i size down 1 on n&f skinny guy broken twill, quite skinny fit,a person as skinny as me have a bit problem with the very small room for your weener. better stay tts if you have a regular leg size.

stretch is very subjective, what u describe as 'stretch a lot' may means 'stretch a bit' to others. what u do with ur jeans, how is the looks u want will also determine ur sizing choice.

different model from one particular brand will also determine how is the sizing should goes. in the end, its a process of try & error, luck and gamble. u can only read in the web for guide and example purpose, not an exact rule of thumb especially if youre planning to buy online.

wash and the colour will fade, but thats not a point of wearing raw denim. u want contrast, honeycombs and whiskers. wash it too early and it wont come out, the fades will be even through out the denim.

thats why you wear it without wash for a long period of time, to stress on some particular area and make it personal.

big picture



Just that as of now, the new batch which is made in japan. Chainstitch hem, back rise, around the waist, inseam, along the belt loop. Can't wait to see wether the roping effect will appear

So chainstitch is good for the fades and stronger, but I heard it can easily unravel, or no?

The feel is more rigid and does not feel cheap, like nudies(perhaps bcus of the weight?) Or my current n&f skinny guy.

The size is 29, feels a bit loose. Easily button up. Asked kiya and he suggest never go below my tts. Will hot soak help much? It is sanforized



This post has been edited by apsidewatch: Mar 4 2012, 08:17 AM

sorry, idk that the size would be that big, posted using mobile phone.

well, im not in the position to talk about the diff, never saw the australian made duke hands on. but they replaced the 'x' stitching at the back pocket with hidden rivets.

back to my current pair, cycled around the city yesterday. in the cold, windy, rain for a whole day. it is all damp, and the middle back of it is all wet since the water from tyre got splashed due to no mud guard attached.

wash what?still too early, just aired it up using a standing fan overnight.

soon bro, havent got time to take pictures. i only store it in the drawer, currently busy to settle down here with accommodation, study and stuffs. to add up the cold, irregular, rainy weather here i cant even soak it since cant dry it properly.

Proceed cautiously from here, lots of big detail pictures

Fit pictures, easily button all up. size according to kiya, he suggest me to stay tts at most.




should i soak it before 1st wear? hot or cold soak? i could really use a slimmer fit for my duke.



compare to my current n&f, its kinda roomy. started 1st wear for nf with a very tight fit.

ill try it tomorrow, thanks


isnt it? thats my first thought when i put them in. but yeah i could really use more space, this n&f is a bit small for me.

im looking for a less skinnier fit right now.

@treflip, how do u size on ur duke? i asked kiya and he recommend tts. and i need some poison for ur fit pic and current fades. its been awhile since u post it.

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Added on March 6, 2012, 5:45 pmdo a xpost with imperial thread at sufu and got a response from kiya. this is what he has to say:

This post has been edited by apsidewatch: Mar 6 2012, 05:45 PM

international shipping can goes up to 3 weeks, check which courier revolveclothing use. selfedge use usps, 6 days to reach here.

the area where i got the most fades, will take a close up pictures of it.


avoid contact with water and keep it dry. damp and wet raw denim will transfer the indigo.

Can't see the point of buying many pairs if u can't commit to break them in, well unless u are storing it for the future.

@shiningace , shouldn't u be wearing it hard?

Story of 3 months of my life on a pair of raw denim. Colours are true as in the pictures.

@harvey7 i wish i can, around 3 times a week


not much of details like i wish, but noticable


@kevin it is not deep, just indigo. this model http://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/collect...l-selvedge.html

not expecting such an awesome comment, but thank you everyone !

well, what i can say is that its been hell of a 3 months.

started slow during december 2011, just a few days out of my room. then came january, been busy to settle my visa, financial affidavit, medical check up. travelled from terengganu-kl a few times to settle all of it. in february i pretty much walk around melbourne, with that 1 pair only, no rotation. bought a bicycle, cycle to my uni which is like 5km distance, so 10km per day at least if i decide to cycle instead of using tram.

i also notice that u tend to walk a lot in melbourne, since most stores are accessible alongside the street. on the other hand, in kl u probably will drive to shopping malls.

guys, what is the color for starch?

i've just finished initial soak for my imperial and this is what it looks like after i remove the jeans



why is it turning into yellow?

Twelve apostles, the great ocean road in Australia. beautiful view, i got lots of other pictures but right now still tired.

The Great Ocean Road is a 5 hour journey where u enjoy the scenery at the road turnouts available. the last stop is Twelve apostles, london bridge and Loch Ard Gorge where u can enjoy the sunset. rather than spending your money at crown plaza casino, clubbing at federation square or shopping at South Wharf Factory Outlet, rent a car for a day and go for the ride.



half back of my imperial are wet because of the sea water, but my imperial just got a soak and only like 4 days of wear. what should i do, soak, wash or let them dry?

asked kiya again and within minutes he replied my pm and said to just let it dry.

he got my respect, to own a very reputable shop yet never been too busy to reply any pm for him, be it for a small question as mine.

guys, come on. where is your update pic? i check on this page every few hours or so, refresh for many times when i got bored during lectures.

in case u missed this, Brandon Svarc's Skinny Guy N&F. 1 year, no wash.



more pictures here http://www.tateandyoko.com/blog/?p=130

@LL u sure wearing that beast? your legs will be sweating like hell with malaysia's weather..

that 1 guy that has the good fit, u remember what is he wearing?

@xzullx u make pre-order for that trafalgar law hoodie? can i order and make the postage to melbourne?