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 The Raw Selvedge Denim Thread, Version 4

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post Mar 11 2011, 12:07 AM

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I think this is the classic jeans fit.

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post Mar 11 2011, 01:00 AM

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^wtf, the fit of that jacket is unreal..
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post Mar 11 2011, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Mar 10 2011, 01:13 PM)
no you dont need to soak it because it is already sanfornized

washing will cause it to shrink minimally because it is sanfornized too.. nvr throw ur jeans in the dryer wink.gif
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alright thanks! haha you've made my day!

where do you get the information as to what kind of jeans have been Sanforized or not?
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post Mar 11 2011, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(bravoping @ Mar 11 2011, 01:04 AM)
alright thanks! haha you've made my day!

where do you get the information as to what kind of jeans have been Sanforized or not?
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I think its safe to assume that if it isn't raw, it's been sanforized (please correct me if i am wrong).
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post Mar 11 2011, 02:15 AM

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Haha I have a few evisus basically

No.1 unsanfornized.
No.2 Sanfornized with same material
No.3 Sanfornized
No.4 Sanfornized

heres the where i got the info from

http://evisu-guides.blogspot.com/2010/01/e...ication-of.html

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post Mar 11 2011, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 10 2011, 11:34 PM)
Rm600 and above but got 30% discount  for all naked and famous jeans.
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how much is N&F abroad ? if it is abt US$150 .. then rm600 with 30% discount should be the correct price
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post Mar 11 2011, 09:32 AM

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I'm not really looking for a skinny fit. I think slim looks just fine on me. I can carry the skinny jeans look, but I already have one dirty ol' Levis for that purpose tongue.gif that was before I stumbled upon raws n selvedges.

Anyway there aren't any raws in the 17.5 fit I think. I will do my own tapering if I wanted a 17.5
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post Mar 11 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(71ers @ Mar 11 2011, 08:29 AM)
how much is N&F abroad ? if it is abt US$150 .. then rm600 with 30% discount should be the correct price
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Yeah, ive calculated and its more or less a decent price and they got loads of stocks. So i wont worry too much about size
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post Mar 11 2011, 03:52 PM

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Who bought the Dior 27" 19cm? It is sold.
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I PMed immediately after you posted. He told me it was sold within 1 minute. It was a once in a lifetime find sad.gif kinda like your shoes u got on ebay.

If you ever see a sz 27 or 28, do let us know biggrin.gif

I don't lurk there as often
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post Mar 12 2011, 12:46 AM

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Hi guys,
can anyone tell me whether this is a selvedge jeans or not.

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QUOTE(irmond @ Mar 12 2011, 12:46 AM)
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Hi guys,
can anyone tell me whether this is a selvedge jeans or not.
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unfortunately it isnt
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post Mar 12 2011, 01:28 PM

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Plenty of pictures on first thread to guide you
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post Mar 13 2011, 12:13 AM

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I went to Musa and looked at the Naked and Famous as well as Cheap Mondays.

Maybe I am a denim phillistine or just plain stupid, but in what way are the N&Fs superior to the lowly Uniqlos? I was expecting something more, but they do not appear to me perceptibly better than the jeans I was wearing.

I will readily admit that some of the Evisu's I've handled are truly incredible -- there is just no arguing that they are quality first, cost second. But Musa I left rather unimpressed.

Can someone tell me why they think Uniqlo MiC selvedges are low-end?

BTW I like how generic and unbranded my jeans look:
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Added on March 13, 2011, 12:34 am
QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Mar 8 2011, 06:06 PM)
Here are some of the fit pictures I have promised, Sorry for being really busy but here it goes smile.gif

Dior Homme Brut 19cm
1 year 2 months 2 washes.

In the hotel

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I think the fits evidenced here are good for sperm count and nothing else. Baggy and shapeless.

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post Mar 13 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 13 2011, 12:13 AM)
I went to Musa and looked at the Naked and Famous as well as Cheap Mondays.

Maybe I am a denim phillistine or just plain stupid, but in what way are the N&Fs superior to the lowly Uniqlos? I was expecting something more, but they do not appear to me perceptibly better than the jeans I was wearing.

I will readily admit that some of the Evisu's I've handled are truly incredible -- there is just no arguing that they are quality first, cost second. But Musa I left rather unimpressed.

Can someone tell me why they think Uniqlo MiC selvedges are low-end?

easy...uniqlo is a less exclusive brand as compared to naked and famous...it is like comparing topman jeans with samurai or momotaro jeans....as much as uniqlo claim that the MIC selvage is made by kaihara denim but it is from the lowest range of denim from the kaihara production...whereas the ones use for naked and famous is way much superior....try buying both and wear em in the same duration...u can see the difference in feel and quality after a few wear...plus another obvious reason is...one is made in mass number in china of cheap labour and the other is exclusivly made in canada...unless if u compare the MIJ with all the japan made components with the naked and famous then it make sense....

and unless u mention about the made in japan evisu's, but saying about the awesomeness of the made in maccau evisus? i have nothing to say =) i dont care about the quality or cost...craftsmanship comes first before all that smile.gif


Added on March 13, 2011, 2:32 pm
QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 10 2011, 10:46 PM)
kotmj never goes near anything that is overpriced
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and u mention about never going close to over price? the naked and famous is not that over price but evisus here are way much over priced!! hahahaha tongue.gif the stuff at bread and butter are way too over priced and are considered as ripped off....those price are for purely made in japan ones...not for the maccau or european made ones...

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post Mar 13 2011, 02:43 PM

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i am looking at retiring my nudie tfdoee after wearing it for a year. apc has been in my list but too bad the apc ps doesn't fit me that well. maybe another thin finn but not organic denim?
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post Mar 13 2011, 03:01 PM

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get the normal finn dry stretch...that never fails =)
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post Mar 13 2011, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(treflip @ Mar 13 2011, 03:01 PM)
get the normal finn dry stretch...that never fails =)
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that's exactly in my mind! but, another nudie?
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post Mar 13 2011, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Mar 13 2011, 04:02 PM)
that's exactly in my mind! but, another nudie?
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Maybe naked and famous?
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post Mar 13 2011, 07:01 PM

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First of all, Uniqlo is known for its affordability, that is why it is much cheaper than N&F. And I mean cheap and affordable as cheap and affordable - no other meaning. Money-wise.

People start judging cheap = "cheap" and lower quality. That may be true, I don't know, cause I haven't felt or tried one on before. Second thing is, Uniqlo usually make their jeans with 11-12oz denim, which can't take any beating, it's like wool trousers. You'll have to baby them if you still wanna be wearing that 3 years from now. To have lifetime lasting jeans you need to go for anything like 14oz and above denim from manufacturers that have proven it - SugarCane, IronHeart, TripleWorks and maybe LVC (not sure how well Levis Vintage Clothing do on toughness).

They will be stiff as hell, but will wear in very well. They will take rough wear much better than Uniqlos. One thing about Uniqlos is that they are super thin - for selvedge denim standards. I don't know if they do really go through the hassle of giving it tighter weaves to make it a true strong selvedge denim, because from all accounts I've read, they seem to be damn thin and wears out after 1 year (of almost everyday wear).

But I've never found N&F impressive. I tried two on. Both fits didn't impress me. The quality didn't impress me either. Felt paper thin, but stiff. Thin but stiff wtf.

Cheap Mondays were named the way they were for a reason - to be affordable. They gave people who don't want to drop 500 dollars on jeans, a lifeline.

But after all's said and done, different people go for different stuff. We all earn different dough, some of us are more willing to cough up more dough for shit we think is beautiful to us. Like well, Uniqlos are good for summer-all-year-round Malaysia, so its all good.


Added on March 13, 2011, 7:05 pmGood shit I found.

http://www.thedenimdoctor.co.uk/3.html

I don't know what hell these people go through. Jeez.. that's crazy to be able to break jeans like that just by wearin it plain n simple. And so many people break their jeans until there was enough demand for someone to go around in a Mini Cooper being a denim doctor. These little things make this world a little weirder and more exciting everyday biggrin.gif

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