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Shyuejer
post Oct 25 2013, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 25 2013, 07:26 AM)
Actually, most people graduate from US high schools knowing much more than the average A-Level student. Since they have the freedom to choose their subjects in high school, it's common for them to take Advance Placement or even university level classes while in high school. Personally I did math for my first two years so I did see freshman who had already taken 2 years worth of university level math in high school already.

So actually a determined student can complete their degree in two years if they wanted to. I switched majors in my 3rd year and actually took about 1 year to complete all the necessary classes for my new major.

Why do people spend 4 years there? They don't overload classes and do research, summer internships, community work, attend conferences or company presentations.

Hence a graduate there would already have 2 years of internships if he was on a career path and 3-4 years of research experience if he was on a research path.

It's also no unusual for them to take 1-2 years break after college. Some build up their credentials, some do Peace Corps, Teach for America etc.

It's very different there. They care about what you have done and can achieve rather than nonsense people here care about like how you look like(no one attaches pictures in their resume, job or college applications), your major (you can be a philosophy major and join an investment firm), your age(I've never seen an age limit in a job application there).
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Hey there it's me again with more questions, hope you don't mind answering ...

Currently I have a decent SAT score(slightly >2000), and haven't take SAT II yet, I considered applying for EA / ED however more of those schools who have these offers are on CommonApp and typically the deadline for application is Nov 1 ... Any recommendation for me if I don't wanna do SAT II at all? Can I still get into one of the good unis ?

In another thread I didn't list what's my major gonna be, erm it's actually Economics biggrin.gif I really admire people like Robert Schiller / Paul Krugman / Joseph Stiglitz reading their work and from reading many other titles written by economics journalist I find this subject way more deeper and interesting than what I learn in A-level currently.

The thing is most good unis(Yale, UChicago) are private ones and they are so expensive to attend rclxub.gif To begin with I don't have any scholarships yet, and my budget is likely to be around 350k for the entire study. I've been thinking about cheaper ways to go to US - 1) Go to a community college and transfer 2) Go to public unis (Wisconsin-Madison or Minnesota Twins) either directly or via transfer from another public u - and try to finish the study within 3 years if I cannot secure any scholarship next year.

Any suggestions for me who wants to save n' still go into a nice econs school? Also is A-level grades generally available for credit transfer in universities, try looking it up but to no avail.(Kinda regret doing A-levels instead of ADTP sweat.gif ) Next thing of course is how to look for a scholarship when public unis are relatively more stingy than their private counterparts? My friend is trying Stanford's ED and he requested no financial aid, presumably to have a higher chance of getting in, but is it advisable to place such a huge bet, since there's a legal bind on his admission ?


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post Oct 25 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 25 2013, 08:21 PM)
Well tbh, 2000-2100 is on the low end of for the best schools. You might get into to the likes for Yale, MIT etc with a very strong extra-curricular. I don't really know how much weight ED adds to your application since the statistics are rather vague on that. Whether you can send in your SAT 2 scores late or not depends on the school too. And remember for schools of Yale level, everyone probably has a full 800 on their SAT 2s.

Good public schools like U Chicago, U Illinois, U Michigan etc take in more students thus have a wider range of admission, but you won't get a scholarship. Seriously you won't. You might get a few grants here and there that won't amount to much. They aren't any cheaper either.

It's extremely unlikely that you will get into Yale level schools by transferring halfway.

You'll need 50k USD a year for tuition, 12k for living. I've written alot of cheaper routes to US, don't feel like rewriting them today.

Harvard and Yale might not give you credit for A-Level, but I think most others will if you got As. Gotta speak with the actual person incharge of the credits.

If your friend can afford the whole 4 years at Standford why not? If he can't, well I think he should be able to weigh pros and cons if he is aiming this high. I've written quite alot about what I think is important about undergrad and graduate education if you need more information to make that call.
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Well I have done my research and I knew that's the low end too, that's why I wasn't really aiming for Ivies but rather public unis. What I wanna confirm is whether that transfer from one public uni to another is simple n has higher chance than going to a community college firstly ?

The thing is my friend only thinks about getting offer first and hunting scholarship later but do you see all the stanford freshman getting corporate scholarships/ JPA? Frankly speaking I think he hasn't thought of the consequence of choosing ED thoroughly enough even though I told him the risk at stake. On the other hand, is expecting corporate scholarship/ JPA to cover the tuition fees a realistic approach?

Anyway can pls u brief me those cheaper routes to US smile.gif Or post any links here.

PS : Do you volunteer for USAPPS before ? Just curious.
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post Oct 25 2013, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 25 2013, 08:51 PM)
The fees at another public uni wouldn't be much cheaper, plus I don't think it will make your chances higher to transfer between equal level school. I don't see any problem transferring from a community college to a public school. Just maintain the exceptional results and make sure your SATs and TOEFL is still valid.

JPA has changed their system lately. I'm not too sure what the chances are of getting sponsored if he got into Stanford.
Private sponsorships are there, but again, 800000/48 is giving 16000 a month to someone to study. Even with a bond of 7 years, that's almost paying the guy 10k a month to work. Will a Standford undergrad bring in more than 800000 value to the company over 7 years? And he's tying himself to a major and to a company here. If that's the price he is willing to pay for an education than it's worth it.

You can read up this whole US thread and some of my other posting.

And yea I've been at that event beforeĀ  smile.gif
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There's this Southern Illinois Uni which offers in-state tuition fee to existing Sunway students, so I'm considering it. Have heard about the community colleges being overcrowded and experiencing decline in students successfully transferred. Getting in a 4-year uni is going to be hard isn't it sweat.gif ? Still gotta hear more about that when the school rep comes on the following Monday for presentation @@

Again thanks a lot on your comment above. Definitely will dig up all the useful info here page by page.



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post Oct 28 2013, 02:09 PM

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Hey there, if I'm going to enter a uni after I have completed A-levels am I a transfer students / freshman ?


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