sorry for the very late reply...
before reply to anything... i would love type a little bit more essay.
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i join this new company on January2011. on 1st of January, i thought is a 1st day of new year, i should be with my gf. so i went to look for her, and she brought up an argument that very same/similar to the argument she brought up on my 2010 birthday which falls on November. 3rd of Jan is my 1st day of entering office, and i can remember clearly that particular week, i still very moody and unhappy with the argument that she brought up, which is suppose to be a small case. so base on this, i suppose the early stage of January 2011, im still love my gf and as for my colleague, she gave me a good impression, but i dont feel much special feeling towards her. and eventually me and my gf solve up the issue between us on 1st jan, and i've no clue how, but my feeling towards my colleague grows as well. so... does this count as crush? i wrote crush coz i thought it is easier to type and say... is this lust? it can be, but im unsure.
and i can understand i type bloody hell long essay.
appreciate those who read it finish and giv constructive comments, and those who didnt read it finish and comment like they are mr.knows-everything/mr.love-doctor/mr.justice please just get a life, you don't have to reply here. just move on with your life, this is something happens everyday on the earth, and it is just that im the one type my problems out... if u feel like commenting, pls read it throughly before comment. else it is pretty pointless to read ur comments, u are just like a clown to me.
someone's reply here makes me feel that he/she is like been kena dump by his/her bf/gf always, thus keep saying things that seriously make me sickening and kinda obvious he/she is either nvr read up my story fully or he/she just fail to comprehends the story of mine... i might be right, and i might be wrong about him/she. but seriously, get a life... and move on, u don really have to reply here if u dun wan too. don hav to rant ur anger here even though my situation might be similar to someone put u into such miserable state over and over again...
also for those who said im a playboy, take my gf like a clothes etc, cincai say break with my gf easily, cincai dump my gf, etc etc...
u might or might not read finish my story fully... but let me put it straight and clear... lets not talking about the fact that i had a crush on my colleague, the only biggest mistake i made is to tell her that i had a crush with another girl. i could handle the thing more maturely by hiding it from her and only tells her when i really make the decision. but maybe due to my low EQ, she kind of notice i had a problem and she asked me constantly, and i just told her honestly... it is not easy too for me to be honest to her. and if god put me back to the point when she asked me? i might really consider to hide from her... but with my character and attitude? i guess end of the day i still choose to tell her honestly. i just dont feel right to be with her and think of another girl. i feel the guilt just doing a bit of this. every individual has their own personality and characteristic, u might think choice of hiding from her is the right one. and yes, i think it should be the right way too, but sometimes each individual characteristic and personality takes into account too....
BUT the thing is, i never wanted to leave her. i chose her, in fact everytime she ask for break, i tried to patch back. i've no freaking clue why yall people think i take my gf like a clothes, im playboy etc... i can understand she asking break with me, im not saying she shouldnt say break with me. but with all the questions and things happens around (not sure if yall read it all on my topic), break, patch back, break patch back case keep repeating... her family misunderstood as she told her family only partly here and there. even when she say break to me, her family knows we 2 break, but they never know it is her that says break to me. etc... on the very last patch back, i just feel... emptiness. i dont feel a thing. i've no clue if i still love her or not at that point... and seriously, i just couldnt accept myself for thinking other girl when being with my gf. same goes to me, if my girl would think of other guy when being with me? i wont feel good either. so i guess ultimately, it is the guilt that makes me tell her honestly. and now im in much bigger guilt. u think leaving her been easy job for me? HELL NO, i feel the guilt too. but if being with her keep thinking others, it is totally pointless... different individual has different perspective. u can say im wrong, u can be right, can be wrong too. but sometimes things is just subjective. if yall still think im a play boy, i take girls like a clothes etc? just go ahead. she is my 2nd gf that i recognize and never i want to make it this way. neither do i see this gonna happen.
QUOTE(karmakid @ Feb 24 2011, 12:29 AM)
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3 years a long time..if u let it go now because of uncertainty, how sure are you it wont happen the same with your colleague? like u say, love is sweet in the first place, and it will tone down.
she is as confuse as you. frustrated, lack of confident, and probably saying words like "let's break up" against her heart..just wanna see your response.
i think both you and her been through few times break up until both also quite tired... i guess now you are more feeling independant because u have a colleague for you to fall next. but if it doesnt work out, chances are you might regret this decision in future.
personal opinion, talk back to your gf. open your heart again with her. probably can even show her this thread. tell her u r insecure too and frustrated. come to a compromisation. go for a week vacation together. tell each other what's yes and what's taboo word not to bring up anymore.
then only decide if it's "unpatchable" and at least both of you give it one last chance, but not the kiddish breakup phrase.
i've been through similar phase, so i know how it felt. so hope tis can clear your head abit. if you already have some answer in your head what to do next, then all the best.
i can feel that u been through this similar phase too from ur reply. thanks for that... i guess i need some time to really decide. im seriously scared to hurt her for another time, thus chose to be single for now. thanks again bro. and yeah, it is tiring...
QUOTE(aleluya @ Feb 24 2011, 12:48 AM)
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Don't really recommend a colleague as a gf. Doesn't apply to all but a lot of new shits will happen.
Love someone for too long indeed will make it into habit, instead, its your own fault that you have neglect life with her.
You might be just started work, but your lifestyle is going towards downhill as you never really date her, instead just casually live everyday because your mindset is wrong!
You think that you own her already. That's why. Whenever you think you own something, that's where the problems come.
i never neglect my gf before... from the very 1st day, we memang never really date on weekdays. we only come out on weekends. and maybe some certain special days on weekday. but we do have sms every single day without a stop through out the 3 years relationship (except when some little arguments come)... and i actually do calls her every here and there for some quick chat...
QUOTE(suzann @ Feb 24 2011, 12:50 AM)
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I seen a case, bf gf together 5 yrs dy, then the gf actually thinks she fall for another guy (becuz the guy closer and earn more than the bf), bf do very hard to patch back, now they r happily together again, and the relationship is even closer.
I guess u do this decision cuz u were being pressured by gf n her family. Think back, if ur gf giv u some time back then to be single for a period of time, and the family din campur tangan, will u still love her? ask urslf that.
And oh well, if in the end u chose to give her up, then stop thinking about u ruinning her life because u aledi did that. Leave her alone to forget u and find another guy. U r no more responsible for her life anymore. Don't think u r still veli importabt to her when u decided not to patch back. When u try to do sth to 'help' her actually u r doing more ruined.
Just my2cents.
god bless the couple. as for ur question, i've no clue as for now....
but ur last advise enlighten me. thanks...
QUOTE(spunkberry @ Feb 24 2011, 01:15 AM)
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Think about it this way:
Are you willing to risk your 3+ years relationship for a chance with your colleague and possibly end up with nothing?
If you are, don't regret it.
personally i feel there is a chance that me and my colleague dont even able have a start. she might not even interested in me at all. i've no clue...
not that i willing to take the risk or not, i just feel so wrong to be with my gf and thinking bout others at the same time. is the guilt. i know i unable to handle this maturely. trying hard though... kinda naive in a way... i know.
QUOTE(n00b13 @ Feb 24 2011, 01:45 AM)
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You are quite teh stupid.
I'll tell you how stupid you were. When you started having feelings for your colleague, that's
your problem. You should have solved your problem on your own. But when you told your girlfriend about it, you made it
her problem as well, and you spread your suffering to an innocent person. If you wanted to, you could have broken off with your gf to pursue your colleague, and yes, that would hurt your gf. But what you did hurt her even
more, for a
longer time.
And there's another way in which you are teh stupid. You had a 3 years' relationship, and you jeopardized it for a
colleague? You've never made a move on her, she didn't try to seduce you, she has no idea how you feel about her, she doesn't know a thing about all your drama? She might as well be the kakak behind the counter of the cafeteria where you order lunch every day.
This is what you fall for? For
this you ruined a 3-year relationship?
My aunt changes car every few years. My dad thinks she's quite foolish and wasteful. My dad is right. But a car is not a girlfriend, which means you are even more teh stupid. 3 years hancur just because got new pretty face in the office. As if girlfriend is like car, bored already want to change new one.
I'll give you credit for one thing - you had the balls to break off with your girlfriend. Because your problem should not become other people's problem. Too bad you did it too late, after you've already hurt her badly. So now, I suggest you learn to
solve your own problem before you get into another situation in which you might hurt other people.
(And frankly, I'm not very impressed with your ex-gf either. I can't respect a girl who begs a guy to love her.)
u might be very harsh, and it is kinda sick to read this. but u do have a point and i do understand this. but sometimes the outcome do have to take one individual personality/characteristic into account.
and yes, i unable to handle this issue maturely in deed is my fault. thanks anyway....
QUOTE(uest91 @ Feb 24 2011, 02:03 AM)
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人就是這樣, 越得不到的東西就越想得到
( Human is like this, when you couldn't get something, you want it badly )
Once you get it, you will feel like " Awww I got it like this, Well, I'm going for another one.
That explains why you feel NOTHING when your exgf begging you to stay.
Crush vs Love, do you want to risk ? But I can tell you 99% you WILL regret for choosing your colleague.
And the reason why you fall for your colleague because you meet her EVERYDAY, but you gf only on the weekends.
Gf is a awesome girl and will be a great wife but you dont marry someone because of that, you marry or be with someone because you LOVE her.
I guess the only way for both of you to settle this is,
Get away from all these sh*ts, go somewhere FAR away, a vacation.
A vacation = at least a week, not those 3 days 2 night trip.
You will get your answer in this period.
If you think it's not neccesary to do that or you decided to end this relationship, then stop think about your gf's future.
Whether she's happy or not, it's none of your business, you are the one who choose to left her and end this 3 years relationship.
The more you concern about her, the harder for her to move on and has a new life.
Stop distrubing her.
Otherwise, do something if you really love her.
And please be prepare after both of you decide to get back together, you will need to work EXTRA hard to build back this relationship and the trust between both of you.
She will be 24/7 insecure.
Relationship is like this, it goes up and down, if you can overcome all these problems, she's the one for you, you're the one for her.
no... i don think i hav that kind of feeling in this issue...
regarding ur perspective of marriage, it can be vary depends on individual. in my point of view, sometimes u don get to marry with people you love, but people that love you instead. sometimes you marry people due to responsibility, regardless accident pregnancy, long term relationship feeling guilt to leave etc... and also... most importantly at the late age of a human, people just need a companionship. someone that can talk, hav topic, able to live together happily will do... it can be vary...
appreciate for your suggestion. thanks a lot...
QUOTE(sairento @ Feb 24 2011, 02:29 AM)
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For some reason, both of you need some break. its seem that you both chat everyday.
why dont you give some space for you and her. let her clam down and let you think which is better?
3+year relationship or just meet up colleague? you never know ur colleague might "kill" ur feeling later?
3+years relationship is about trust and understanding. Both of you have build a strong relationship and went thru many road.
an idea for you. u dont think of ur ex or ur colleague. be single for few days and see what will happen. you will know what and who u really need when u need someone to talk to. Who will be by ur side when u in trouble or emotions?
good luck in ur few days single. decide what ur heart said and try ask urself too. =]
exactly what im thinking. but probably few days wouldnt be enough for me. im not sure... but thanks.
QUOTE(jason83 @ Feb 24 2011, 03:29 AM)
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Friend, me cannot sleep so I will share with you my advice, take it or not up to you la k?
You see, relationships have a cycle. You start with the attraction - your heart beats faster, you feel really happy seeing her, can't wait to see her again etc.
Then you start going for holidays together, learning about each other, first arguments start but still happy.
Then as time passes, your chemistry, or sparks, or watever that thing is called that makes your heart beats faster, starts to fade.
At this point of time, seeing her becomes like a chore. You feel like there are more important things like work or friends or yum cha or games or sports than her.
And then when you see other girls you start to have this feeling again, the chemistry and sparks and you think you don't love your gf.
This is a common scenario people experience, and thinking that you don't love your partner anymore but instead you love that new girl is a common mistake made by many.
Sparks and chemistry aren't meant to last forever. Nobody says a relationship is only about sparks and chemistry. It's about living together, learning about each other, accepting each other, caring for each other.
Yes you may not have that strong feelings for your gf but from what you have written you do care for her. Ask yourself, if you do not care for her, why even bother to patch things up when she wanted to break up?
Dunno what else to say but my final advice is, even if you start with your colleague, 1 year 2 years down the road you will feel the same sh*t. Ok, you can find another colleague and start again and 1-2 years later its still the same sh*t.
Now go watch some movies like PS I Love You or Aftershock and ask yourself, do you really want to lose your gf?
Think bro, think.
Good luck to you!
Edit: Btw your post is so long respect you can write so much but you should thank me cos i read 90% of it.
very inspiring and good metaphor...
thanks a lot bro... and thanks for taking your time to read. much appreciate it.
QUOTE(4everlove @ Feb 24 2011, 04:47 AM)
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The thing with a relationship is that after sometime, it'll become 'normal'. Not much feeling of looking forward to meet each other, like someone mentioned, it've become like a chore. Updating each other what u're doing/going n then meet up on weekends. N 3 years have been like that.
TS, now u r asking us what u should do as u r currently in a confusing state of mind. It's not a confusing situation, pretty straightforward case. Gf loves u n u admit she's an awesome gf. Then a new working place with a new girl at work. If u really love your gf, if u r really devoted to her, n if u r a really loyal lover, then u won't be easily attracted to this new girl.
Your issue now is, u should ask yourself, maybe examine your past love history, r u the kind whom after sometime with a girl, will easily get attracted to another new girl? If your answer is yes, then u should know that even when u pursue this collegue and get her to be your gf, after few years, d same thing gonna happen coz u r immature in love and always want someone new.
N if u answered that no, that this is the 1st time while u r in a relationship that u r attracted to someone new, then may I ask u what about this new collegue that attracted u to her? How well do u know this collegue? U let go of a good lover, to risk pursuing someone who may or may not be your future lover, or may be your future lover but maybe not a good one. But who knows. It's a risk that u r risking.
People always see or say that the grass is greener on another side, but come on, do look at what u're having now. A good gf, she love u, and u do love her. U r just confuse. Clear up your confusion. Be back with your gf. But if u r still confuse, dun get back to her and spread your confusioness to that poor girl. She may do silly things one day if u keep forcing your uncertainty to her as u said she depends a lot on u n her family.
If u ask me, i'll go back to my great lover, and be the bestest greatest bf that i can ever be. She'll 100% be insecure with u coz of the things that u did. She'll keep repeating the past that u did towards her. N u've to work hard 110% consistenly to win back her heart and give her back the confidence that she deserve. When she repeats your past, listen to her, then assure her that past is past, tell her that u've think thoroughly n u r very sure that she's d one that u wanna live forever with. She'll still doubt it after your reassurance, then prove to her thru your action that u'll do your best to regain her confidence to u.
Action meaning, call her more, do something special towards her that normally u won't do or seldom do. Just 3 years of relationship, dun treat it like already 30 years relationship and already stale. Make it fun and exciting sometimes. Communicate more with her, go to the beach or anywhere that both of u'll enjoy. Make her happy. If u devote your heart to this relationship, think of how to make this relationship work, n stop confusing yourself about this collegue issue, then maybe u'll realise one day in d future how glad that u never really let go of this precious relationship/gf.
U can take some time to think for yourself what u really want. But just remember dun do anymore harm/hurt to your ex, for anymore salt that u throw on her wound, one day she'll be the one who leave u and dun turn back to u n that's when u really will regret.
Wish u good luck, TS.
is the guilt make me let go. i don plan to pursuing my colleague at the moment. just being single for a period 1st. i've no clue where im heading now, lost of direction.
and this is 1st time while im in relationship, im attracted to someone else. in term of what im attracted, i've no clue. it just a feeling...
neither do i wan to do anymore harm/hurt to her. thanks a lot for the reply. much appreciate it.
QUOTE(Genzyme @ Feb 24 2011, 06:04 AM)
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wow. i really can't believe i just finish reading those wall of text.
well, just ask yourself TS, is it worth to give up a three years relationship for someone you just got to know not more than 6 months.
your feelings for that colleague of yours might be temporary.
i cant believe u finish it too. respect to you and thanks for the time you spent.
i do understand what u trying to say. but the guilt holds...
QUOTE(Fowl @ Feb 24 2011, 06:40 AM)
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u should biotch slap urself many2 times whenever u think about ur college
after many times doing it ur brain subconsciously will try to block any images
of her
Added on February 24, 2011, 6:42 ami meant colleague lol
this is very entertaining.
QUOTE(Frenly @ Feb 24 2011, 07:28 AM)
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"most people might think why dont i go after my colleague, after get my colleague ady then only break with my gf... well, i find it very disrespectful towards my girl if i did that when my gf is still with me. "
I do respect.
Actually, I have a 10 years relationship been betray by my x gf ...almost similar case but i'm the victim been betray by her ...
Honestly, I agree that u give her a ring and ask for forgiveness ...
that must be tough for you. hope you are doing good now.
until the moment im clearly know that i want her, i will. thanks...
QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 24 2011, 07:45 AM)
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Too long lazy to read, but you are just a like all normal guys. Such feelings can be avoided by doing so:
1) do not contact your colleague.
2) do not fall for appearance/looks it could be quite deceiving.
3) do not anyhow think of another girl, you should have keep your mind busy with your love one and your work. I wonder how could someone else think of another girl when we have so many other problems to be taken care off.
4) from your post i can see it seems like you do not have any happy moments together... TRY to think harder i'm pretty sure for a 3 years old relationship there is loads of stuff for you to mesmerize when you are alone. At least that's what happen to me when i'm alone.
5) Your colleague is just a temporary interest so stop fantasizing and that would definitely help.
im team leader, she is under me. i have to lead, guide, teach, and communicate with her...
in term of appearance, she is just okay. not super hot, not super sexy, in fact i find someone in the office prettier than her.
fantasizing happens when my gf says broke to me. me and my gf do have happy moments. thanks for the comments. even though u didnt read it all, but your reply do have some points.
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Feb 24 2011, 08:55 AM)
Heart will say worth to give up. Logic will say not worth to give up
never i think that it is worth to giv up. but it is just feeling wrong to hav such thinking when being with my gf...
and logically, yes, logically definitely i feel not worth to giv up. but seriously, follow my heart or logic?
QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 24 2011, 09:11 AM)
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jeez...that is one whole long story.
1) I can see you love your gf so much even when you meet your colleague
2) You are not a bad guy, you just confused
3) Your should stop yourself getting attracted by your colleague adn remember you had a good gf already. Nothing could compare to your gf.
4) Ask your gf and you to restart again and promise her you would not think of your colleague again.
5) Every time you go work, just think about work and finish it on time. Work hard and earn money like a freaking busy boss.
yeah. trying to make it detail so people can judge better. sorry for being such a long story. im shocked too upon finish typing.
1- im unsure on that by now.
2- i guess so...
3- it's pretty hard...
4- i hate empty promises. but when i made up my mind clearly, i will. thanks.
5- cant, im team leader, she is under me. i have to lead, guide, teach, and communicate with her...
QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Feb 24 2011, 09:50 AM)
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Valex should not tell his gf / ex-gf about the new female colleague in his office.
if he did not tell her about it.
Valex's gf / ex-gf would not know and she will be happy.
and Valex will still be happy family with gf / ex-gf
i guess so. being handled immaturely.
QUOTE(teongpeng @ Feb 24 2011, 09:58 AM)
Actually i kinda think there is nothing wrong with TS telling his gf about his crush. He could be experimenting with honesty on a higher level involving courage to face the consequences of telling the truth, whereever that truth may lead him.
thanks for understanding bro. much appreciate it. respect for your speed reading too. notice u to be 1st to reply my topic in short period of time.
QUOTE(cracksys @ Feb 24 2011, 10:00 AM)
actually, i kinda think only pussay cries for 3 years old relationship.
i cried for 1.5 month relationship too. sorry to let u know that im pussier than u thought. but that's me.
even when i break with my current gf, i cried too. im not sure due to guilt or due to i still love her. i guess it is guilt, but i srsly unsure.
and personally i dont think it is the time length that decide whether you should cry or not, it is how much heart you pour into the relationship determine should you cry or not.
QUOTE(Drian @ Feb 24 2011, 10:04 AM)
You shouldn't have told her about the new girl. You should have just make a decision to stay with her or not. If you stay with her life goes on and if you made decision not to stay with her, breakup with her and continue on with your new gf.
my bad...
QUOTE(SPuNx @ Feb 24 2011, 10:23 AM)
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This is quite a complicated situation, I've seen people get through tight situations like this. Its a sign that you've been with your girl for too long, and its time you spice things up, or take a long holiday to rethink your views.
But always remember, whatever you do, what comes around goes around. Its a good thing that you're being truthful with your girlfriend, it quite respectable.
I've been through your situation, but the other way around. f***ing sucks, and I still have issues till now. But most importantly, you make the best of things.

thanks bro. wish u all the best too...
QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Feb 24 2011, 10:29 AM)
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u did the right thing by telling her..
u did the wrong thing by not taking time off 1st to think it through
this relationship still can be saved if both of u really want to fix it
so choice is up to u

i know... thanks... i need some time...
QUOTE(dvinez @ Feb 24 2011, 10:42 AM)
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you should not told her in the first place, even u chosen her there is still thorn in her heart.
u might think you are so great and cool, when u said u want to break first then only pursue another girl.
but to me you are not, how much time you spend with her already ? did you know her deeply in person ? if she really suitable for you ?
you are not sensible enough to play your life with, crush is a crush, go to spa club and you will have crushes.
grass always looks greener on the other side. something you dont own always better than what you currently own.
i've no clue where u get the idea that i think myself are great and cool for that particular reason.
QUOTE(yeongyunsee @ Feb 24 2011, 11:48 AM)
3 YEARS is not long..imagine you're going to spend with someone that you love for your entire life...or else do you change your wife every three years?then you have more than 10 marriages in your life
being in a relationship is different from extending the relationship into marriage.
you can compare my 3 years relationship with others 7-10 years relationship before marriage. but if speaking of after marriage (since u talk about wife), i think it is incomparable. coz that is consider different stage. when it goes to different stage, it comes with bigger commitment and responsibility. after marriage, is 1 brand new stage. giving birth the child is another stage. rising the child is another stage. do something together with ur kids is another stage. when grows old, having a companion together is another stage probably last stage.
but again, im not saying you are wrong. i do understand what u trying to say. but probably just different individual point of view.
QUOTE(TT hotmail @ Feb 24 2011, 11:58 AM)
she cant lose u..
do u stil love her?
basic question that i unable to answer by now.
QUOTE(manjanoty @ Feb 24 2011, 12:36 PM)
i have tears when i read this as i am facing this kinda situation, and having a hard time, doing my best to calm down & move on... i wish it was just a dream...
im sorry that people like me put you into such pain. trust me, i do feel your pain. im sorry...
QUOTE(@lice~~ @ Feb 24 2011, 01:48 PM)
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Well TS, I was in the same situation like you few years back ago.. my bf having "feeling" to his colleague too, jz bcoz they have a lot of similarity.. same like u, my bf did tell me the truth n of coz myself did feel something wrong before that but they jz deny it.. end up, i m the one to ask for break up since he cant make the decision.. a 4 years relationship compare to a few months old colleague.. i moved up n slowly move on by support of many of my friends.. but after few months time, he came n beg me for patch back.. of coz i keep refuse it n stated we jz friends only.. but yet he still not give up.. after few more months, we jz back together again..
all i wan to say is before u really lose her, u wont feel anything.. when really u lost it, then u jz now how to appreciate it.. give sometime to urself n ur girl too.. u will know wat to do later
i would love to say that u made the right choice to ask for break.
and im really glad that you 2 stay back together by now. may u 2 last forever and live happily ever after. god bless...
that's what im doing. thus i chose to be single and didnt plan to tell my colleague anything yet for now.
QUOTE(Warfare08 @ Feb 24 2011, 05:39 PM)
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To TS,
Whatever decision that you'll make, please think from her ( gf ) side too

it's not always about what you want, what you desire, etc.
I have been thru the situation before ( from your gf's side ) hence, be wise

i do understand your point. thanks though...
QUOTE(samantha88 @ Feb 24 2011, 05:50 PM)
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just let her go, and don't you ever turn up again
she already had enough suffer
just let her family and friends to help her move on
if i were her, i'll naver take you back
it's not that you've sleep with other or any cheat
but is that i'm no longer your priority
you can't even decide which to choose, 3 yrs vs few months
the trust is no longer there...
u got the point there too...
QUOTE(L.Leo @ Feb 24 2011, 11:39 PM)
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After read all this long message, i just want to say you are a *******. Since already have such perfect gal friend at ur side why still not satisfy with what you own now. Still crush with ur colleague? Are you r guy? Dont you ever know what you do now will harm her and caused a permanent "scar" in her life?
If you cannot done ur part now better dont talk for future. You must know and understand gal each time fall in love will treat that love as her first and last love;last bf;lasting life partner. They will believe what guy say and willing to do whatever to maintain and protect the relationship. What you had done for your ex gf? When problem come just think want to excape, pressure, wan alone ...single but do you know in this relationship how much your ex gf done and sacrifice in this 3 years?
Gal is fragile and less confident in love. To maintain a relationship did u know they need to spent lot of "courage" and "thought" to fully believe her another half? Please think in this 3 years how many "courage" and "thought" had she created for fully believe on you? But what you pay her back is using a knife piercing into her heart which the most vulnerable thing in the world. You know?
As a guy, we need to make sure the one we love always in happy and peace condition. Gal need us to care, pamper, understand what they think, deliver what they want and be a "Peace Harbor" for them all the time. This is the simple plus normal things guy need to done for your lover. When you had done and understand this all you are just qualify to love them and be their bf. Dont just know to say "love you" & forgot what had promised to gal.
If you still have conscience, dont patch back. Enjoy ur new relationship with ur colleague and Let her walk out from the "darkness". She is not your cloth, not your tires,& not your replacement. If you love/care her, please dont ever n ever try to hurt her anymore. Although she now still wish you come back to her side,but before you patch back please ask urself is that you wont repeat the mistake again? Is that you really can give happiness to her forever?
I wish you can "appreciate" your new lover-your colleague as what you want and also wish ur ex gf can be cheer up a.s.a.p and forget the sadness. W.P, you are not alone. No one can again hurt you.
LeoLim
you obviously know my gf. and i personally dont think u read all these long msg. but if you did, i guess you just cant think rationally.
but ultimately i think u didnt read it thoroughly. i already said that i wont tell my colleague anything yet, neither do i will in any short period of time. and now u ask me enjoy my new relationship. please dont make yourself looks like a clown.
wanted to ignore ur reply, but i notice that u know my gf. and you seems to be very one sided, which i dont find a big issue. but by saying if i still have conscience, please dont patch back? you sounds like trying to woo her now...
and your reply is the most naive among all. i guess u think that by saying how guy should love pamper etc stuff here, might giv her a better impression of you? so you can court her easier? seriously, grow up. you dont have to do this in forum.
QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Feb 25 2011, 01:14 AM)
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You might as well cool the F down and think deeply whether you still love your GF or not. You said you love her but think deeply and be certain with that. If you don't really have the feeling toward her anymore, then stop make up with her so she can find another and hopefully a guy that truly love her. I am not saying that you are a bad dude or whatever, it's just that it's better to let her go and not hurt her in the future(In short, better now than then) if you really don't love her that much anymore, that is one way to showing love in my personal view. Hey, at least you are not a f****r that still trying to stay with her due to guiltiness but with no love because that's a waste of her time and her true feeling toward you.
Personally, I think your crush over your colleague is more of "lust", which is errr...short term desire drive or something like that. "Lust" goes away very quick and you might regret that afterward. Thus, you better think deeply.
im considering to be the f***er u said. yes, i feel the guilt, and partly that is what makes me wonder here... but of coz, i'll need to make sure even i patch back with her due to guiltiness, i have to giv her my best. else it will be meaningless.
im not sure is it lust... not yet.
QUOTE(CKW008 @ Feb 25 2011, 10:17 AM)
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fall for ur colleague.. love or lust? find it out...
human always wanted more and better.. end up losing more and becoming worse..
cant help u.. blame urself for everything that had happened.. but still we have to live on.. good luck
thanks...
QUOTE(ryanz @ Feb 25 2011, 11:37 AM)
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Just to share a 2cent of mine on this issue. Human sometimes cant be able to differentiate between love or lust. Is this love or is this lust ?
Well from my observation i think you still have a second though of your ex-gf. Its good to share everything with each other without hiding something but
sometimes it can be the other way round in-order to not make the partner worry or think too much.
Seriously sometimes when you have it you dont appreciate it but when you dont have it anymore you will regret. So think wisely on the consequences before
doing on something. I think when you have a good gf that treats you good and nice appreciate her dont wait till you lose her then only contemplate about it.
Well i would say what goes around comes around, its a cycle. Been there & tried it.

cheers
thanks for the advise.... i do understand the ball is round.
QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Feb 25 2011, 11:44 AM)
ur gf has been with u for 3 years. treasure her.
I understand man being man, u will get have temptations to want something new. Stand your grounds if you really love her. New toys always look good in the beginning. Crushes are temporary, love is permanent.
When she is gone, you will regret. You have a choice now. Be thankful. There are others who were never given a choice.
im not sure if this is consider temptation on new things... i srsly need some more time to really giv my mind clear of what i want.
This post has been edited by Valex: Feb 26 2011, 03:30 AM