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post Oct 2 2014, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(LesAffreux @ Oct 2 2014, 03:25 PM)
I'm actually from INTI's AUP. Applied to Penn State University Park, Wis-Mad and Minnesota Twin Cities. So far got accepted to Penn State and still awaiting replies from Minnesota and Wis-Mad. Depending on my SAT results in November, I might apply to some of the more difficult schools as a freshman (although honestly, I'm so tired with the whole application process).

YES. I feel you for the financial aid part. And honestly it is so ridiculously expensive to apply to the States. The online application fees, courier fees and TOEFL delivery fees all add up to a ridiculous amount. Common App alone is already a whooping $75 for UMich. But if I'm not mistaken, there's an Opportunity Fund from MACEE which will pay for all the costs of applying. I could be wrong though.

Pressure is good  smile.gif. It keeps you on edge and pushes you to achieve your dreams.

Which schools said they wouldn't accept SPM though? I've had so many bad experiences with the admissions counselors who reply emails. Sometimes you have to really push your case about SPM being your final highschool transcript. But it's all good since you're taking A levels.

All the best with the SATs and A levels! Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any questions about US universities and I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge smile.gif
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What are you planning to study though? I'm guessing engineering or somewhere in the science field?
So how did you do on your SAT's? Mind telling me your experience? How long did you study for it?

I KNOW RIGHT! They have amazing schools and there is so much opportunity after graduation and they seem worth it, but they are so god damn expensive!!! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif And lately the dollar has been super strong, that would totally act as a major drag.

I just, really REALLY REALLY want to go to NYU, so much as to thinking about it everyday! (Law of attraction b****ez cool2.gif )

NYU wouldn't accept them, I can tell ya that, I think UMich doesn't accept them also, note that i am applying for their business school so admissions requirements may vary. I haven't really asked the rest of my list of target schools, but I'll update you as soon as I can. And I don't really want to apply with my SPM, because I know it will suck (not as good as those crazy 11A students), and A Levels, while would be like high school, gives me a new start, in subjects I actually like and have interest in, not stupid science. A Levels should be safe right? I mean its truly international.


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post Oct 2 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(LesAffreux @ Oct 2 2014, 04:39 PM)
I'm studying Economics  smile.gif. Surprise, surprise! Although I'm actually considering a double major or a minor in Math. I haven't sat for the SATs (heh, puns) yet, I'm sitting for it on November 8th. I'll definitely let you know how it goes! Right now I'm trying to juggle between SAT prep and my college courses sad.gif. So honestly I don't think I'm going to do that well.

Don't worry, if you get into a very good school there will be scholarships. Work hard to make your NYU dreams come true!

Ah, no worries! But do your best for SPM because you'll still  have to send your SPM results when you apply. Don't worry, A-levels is very safe, and you'll get some credits transferred from it too.
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Hey, that's what I'm going for too! What did you study in your A Levels then? Econ, math and business studies possibly?

Oh alright , what books are using to study then? And how long did you take to study the SAT's?

I hope so! I read on collegeboard that their average financial aid is about 31,000, I can't say for sure if it applies to international schools though.

Yeah I'll try my best but I'm sure I won't get past 5A's sad.gif
I'll look for more information regarding credit transfers
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 2 2014, 05:17 PM)
Wow! You can predict your future? shocking.gif

Can you control your destiny to get all B's?
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No its because I study in a Chinese private school and I have to take care of both syllabus', so its impossible for me to get that many.
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 2 2014, 06:43 PM)
Isn't the same method to solve ax² + bx + c = 0 applies to both UEC and SPM? unsure.gif
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If SPM only consisted of just math I wouldn't be worried now would I? sweat.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(LesAffreux @ Oct 2 2014, 07:04 PM)
Nope, I'm in INTI's ADP/AUP program. I didn't take A levels, heh.

I'm using the blue book from collegeboard. Been studying for around half a month. I have a month left until my test date sad.gif.
I think you will, don't worry about it too much! Just do your best smile.gif
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Oh right.... sweat.gif

Yeah I've heard that the blue book is fantastic, did you order it online? I was also looking to get the college handbook, you know, to look over colleges, possibly to consider new ones.

Thanks! notworthy.gif tongue.gif cheers.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 2 2014, 09:56 PM)
Basically, you feel overwhelmed by the number of exams you need to face, and not by the difficulty of the subjects.

The point I'm trying to make is that if you are competitively good at a subject, then naturally you can do well in both UEC and SPM. Just like Newton's Laws apply everywhere on Earth. The laws do not change whether you are sitting for UEC or SPM. Anyway, have confidence in yourself. You can definitely get more than 10A's in combined exams. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I get what you mean and I appreciate that, but I am pretty sure that I can't get all A's, I don't even have 10 subjects!
And I'm going to skip senior 3 and UEC altogether so that's pretty much out of my mind rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 2 2014, 10:40 PM)
Hi,

Yup, because I was expecting myself to go to uni right after my A-levels, unfortunately I did not get any offers.

I am not sure how the Chinese vernacular school culture is, but in my high school being friendly with teachers was pretty common. Just joke around while maintaining good grades, sounds weird but seems to work haha. My lecturers were very nice, some even came to college at night to tutor us during exam period.

Well, just try your best, I am sure you will do alright.  smile.gif

I went to TCSJ, so I can only speak for that. The co-co activities are pretty abundant, and have a wide variety as well, just pick wisely. Those stuff you said also help, a little goes a long way, just don't do them at the expense of your studies.

NYU is really good, but living costs might be a bit steep, so it is your call in the end, the others I am not so sure. I will be applying to UTAustin as well! I don't wish to see you there as I hope you get a spot in NYU.  tongue.gif

There are no UK styled "personal statements" for US apps as far as I know, it is usually all essays. It is fine, you can source English tutors outside and have them give their opinion on it, albeit with a fee. Understand this, there is no shame or waste in paying someone experienced to spot-check/give feedback to you, that money spent could potentially secure you a spot at your desired uni. I don't think I am qualified to give you any advice on essays as I will be applying for the same intake as you, however application process wise I might be able to give you a hand whenever I can, just shoot me a PM.

No problem  blush.gif
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I thought they don't open up early decisions until about the end of August? Wait, if you didn't get any offers, what are you doing now?

We are okay I guess, we certainly do joke around with teachers, except for b****y teachers. And you must have heard about how chinese school students are not really that sociable and tend to stick with their own group? Yeah thats true.

I hope so, I really do. How much of a drag do you think a bad high school transcript will be?

Yeah thats the school I'm going to. As I live in Klang, so TCSJ will be the closest one to me, and even then its about half an hour (28 mins actually) away without traffic, the Sri Hartamas one would be about 45 mins without traffic but who are we kidding, its KL, there will always be f***ing jams!
Oh btw, can you give me a few examples of clubs and orgs in TCSJ? I'm sure you still remember some?

Yeah its amazing! I went to its off-campus info session 2 weeks ago and I have never felt a stronger urge! I just HAVE to be there, and I both my parents are pretty impressed. Yeah, I'm aware, I can't really do work study because its only 20 hours per week.
That is like the nicest thing to say! Albeit in a sarcastic tone lol. I have heard great things about UTAustin though, especially its BHP, its a wall street target school ya know.

Yeah, I dunno why but UK style PS's all seem the same, bland and boring, but UK schools aren't really all that holistic anyway cool2.gif I have seen those websites where they offer tutors that teach you how to write the best personal statement possible, but its kinda pricey to be honest. I might try it though, but I'm not sure about my dad. It's okay, I need all the advice I can get. biggrin.gif

I have one extra question though, just out of curiosity, because most malaysians would go for UK or Aussie schools, what made you choose the US? And what made you ignore UK or Aus schools?
I would actually like to ask this to everyone haha because it really isn't that common to see people who want to go to the US, either the UK or Australia.

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post Oct 4 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 3 2014, 02:47 PM)
Early decision opens in November for most unis. I am now interning at a think tank.

Hahaha, well, you know the problem, find ways to make things right in college then.

I have friends from Klang who leave home at 6+am to make it for 8am classes, if that gives you an idea of the traffic. I joined Model United Nations (MUN). It is basically a society where they send you to conferences, in which you will represent a country and discuss on world issues. Rotary/interact clubs are pretty good too, just have a look during co-co day, they might have newer societies.

Well, if you have their support, I have nothing more to comment on this apart from all the best. smile.gif

Well, you might say it is bland and boring, but I see it as structured and organised. That means the context of the PS is extremely important as you are given less wiggle room to make achievements seem more impressive than they really are. As I said, this is a decision you have to make alone, I am just a stranger on the internet giving my 2 cents. biggrin.gif

From my perspective, it is because we are a commonwealth country, our professional certifications are linked (ACCA, ICAA, Bar), it is easier to find a job here should you not find one at the country you studied at. Application processes for US unis can be tedious as well, the number of essays that need to be written are proportional to the unis you apply, whereas for the UK one personal statement is all you need. The UK and Aussie unis "pre-uni" programme are widely available as courses for you to take (A-Levels, SAM/AUSMAT) as well, whereas SATS can be difficult to prep for because it is an extra study. Then again, ADP is slowly gaining traction so I believe that might change in the coming years.

I chose the US because my dad thinks it is an extremely promising place to obtain a tertiary education, and he shared his sentiments with me which got me interested.
I did apply to Aussie, as TCSJ has "ties" with most Aussie unis, so all I needed to do was to meet the requirements for my desired course, fill in form and submit. No application fee whatsoever. In terms of the UK, unless I am applying to your LSE's or UCL's (which I am wayyyy underqualified),  I don't see it worth going as I can apply to HK/Singapore, which is equal if not better than most UK unis. Mind you I am not planning to apply a science-based course, hence there is no need for good educational facilities (labs).

Cheers.  thumbup.gif
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Jesus, drove my friend back to setia alam from Klang took like 1 and a half hour!!!

Wow, which one? BCG? Bain?

Yeah I know... My cousin brother wakes up at 6 and reaches at 7 just to avoid the traffic. It is just like, really really bad. SHIT! That is such a cool club! Imma think of joining it!

I appreciate that :-)

Oh yeah, you're right. Never really thought about it that way.... But this just goes to show that UK universities are really not all that holistic, at least, far and away from the US.

Mm, I was also thinking that, it all goes down to convenience. I also think that US applications are really so frustrating and tedious, but on the other hand, I sincerely want to do my studies there and have a job there, so it doesn't really bother me that much. Annoying and tiring? Definitely. Will it discourage me? Never in a billion years.
Well, most people will say the most cliche thing, that is, I like Europe/UK better because its pretty and slow moving and all round good place to live in (COMPLETELY ignoring the economy and if it will provide opportunity), while the only perception they have of the US is guns and negative bias that doesn't even hold water =-= They always seem to forget how vast the US is, there are slow moving, nature dominating places, at the same time, busy and exciting metropolis'. Shallow asses.
Wait, I thought you're only studying it for a month? The SAT's I mean.
Is it? Doesn't really feel like it, alot of people still don't know what it is.

Your dad is absolutely right though, what did he say exactly? I'm curious haha, I mean, if you don't mind.
Hmm, yeah I guess you're right. You'll opt for the US at the end though right?
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post Oct 4 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Oct 3 2014, 10:40 PM)
nice to see this thread getting some traffic again smile.gif
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Yeap, saw that it was pretty much dead. cool2.gif
Join us rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 4 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Oct 4 2014, 12:24 AM)
I'm no longer a student though haha
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No worries, the more the merrier! Plus, you should be one of the most experienced ones here.
Where are you now?
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post Oct 4 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 4 2014, 01:21 AM)
Nope, it is called GMMF, they promote moderation through activities and deal with social issues locally and internationally.

Great! You have the spirit! thumbup.gif Try to convince some of your college friends to apply there as well, it is good to have people on the same boat as you. Well, I haven't heard anyone say that about the US, to each of our own I guess.

I am taking the November seating if that is what you meant.
Yeah, I never heard of it till I started college, but after a bit of digging it seems pretty popular as it is time and cost efficient.

It was more of an influence than a one-advice thing, so I don't think I can give you any insight on that.
Well, it depends. If I get my top choices it is a no-brainer, but if its UT Austin vs Uni of Melbourne, sigh, I don't know.  rclxub.gif
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Never heard of it but sounds like a pretty decent one smile.gif

Thanks!
I am though, I have a really wierd talent of influencing people, my friends say brainwashing, but I think its just irresistable convincing. Plus, I don't do it on purpose most of the time. Now, most people just come to me and ask right away, and I essentially recommend them, guide them and all that. I have 5 "clients" at the moment nod.gif whistling.gif cool2.gif
Well, I hear that on occasion. I dunno, they just say its not for them or something like that.

Um, no, I meant how long did you study for the SAT's, like how long did you take to feel confident?
Almost everyone in my school knows nothing about it :-/

What are your top choices at the moment then?
Go to UT Austin! I forgot what major you're going to pursue, but it should be fine there either way biggrin.gif

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post Oct 5 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 4 2014, 01:59 PM)
If you're planning to come back, you should know that there are more University of Melbourne alumni here compared to UT alumni. If you'd ask any random person, chances are they'll think Melbourne is a far better university since they hear the name often and UT is some unknown chapalang university.

I'm not even kidding. You can be from UPenn, Columbia, UChigaon, U Illinois, UCLA and they'll have the same perception too since it's unknown in this part of the world.
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As much as it pains my America-loving heart, you are right. People here in Malaysia know more about Australian and UK universities, not so for the US, unless you go to Harvard then you are fine, but if you went to Harvard there is no reason to come back here =-=
I hate people here sometimes!

I get it, I think its really sad. Those are really world class universities that bring amazing work opportunities, especially UPenn and Columbia (NYC Wall Street) UCLA (Silicon Valley). So unfair they are not getting the attention they so rightfully deserved sad.gif But well, Malaysians do tend to go to UK and Aus, unless th trend breaks, it'll be like that for the longest time.
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 4 2014, 05:45 PM)
Hi,

Yes, I intend to come back here to work, but not right after I finish my tertiary education, I want to work there for a couple years.

Of course, even by world ranking UMelb higher than UTAustin, but there are other factors such as costs of living, tuition fees, job opportunities etc.

Thanks for the advice though, appreciate it biggrin.gif
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Well, overall UMelb is higher, but by several subjects, UT Austin just destroys it completely though. And recruiting in UT Austin is super vibrant with really amazing connections, so nobody really worries about job opportunities, of course, if you're willing to work hard enough and network vigorously.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2014, 09:41 PM)
90% of people who stayed back to work in the states will not return to msia after that....

the ratio is about the same for australia...

much less for uk....
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You're right about the US, most I have heard is that they say pay is much higher, they love life there, they have more potential there and all that. Most really don't come back. Actually, I don't know anyone who came back hmm.gif

The story now is, or so I have heard, so correct me when I'm wrong, alot of people I know, cousins, friends, friends of friends, they say they have to come back to Malaysia, no choice, something about the government not wanting more immigrants over, or that jobs are hard to find.

I agree with you in UK though, not sure why, haven't actually heard a story about it.
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post Oct 5 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 5 2014, 01:08 AM)
Yup, it isn't that popular, but I am happy there smile.gif

Ahha, well, as long as you all see it through, I am sure you guys will all do well.

To be honest, I never felt confident about it, so I really can't help you here, sorry.

I plan to do accouting, which has that certification issue I mentioned earlier as I worry it might be a hassle to "port" it should I come back to work.
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Alright, um, how about, finish studying? As in finish all there is to know for the SAT's?

Ohh, right, for accounting it is a lot of work. We have different systems. It also goes the other way around, if a person has a non-US accounting degree and wants to work in the US, it is alot of work, you need to take exams and all that stuff, and then it is not guaranteed that you get to work there.
All being said, accounting jobs are so much higher pay than it is here or most of the world, why would you want to come back?
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 5 2014, 08:26 AM)
There's this mentality which makes them think they need to return asap to look after their old parents and siblings. Of course it makes more sense to stay there, earn more and bring the whole family over after a few year but they normally want to do it the other way around. I've tried to my wits end to convince my a few of my friends to stay on but they wouldn't. Maybe it's a cultural issue, I don't know.
I learned it the hard way. Wish someone told me before I blew my money in US...
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Um well, I told my mom that I will not be coming back for the longest time, only for visits and thats it. And she seems to agree with me, she said that if you are capable of staying there, stay there and don't come back, and when the time comes, she and my father will join me in the US (She asked for a warm place like Malaysia). My dad on the other hand, thinks about the same, he wants all 3 of us brothers to leave this country and never come back.
what do you mean by staying on? You mean in the US?

Yeah... But I don't intend to come back, so I should be fine. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

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QUOTE(brianlzf @ Oct 5 2014, 11:29 AM)
Thanks for the reply!

I did it June/July this year, studied about a-month-and-a-half prior to the test, and all the guidance I got was from the College Confidential forum.
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So what are your choices now at the moment?

Alright, noted! Everyone seem to have similar time frames to study for the SAT's, I hope I do get at least 2100 cry.gif
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(adk225 @ Oct 5 2014, 02:37 PM)
I'm spm candidates 2014 and i want to study law
Can someone tell me do harvard have undergraduate degree and what i should do if i want to study at harvard?

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Hi,

Unfortunately, US colleges do not offer undergraduate degrees for law. It is recommended that you take subjects like English, public speaking, government, history, philosophy, economics, and mathematics. Because you will be competing with tens upon thousands of hopefuls just like you, whether they are American or International, it is always a good idea that you enrol into a reputable school. Since, you'd like to try Harvard, that is even more important. Although Harvard is amazingly holistic and they don't mind if your school has a relatively muted brand. The secret is, you have to stand out. What makes Harvard pick you over a thousand or more prospective students?

Note that Harvard does not just look at grades. Even with a 4.0 GPA does far from guaranteeing a seat for you in Harvard, or any other top school for that matter. There are other schools that are just as good as Harvard, so don't go dead set on one, you'll definitely regret it later on.

A word of advice though, if you want to pursue law in the US, thats great! Salaries are, if I'm not wrong, one of the highest paying in the world. So, go wild! But you should know that you can't come back to Malaysia without a set of problems in your way. So think it through and prepare accordingly. Also, you'll be working your ass off smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 5 2014, 09:18 PM)
If you get a 2100, you probably want to look at someplace that's ranked higher than UT
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My first choice is NYU Stern School of Business, sir!
I am praying to all the gods available in this world that I do get in to NYU!

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post Oct 5 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 5 2014, 09:30 PM)
2100 will get you into something better than Stern. Besides, I wouldn't apply as a pre-admit to the b school if I were you.
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Stern is amazing at networking, which would really help me when I look for summer interns and all that.
What do you mean pre-admit?

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