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cheefai7
post Apr 8 2013, 01:22 PM

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Just with to share my experience for tile selection on my concrete countertop with 2x2 porcelain tiles, this is especially who is considering MML as their choice.

I have choose to use Satori White (MUP052) 2x2 porcelain tiles as my tabletop choice, where I pay my visit to their MML Gallery in PJ. When the tiles delivered and my contractor perform installation, their common practice is to use non - permanent artline marker to mark on the tiles for cutting. They were stunned by the marker mark not being to remove as soon as they want to wipe it off. More drama to it, it is so porous that pencil marking stainned the tile permanently.

I manage to make a call to the sales person and they passed the call to QC department. They advise to use Davco CTC800 solotion to remove the stain, if the solution is not working they will proceed with tile replacement. I do not have such solution (neither ACE hardware), so i made my way to the MML Gallery, and reproduce the stain using whiteboard marker, permanent marker and pencil. They having a hard time to remove the stain and failed, they say will forward this to QC dept for follow up. I wish to resolve with full refund and till now (1 day lapsed) has not response from them. Beside, I also demo the same stain and its easily removed on NIRO sample tile (GMA25).

Moral of the story, ask for small piece of sample (which I failed to do on MML) and try to stimulate the daily wear and tear before place order.

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post Apr 9 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(cheefai7 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:22 PM)
Just with to share my experience for tile selection on my concrete countertop with 2x2 porcelain tiles, this is especially who is considering MML as their choice.

I have choose to use Satori White (MUP052) 2x2 porcelain tiles as my tabletop choice, where I pay my visit to their MML Gallery in PJ. When the tiles delivered and my contractor perform installation, their common practice is to use non - permanent artline marker to mark on the tiles for cutting. They were stunned by the marker mark not being to remove as soon as they want to wipe it off. More drama to it, it is so porous that pencil marking stainned the tile permanently.

I manage to make a call to the sales person and they passed the call to QC department. They advise to use Davco CTC800 solotion to remove the stain, if the solution is not working they will proceed with tile replacement. I do not have such solution (neither ACE hardware), so i made my way to the MML Gallery, and reproduce the stain using whiteboard marker, permanent marker and pencil. They having a hard time to remove the stain and failed, they say will forward this to QC dept for follow up. I wish to resolve with full refund and till now (1 day lapsed) has not response from them. Beside, I also demo the same stain and its easily removed on NIRO sample tile (GMA25).

Moral of the story, ask for small piece of sample (which I failed to do on MML) and try to stimulate the daily wear and tear before place order.
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How unfortunate.

Another lesson learnt is extra money should be spent on tiles which have been "nano treated" or coated. It's money well invested.. especially as its Easier to clean any spills, marks stains. etc. Less porous. water also beads and it's so much easier to clean up.


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post Apr 9 2013, 01:06 PM

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Hello, guys!!! Anyone who wanna buy tiles can come to Buimaco USJ showroom, it's a 3 storey showroom & we are selling a lot of brands such as Feruni, Niro Granite, Guocera, MML & etc..if you need further information, please don't hesitate to contact me..

Company Name: Buimaco Sdn.Bhd
Contact No: James 016-286 9107
Showroom Address: No.2, Jalan USJ 21/6, UEP, 47630 Subang Jaya, Selangor.
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:37 PM

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my contractor ask me to choose tiles on 25cm to 33cm from white horse tiles,
So given a few series for me to choose, any idea what is the best?

Alsinea Series
Botticino Series
Covent Series
Ebenezer Series
Fiore Series
Loft Series
Morieira Series
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:50 PM

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How much would it cost if I would like to fully tile up the car porch area of 500 sq ft? labour + material + tiles?
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post Apr 9 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Apr 9 2013, 04:50 PM)
How much would it cost if I would like to fully tile up the car porch area of 500 sq ft? labour + material + tiles?
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I very depends on the current structure, if already got tiles, or already got stable base.
My contractor quote me bout 7-8K include white horse tiles, hacking, cut away the grass part, #A8 steel at bottom, and then cement plastering first, and final tiles on it.
I think my car porch about 20-25 feet long, 21-22 wide

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post Apr 13 2013, 07:58 PM

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Hi anybody know what is different between homogenous, porcelain and technical porcelain tiles. Which one is superb for table top. Also wonder which brand is ok white horse,guocera or MML? tq
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QUOTE(Lya1982 @ Apr 13 2013, 07:58 PM)
Hi anybody know what is different between homogenous, porcelain and technical porcelain tiles. Which one is superb for table top. Also wonder which brand is ok white horse,guocera or MML? tq
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homogenous means d tiles same colour/pattern even on d inside, porcelain tiles r harder n i think all homogenous tiles r porcelain tiles.i donno wads technical porcelain tho.from wad i gather,porcelain tiles r d best for table top.
so far i think niro homogenous tiles give me d impression that its tough.its thicker than other tiles.
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QUOTE(Dagashi @ Apr 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
How unfortunate.

Another lesson learnt is extra money should be spent on tiles which have been "nano treated" or coated. It's money well invested.. especially as its Easier to clean any spills, marks stains. etc. Less porous. water also beads and it's so much easier to clean up.
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i dun understand nano treated tiles.wad brand specifically carries them?
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 13 2013, 08:22 PM)
homogenous means d tiles same colour/pattern even on d inside, porcelain tiles r harder n i think all homogenous tiles r porcelain tiles.i donno wads technical porcelain tho.from wad i gather,porcelain tiles r d best for table top.
so far i think niro homogenous tiles give me d impression that its tough.its thicker than other tiles.
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Thanx for the info. I just heard about Niro homogenous tiles. Did you know about the price
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post Apr 14 2013, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(Lya1982 @ Apr 13 2013, 07:58 PM)
Hi anybody know what is different between homogenous, porcelain and technical porcelain tiles. Which one is superb for table top. Also wonder which brand is ok white horse,guocera or MML? tq
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guocera and MML are tough and thick enough for the table top and especially for the flooring.
guocera in general are with higher pricing.

u may try to consider MML procelain tiles if u want resilient, thick tiles, but at much cost effective way.
There're many places having the tiles on sales. Jln Ipoh tiles shops are among the good place to look for good quality tiles at good price.




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QUOTE(Lya1982 @ Apr 13 2013, 11:53 PM)
Thanx for the info. I just heard about Niro homogenous tiles. Did you know about the price
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nope sorry
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 13 2013, 08:23 PM)
i dun understand nano treated tiles.wad brand specifically carries them?
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I think MML has a range that is nano treated. I think we bought ours from there. 2 x 2.

When shopping around for tiles, we went directly to the manufacturers. they have humongous warehouses which showcase all the different types of settings the tiles can be used. Very useful in picking out a set of tiles for one room. Especially knowing which tiles are suitable for which areas.

After that.. note down the numbers of the tiles you like. and take a picture just in case you forget..

then go to the normal contractor shops and ask for quotation. (you might as well ask for a quotation at the manufacturers also.. they may give you a good price as well).

Also.. another tip I learnt from the tilers is that you should not try to stinge on cheaper lower grade tiles. Apparently tiles have different grades.

The higher the grade. A or A1?? their sizes are more uniformed. As such they will be easier to place. Especially if you are "OCD" about the gaping and size and uniformity.

As I understand, the lower grade tiles have some sizing issue. Some are bigger, some are smaller there is a few mm worth of "play" that they are allowed.

However this is what my tilers told me long ago. Don't know if it's really true anymore or not.

My wife was a bit OCD over the patterned tiles and took out each tile for inspection. those that the printing was a bit off or not so pretty, she put it one side and the nice ones she put to another side.

The pretty ones would go to the eye-level while the uglier ones would go to the top/under the cabinets.
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QUOTE(Dagashi @ Apr 15 2013, 09:48 AM)
I think MML has  a range that is nano treated. I think we bought ours from there. 2 x 2.

When shopping around for tiles, we went directly to the manufacturers. they have humongous warehouses which showcase all the different types of settings the tiles can be used. Very useful in picking out a set of tiles for one room. Especially knowing which tiles are suitable for which areas.

After that.. note down the numbers of the tiles you like. and take a picture just in case you forget..

then go to the normal contractor shops and ask for quotation. (you might as well ask for a quotation at the manufacturers also.. they may give you a good price as well).

Also.. another tip I learnt from the tilers is that you should not try to stinge on cheaper lower grade tiles. Apparently tiles have different grades.

The higher the grade. A or A1?? their sizes are more uniformed. As such they will be easier to place. Especially if you are "OCD" about the gaping and size and uniformity.

As I understand, the lower grade tiles have some sizing issue. Some are bigger, some are smaller there is a few mm worth of "play" that they are allowed.

However this is what my tilers told me long ago. Don't know if it's really true anymore or not. 

My wife was a bit OCD over the patterned tiles and took out each tile for inspection. those that the printing was a bit off or not so pretty, she put it one side and the nice ones she put to another side.

The pretty ones would go to the eye-level  while the uglier ones would go to the top/under the cabinets.
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lol can i borrow ur wife to qc my tiles for me tongue.gif jkjk good advice,thanks
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QUOTE(Lya1982 @ Apr 13 2013, 07:58 PM)
Hi anybody know what is different between homogenous, porcelain and technical porcelain tiles. Which one is superb for table top. Also wonder which brand is ok white horse,guocera or MML? tq
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Hi, just to let you know that Feruni tiles are quite good for table top & they have many choices too. They have tiles which look like real marble.
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QUOTE(lawchinkit @ Apr 16 2013, 07:28 AM)
Hi, just to let you know that Feruni tiles are quite good for table top & they have many choices too. They have tiles which look like real marble.
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Feruni n Niro,which more recommended?
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post Apr 18 2013, 11:42 AM

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I'm looking for those old white 4" x 4" tiles. Those old ones ppl used to use in their bathroom and kitchen. Most tile shop don't carry this anymore because it is too old and no one wants it.

Anyone know where i can get them?
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 16 2013, 06:06 PM)
Feruni n Niro,which more recommended?
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both also very good, just depends on what design you want.
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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Apr 18 2013, 11:42 AM)
I'm looking for those old white 4" x 4" tiles. Those old ones ppl used to use in their bathroom and kitchen. Most tile shop don't carry this anymore because it is too old and no one wants it.

Anyone know where i can get them?
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these tiles are not existing anymore, discontinued long long time ago.
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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Apr 18 2013, 11:42 AM)
I'm looking for those old white 4" x 4" tiles. Those old ones ppl used to use in their bathroom and kitchen. Most tile shop don't carry this anymore because it is too old and no one wants it.

Anyone know where i can get them?
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Do try this place.. I managed to find my tiles there.. Obsolete tiles.. 40cm by 40cm..
Jalan ipoh tile shops cant find.. Few shops around old klang road also cant find.. Finally found it in this place..

W.K. Ceramic Trading (formerly known as Weng Kong Brothers)
Lot 5 Jalan 51a/227

Service was good too wink.gif friendly bunch

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