheaper to other currency such as Malaysia(because Gold is valued in USD currency). Since it is cheaper, alot people buy it.

When demand is increase, the price of gold increase.

Am I right?


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