Hi guys, I'm currently planning to continue my tertiary education in Australia. I've selected two good Universities which is UNSW and UWA.

The problem is, I'm still vague about the expenses in Sydney and Perth. Anyone studying there can brief me on this? Fees are 29k and 31k anually for UWA and UNSW.

I understand that UNSW is more prestigious than UWA but both are also good considering that they're in Group of 8 and I've pass all the requirements required by these two Unis, certainly UNSW's requirement is higher.

I come from an average family where my dad and mom are both teachers. They have lots of savings, and want me to study in Aus for 2 years. Well, if given a chance to go, why not?

People have told me that certificates don't really do much after your first working experience. So I was thinking, if I go to UWA, which is much cheaper and may be able to find a job since it's in Perth where job opportunities are vast.

So now I need to know
-the living cost/expenses
-whether is it really that important to enter a slightly more prestigious Uni

Thanks a lot

P.s. Engineering student here.

unsw....
awsome beb!
i love it:)
trust me
u never regret once u in unsw

dey, that's more expensive than studying in the UK mang

why must study aus ?

both my parent teacher, i get jpa scholarship at a private college
my aunt and uncle are mostly gomen servent also. most do their studies in MY. Furthers also is SG and 1 in russia for medic

Yes, knew that already.

Why? I never liked UK in the first place, and my parents would love to see me in Aus.

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Added on February 24, 2011, 8:23 pmOh yea, another reason studying there is to get a PR which is very hard now.

No pr, no job. Want job but got no pr. Need to break this cycle.

One method is to work in small companies where they don't require a PR and we can start applying from that.

Now if you finished studying in UK, you have to fly back to your country. That's the policy, no chance of getting a job liao

This post has been edited by papamia: Feb 24 2011, 08:23 PM

oh ya hor for new grads the visa also susah.
liek that ok lo aus.

UNSW la... ranking is higher

UWA sucks max

unless you wanna go to uni and have picnic like every afternoon

Sydney's living expenses will definitely be higher than in Perth.

But how much does it differ? If slightly then I don't mind Sydney.

Whichever you choose, just make sure your classes are loaded with chicks.

Few years back, Perth is cheaper than Sydney but I guess there's only slight difference now. Engineering student? What discipline? You might like uwa because of their motorsports team. One of the best in the world. But that's if you're planning to join.

By the way, both uni are good.

I still prefer Perth!:)

This post has been edited by thugs: Feb 24 2011, 08:36 PM

Mechanical student here.

I got severe headache liao, this whole moth I've been thinking and asking around.

UNSW is defo a better uni, but after going to every austalian major city

perth is always in my heart, but also depends on location la. get SYDNEY central and you get really really expensive shit, get a bit far and its alright

I'm in Melbourne, and I am going to assume Sydney will be similar to Melbourne.

I don't know how well off your family is, but I used to spend about AU$800-a-month.

That was because I used to live by myself, and I didn't think it was worth cooking for one person.

This year I will be living with my brother, so its more worth it to cook for two people. I guess I will be saving money by not eating out all the time.

Accommodation can vary depending on your standards, but generally I'd say about AU$250/AU$300-a-week (excluding bills) for property if you plan to live in the city, and it will get cheaper if you plan to live further away from the city.

Once again, if you have a housemate, living weekly expenses for food, etc will be cheaper. I recommend you get a housemate, as you can split groceries, utility bills, etc.

Not so sure about Sydney's public transport system, the last I went there was like 10 years ago I think, so I can't really remember.

Take it into account this is based in Melbourne, but as I said, I expect Sydney to be quite similar.

And I am not sure what it's like in Perth at all, as like Sydney, I went to Perth also 10 years ago or so.

Don't worry... No matter where you go, make sure you study and enjoy the same time!

engineering? fat chance

Oh, if you have some free time, a part-time job will be very useful, financially and also for your CV.

Working in Australia is not like working in Malaysia, the pay is actually pretty good, even for students working in McDonalds (who generally don't need to support themselves), there is a minimum wage.

It's always cheaper to stay with more housemates. Last few years when I left Perth, the average weekly accommodation per room is about $150-180 per week... Seems to be cheaper than the eastern state... Food out there I heard per meal is about $10 per meal. Of course cheaper to cook yourself:)

This post has been edited by thugs: Feb 24 2011, 08:45 PM

Alright, thanks for the info. What about the living expenses?

Oh yes, I have a friend going with me. Oh yea, for Perth, 6 or 7 people are going. but some wana stay on campus, and those are girls. For guys, let's say 3, we can share and cook together.
Already known that but thx anyway

Well, since you have friends going, if you do pick Perth with them, then do consider living together. It will save you a lot of money.

As thugs said, meals generally cost about AU$10. If you cook with friends, it can come as cheap as AU$4-AU$5 (more or less) per-person (depends on the number of people, obviously).

rent is the major killer. food give and take is about 10-15 on average per meal, transport is manageable. rent in perth when i was there was only 150 per week, that was nearly 2 years ago lar. but i remember you could get 130 and a nice place over there.

melbourne city you are easily looking at 200 ++++++, i think this is just as sydney all my mates in sydney stay far away from the city.

so again it depends on where you are at la

The public transport is cheaper in
Perth if I'm not wrong. Cheaper than other states. Not sure bout now though.

You're still willing to pay for their public transport as it's so much better than in Malaysia! Their route is well planned, their timing is just accurate!

I heard in other states students get concession prices for public transport, even international students.

In Melbourne, international students don't get concession, unfortunately.

Alright, now I get the idea.

But can anyone answer my previous question?

Okay la I give a senario.

The employer receives two application, one is from UNSW 2nd upper class and another one is UWA 2nd upper class.

Which one whill he choose?

Yep, that's what I know as well:)

It doesn't really matter cause both are top 8. Furthermore, they'll train you to be professional engineer. Both will get you job. Perhaps first class would make you get a better job? Not depends on the uni

makes no real difference,

heck if you going to come back and work, any of those two would hold significant value d. lol

if you plan to work there, tehn well change your name to something like : John Smith first la



This post has been edited by +3kk!: Feb 24 2011, 09:33 PM

brb calling my dad

lol papa i cant believe u asked in /k/ n no one trolled u. i jelly u liao

NSFW

dupe sapa nih?

Anyways, most probably made up my mind. UWA lah since my parents aren't that loaded and I have one more younger bro.

I hope that he gets a scholarship since he's a top student. I iz regret liao not studying well during high school.

My main concern is cost now. Worried for my parents too, they're not young anymore and have to sell shares/property to support me.

Lolololol all chinky towns.

i aint no dupe but im asking opinion in education essential but little response

Tasmania lang

why all aus. no love for the uk? =(

Btw, Tassie is the best.

UNSW...

What is University of Tasmania famous of?

There fewer asians, thus easier to get PR?

I have been based in both WA and Sydney, I'll tell you that if you're going for cost-efficiency, WA is waaaaaaayyyyy cheaper than Sydney. UTAS only if you're doing law, but it's quiet there. Fewer asians or not, doesn't matter. Your application for PRship is dependant on your course and what not, nothing to do with population. I've calculated, during my time in UNSW, my expenses were 1.5 times of that in WA, and i was staying at some broken down shitty suburb area and I stayed in a closet (literally. my room was converted from a closet). In WA, i have a decent room. Food and groceries also much much cheaper. The only thing UNSW has over UWA is probably UNSW's night life is waaay better. Education recognition wise, both are about the same. Doesn't really matter where you get your degree from these days anyway.

Tasmania is famous for nothing,well maybe for their I don't know ... marine sciences? You should totally go for UWA rather than UNSW,Perth is cheaper plus I guess both the Uni's are on par with each other

If you had to choose Aussie, go for UNSW. There's only a handful of good unis in Aussie.

I love you guys in a non-homo way.

Gonna meet up with UNSW and UWA representatives soon. 1st and 3rd of march in ss15.

but but you're in uk

yeah. and im glad I didn't ended up with a limbo state macam some aussie uni. once you get there and start to socialise, you'll get what i mean.


why didn't you apply for UCL or Sheffield for engineering?

This post has been edited by Balaclava: Feb 24 2011, 10:36 PM

Tasmania famous from law. Our own hannah yeoh graduated from there.

Btw, Perth has Johnkor.
NSW is chinky.

fun fact: aussie grad lawyers often get despised by uk grad lawyers. sos from few loyars i personally knew and some based on personal experience.

Can't disagree with that. Law programmes wise, UK is still superior to that of Aussie. In fact, no one really goes to Aussie to study law. You're much better off doing an external programme back home or even local U (if you can get in la).

^ but you see alot uni in malaysia twin to aussie. ~.~

that's where they earn profits from future broke lawyers

I'm not that good. Sheffield only allows 1+3 and you gotta have some amazing results like cgpa 3.7 ang above to get over there.

I'm definitely out that league.

What's wrong with em aussies?

supposedly 'easier' to get in. supposedly 'cheaper' than uk, and then theres the exchange rates n PR issue. but thats in the old days, now uk cheaper n better.

papa, manaada, my adik now also applying for sheffield as we speak liao. u want go sheffield headopis in damansara ask mou?

@tee:

Aussie is fine for sciences,it's just that UK is supposedly cheaper than Aussie right now,as long as you study/stay somewhere OUT OF LONDON,it'll be fine. And there are a handful of good Universities out of London. The top UK universities by subject <---- Search for the list of top Universities in UK by subject,as for Mechanical Engineering,the top 10 Universities are all outside of London if I'm not mistaken besides Imperial College.

Uk 3 years engineering degree not recognized by BEM and IEM if you're thinking of coming back. You'd need to get a master degree of another year on top of the 3 years degree if you want to get recognized.

Perth no doubt.

Unless you're doing some artsy degree like English Literature, you're pretty much guaranteed a two-year visa after graduation. If you get a job within two years you can get your employers to sponsor long-term visas.
It's quite hard to be out of the league of most UK universities. You pay 3 to 4 times the local students and they like that money. They'll bend requirements to accept you and they trust that Asians will work their asses off to make up the difference.

people who studies in UCL for engineering is because they cannot get into imperial. I am one of them.

anyone know whats the CGPA require for UNSW in this year? and whats the next intake for it?

to be frank, both also rubbish uni.

i have a bucketload of friends going for sheffield even they got offer from imperial. weird.