I would say consider only ozzie nugget or canadian maples.

My suggestion is to get the Ozzie Kangaroos Nugget

1. Different design every year - you gets to admire the different kangaroos before you locked it under your bed. Maple has only one standard design.

2. The nugget comes with air-tite casing. maple comes in a flimsy plastic casing.

Just my preference. Both are being weighted the same buy/sell price under UOB.

This post has been edited by 3think: Jul 17 2011, 03:10 PM

Gold and silver are currently the best investments. they may seem to change slowly at the moment but they are the safest form because shares, stocks and bonds are linked with paper money and as the inflation increases the value of all these will go down to ZERO. Only gold and silver will have any worth.
Look it up here: http://www.physicalgoldsilver.com/home

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Added on July 17, 2011, 7:42 pmThis is only true in case of paper gold. In case of physical gold the value increases many folds. This may not be as rapid or unpredictable as in stocks and bonds but real physical gold and silver will never crash
END of the story
Try and read this Why Should You Considered Silver As An Investment!

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Added on July 17, 2011, 7:49 pmThe best form of investment is in PHYSICAL GOLD AND SILVER. but not in this order of priority. Silver is far better form of investment as it has industrial application and price rise is much frequent and stable. This may not be the case with Silver stocks but Physical silver definitely has its demand.
Why Should You Considered Silver As An Investment!

This post has been edited by Owais Siddiqui: Jul 17 2011, 07:49 PM

Inflation will spark up the stock market as well. Company make more profit, eventually higher share price.
A USD150 oil price definitely will make the oil company make tons of profit.
So does properties, if properties price sky-rocketing, properties stocks also booming.
Same with other commodities.
Inflation will make money value become smaller, it won't become zero.
Zero?
Add a few more zero at the back may be.

We are talking about interest or yield, not capital appreciation.
Be it paper gold or physical gold, both are not going to yield you any interest.

A 100g gold won't become 101g of gold.
End of story.


Price is more stable for silver? LOL, see the graph how the price spike to 50 then down to 34, then shoot up again, it is very volatile. Volatile comes from where?
Only highly speculated stuff has high volatility.

And this topic is about gold, we have existing topic on silver if want to talk about silver.

what is better gold/silver or stock or property? For me I choose silver and gold. long time back.
OK lah. We need some specific result.

Point 1.
Cherroy.
Can you give us some local stocks where if we have brought in any year
2000 - 2009. it beats our investment in gold. Gold average about 12.5% / per annum since 2001.

2001 :- gold is USD260/- Kijang emas about RM1,100/oz . Now it is RM5000/- approx 5x.
2001 :- Double storey terrace house in KL, 22 x 75 :- RM250K.
Now about RM500K. 2x increase. So gold beat property.
Let said you pay by leverage 5x1, zero down deposit, maybe you be able to beat the gold after deducting the legal fee, stamp duty etc but gold does not need to do lot of work one just buy and store in safe box. Totally passive income from inflation point of view.


The point I want to make is, if you see growth from inflation point of view or from actual growth point of view.

With one exception, if you have brought during 1998 crash then I think U R millionaire lah. this one has to be excluded because it's an argument from extreme (best case scenario).


Point 2. Cherroy.
Who is as smart as you that they managed to brought all the stock you have brought in Point 1.

Point 3.
Ya, oil company make lot of money but the money cannot buy back the oil they sold and burnt.

there is a book . "The end of growth" and "Peak Everything" by richard heinberg.

Point 4. oil price
High oil price will lead to higher property price in some sense
a) Construction is more expensive. Big truck lorry need lot of diesel.
b) material need oil to construct, transport, maintain.
=> Higher property price.

but in long run it may lead to lower property prices as there is no oil to sustain such cities of concrete.


only certain properties will be super valuable and the rest will be of value much much less than it's actual construction cost.


This post has been edited by GoldChan: Jul 18 2011, 11:19 AM

There is no such thing which investment is better than the other.

Gold price was stagnant for 25 up to 30 years without any much movement, while stock and properties escalated 10x, 15x, 20x. during this period.
So now it is gold turn to shine over the others.

I was responding the statement that everything value become zero, others become worthless, but only gold shine and only gold is worth to invest.
Yes, it is good to diversification into some gold position, but to say other asset will become worthless if gold price shoot up to USD2000 or USD3000, is never right.

We look good on particular investment class, feel optimistic about it, it doesn't mean we brush aside or look down other investment class, they may outperform your investment class with condition upfold, which we never know.

Current gold price trend also can be an extreme trend from USD500-600 to USD1500, if we look back 10 years from now.
It may be just a starting built up trend or it may not, or toppish, we never know.

Agreed with cherroy

I feel that the gold investment entry is too high and the ROI percentage or real money gain per money invested is too low compare with some of my other investment. This opinion may also be due to my limited funds.

That does not mean i don't invest in gold, but i also invest in stocks and properties, which also gives me good return as i tend to look for low entry investment. "Buy low Sell High" that is what all guru's advice he he.

every investment have it's days of boom and bust, in USA the late 90's it's tech stock, in early 2000 period it's property boom. All the boom will make you rich and all the bust will make you cry.

The gold boom started in early 2000, after 7-9 years boom (depending when you count the gold boom start) i started wondering when the party will stop?

Gold booming was only start around 2004-2005.

A chart represent thousand word.

In the 1970's, gold price was booming for about a decade, before stagnant for 25 years.

Quoted from http://goldprice.org/gold-price-history.ht...year_gold_price




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To have the appropriate investment knowledge is important right + diversification.

At the end of the day, we profit form our investment + calculated risk.

p/s : Gold price is rising like 'hell' this week... waiting for the next drop.

p/s 2: Nobody knows about Dinar Kelantan here???

Gold Rallies to Record in Best Run Since 1980

Gold rose to a record above $1,600 an ounce as debt concerns in Europe and the U.S. boosted demand for the metal as a protection of wealth. Bullion climbed to all- time highs in euros and pounds and silver topped $40 an ounce.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-18/g...since-1980.html

These may shed some light...

http://www.dinarkel.com/

http://www.nikmaheran.com/v1/attachments/0...INAR-Maidin.doc

Gold actually bottomed in 2001 signaling the end of the bear mkt ....
so it would be technically 10 year old bull now

The gold chart history let me think about BDI index (Baltic Exchange Dry Index).

"If" the trend is follow (all upward trend will be followed by correction), then gold price might undergo severe correction.

Please refer to the link:-

http://www.investmenttools.com/futures/bdi...c_dry_index.htm

In year 2006, BDI shoot from around 2500 points to 11,305 points (March 2008), then followed by severe correction from 11305 points to around 1500 points ( around Nov 2008) and now it remain stagnant at 1800 points (July 2011).

This post has been edited by firee818: Jul 19 2011, 08:21 AM

my bet is on gold and silver.
If you look at the amount of money printed, gold is no where a bubble.
How it become a bubble when it is just 0.8% of total world assets.

http://www.bearishnews.com/post/3515

so far it didnt drop much and for years its moving upwards.
last week drop alittle and picks up well this week .

Paper gold could become a bubble.............not physical

Read that before too, if paper gold more than actual existing gold, terrible things will happen
But arent paper gold's rate follow the physical gold's rate? Then how did the bubble happen?

Just read The Stars, some company estimate that gold price will increase more this coming months.
Actually what makes the price of gold spike up around the year 2005-2005?

Gold and silver is relative small market if compared to bond and stocks.
Gold is another asset market or asset class.

Bubble or not bubble, I don't know, I have no clue.
Gold is an asset that you cannot value on it.
Nobody know what is the worth of gold, we have no benchmark or valuation method that can decide what gold price should be.
It can be USD1600, it can be USD16000. Both level are same.

It all depended on buyer and seller willingness to pay for it.
Unlike properties, stocks, bonds, you can have valuation method based on return you can get from them, aka yield comparison, wealth generation.

The current gold market price aka USD1600 is also a from paper gold price, there is no real gold transacted directly but futures trading contract.
Physical gold price is based on paper gold transaction.

guys...... what is procedure buy gold bullion coin from UOB?

and which branch in KL has selling gold?

should be at one of these UOB branches.

- Jalan Raja Laut
- Jalan Tengah Branch
- Bishop Branch.
- Butterworth Branch