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wrb7878
post Jun 25 2011, 11:08 PM

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Any 1 went to kepong tiles near the main road(after the CIMB)..the shop call "1 stop" 3 floor building.

I found their price is cheaper than super ceramic, and have many tiles to choose.

2x2 tiles 1st grade MML/china/vietnam ....price from 10.60-12.00.
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post Jun 25 2011, 11:16 PM

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bro do they carry whitehorse too?
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post Jun 25 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(eclipse-space @ Jun 25 2011, 11:16 PM)
bro do they carry whitehorse too?
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MML ia not white house? sorry cos they write in chinese "白马"= white house...and i toe is MML.
Yes, they have white house from 10.60 to 12.60 too.
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post Jun 25 2011, 11:27 PM

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Sorry guys need some advice over here..



I'll will need lots of tile i guess, for 3 bathroom 1 x 2 tiles up to ceiling and 1 x 1 tile for floor, 2 x 2 tile for living room of 380sqft, kitchen 1 x 2 or 2 x 2 tiles for 311 sqft..


1. would like to know what does Adhesive / Susu means ? what for ? where to buy ? or normally tiles already coated with it ?
2. Jln Ipoh is where all good tiles is ? which shop is recomended ?
3. does laying 2 x 2 tiles more expensive in terms of labour cost than smaller size ? (not sure kitchen wan to do 1 x 2 or 2 x 2)
4. what is the most suggest tile size for bathroom floor ? 1 x 1 ? or 1 x 2 ?
5. I'm looking for contractor to do labour, hacking, cement and sands.. the susu things i need to buy or it comes with the tiles ?


please advice me thanks rclxms.gif

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post Jun 25 2011, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 25 2011, 11:27 PM)
Sorry guys need some advice over here..
I'll will need lots of tile i guess, for 3 bathroom 1 x 2 tiles up to ceiling and 1 x 1 tile for floor, 2 x 2 tile for living room of 380sqft, kitchen 1 x 2 or 2 x 2 tiles for 311 sqft..
1. would like to know what does Adhesive / Susu means ? what for ? where to buy ? or normally tiles already coated with it ?
2. Jln Ipoh is where all good tiles is ? which shop is recomended ?
3. does laying 2 x 2 tiles more expensive in terms of labour cost than smaller size ? (not sure kitchen wan to do 1 x 2 or 2 x 2)
4. what is the most suggest tile size for bathroom floor ? 1 x 1 ? or 1 x 2 ?
5. I'm looking for contractor to do labour, hacking, cement and sands.. the susu things i need to buy or it comes with the tiles ?
please advice me thanks  rclxms.gif
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I also start look for tiles but i found many shop not much diff in term of price nowadays....important tiles sifu can help us save tiles waste = save $.

mine is 2x2 living,dining and kitchen around 600sf. kitchen wall 1x2 around 150sf. 1 bathroom and staircase.

1. my contractor never use adhesive/susu he have 30 years of experience and help ppl to lay 2x2 tiles on shopping mall...they have their way not to use it and it will save a lot money. it depend on the contractor, some contractor skills required it.
2. many ppl mention jalan ipoh super ceramic....but they are very busy to entertain customer. so i prefer find some shop can serve me full time and provide ideas.
3. my contractor charge me same price. per/sf.
4. size not important. you must know what color and design u like then you can decide the size later.
5. i think your contractor will buy all material(included susu) except tiles.

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post Jun 26 2011, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 25 2011, 11:38 PM)
I also start look for tiles but i found many shop not much diff in term of price nowadays....important tiles sifu can help us save tiles waste = save $.

mine is 2x2 living,dining and kitchen around 600sf. kitchen wall 1x2 around 150sf. 1 bathroom and staircase.

1. my contractor never use adhesive/susu he have 30 years of experience and help ppl to lay 2x2 tiles on shopping mall...they have their way not to use it and it will save a lot money. it depend on the contractor, some contractor skills required it.
2. many ppl mention jalan ipoh super ceramic....but they are very busy to entertain customer. so i prefer find some shop can serve me full time and provide ideas.
3. my contractor charge me same price. per/sf.
4. size not important. you must know what color and design u like then you can decide the size later.
5. i think your contractor will buy all material(included susu) except tiles.
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Thanks wrb7878, hahaha ya i forget the kitchen wall tiles lol doh.gif actually my contractor old chinese guy i say susu / adhesive he also dun understand and ask me what it's for cox he dun understand malay / english so good.. cantonese i pulak tak tau doh.gif sigh..

what is ur price psft for 2 x 2 tiles ??
color i think living room is either white or beige color, kitchen prefer darker a bit but dunno what color to chose ? any suggestion ? bathroom will be black / grey not sure yet.. how bout yours ??

why ur contractor dun need susu ?? mind sharing ?? maybe my old uncle contractor also same like urs but i just want to confirm the use for this susu things tongue.gif
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 25 2011, 11:24 PM)
MML ia not white house? sorry cos they write in chinese "白马"= white house...and i toe is MML.
Yes, they have white house from 10.60 to 12.60 too.
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WOw, if they have the one which I want it be great. Thinking of going to check them out soon. Where exactly is it?


MML and whitehorse is differnet i think... blink.gif

BTW, these prices are confirmed for Grade A tiles? 'Cos some shop sell Grade B as Grade A as well.

This post has been edited by eclipse-space: Jun 26 2011, 12:37 AM
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post Jun 26 2011, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jun 25 2011, 07:49 PM)
INdeed very cheap. May I know is Chinese / Indo or ?
WHich area and what materials he used? Included of SUSU?
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Chinese contractor. I tiled the living room. 3 workers completed the work in 2 days. Materials inclusive of latex/adhesive and cement. I supplied the 2x2 tiles. If interested call him to quote u a price. Say u are recommended by Kit.

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post Jun 26 2011, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 26 2011, 12:02 AM)
Thanks wrb7878, hahaha ya i forget the kitchen wall tiles lol  doh.gif actually my contractor old chinese guy i say susu / adhesive he also dun understand and ask me what it's for cox he dun understand malay / english so good.. cantonese i pulak tak tau  doh.gif  sigh..

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post Jun 26 2011, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 26 2011, 12:02 AM)
Thanks wrb7878, hahaha ya i forget the kitchen wall tiles lol  doh.gif actually my contractor old chinese guy i say susu / adhesive he also dun understand and ask me what it's for cox he dun understand malay / english so good.. cantonese i pulak tak tau  doh.gif  sigh..

what is ur price psft for 2 x 2 tiles ??
color i think living room is either white or beige color, kitchen prefer darker a bit but dunno what color to chose ? any suggestion ? bathroom will be black / grey not sure yet.. how bout yours ??

why ur contractor dun need susu ?? mind sharing ?? maybe my old uncle contractor also same like urs but i just want to confirm the use for this susu things  tongue.gif
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For 2x2 living the beige color(popular demand) is almost same, just different in term of flower or plain design, and anti stain type. the price is 10.60 to 12.60 which is within my budget < 15.00

I don't have any ideas what tiles on kitchen wall, prefer white and shining type....then bathroom will mix black/white. china black tiles is very glossy look like mirror type...the tiles shop can help us on design later, he have a lot bathroom showroom at 2nd floor. and will show us his design for his past customer too. he just need us to tell him the concept and color...he can provide us the sample photo to decide

My contractor just tell me his skills no required the susu. maybe u can ask ur contractor what is different material to lay in term of 1x1 and 2x2.
Cos normally susu used on 2x2 only.


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QUOTE(eclipse-space @ Jun 26 2011, 12:36 AM)
WOw, if they have the one which I want it be great. Thinking of going to check them out soon. Where exactly is it?
MML and whitehorse is differnet i think...  blink.gif

BTW, these prices are confirmed for Grade A tiles? 'Cos some shop sell Grade B as Grade A as well.
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If from the jalan ipoh to kepong Jusco, after u passby the crystal crown hotel ...u will see CIMB shoplot on ur left....then u drive slow u can see the 3 storey building with shop name "1 stop xxxxx"

Yes, grade 1, he sell those grade 2 as well.
He suggest me if bathroom floor/wall tiles(if lay like 'T' pattern') can use grade 2. grade 2 material and quality is same as grade 1, maybe due to size a bit lari. The price is 50% different ...example grade 1, 1x2 = 8.50 while grade 2= <4.00.


He say normally a lot ppl use grade 2 on car posh, save a lot $$$.
in my case i may use grade 2 on balcony/yard(cos i will put pebble wash around the tiles), and then kitchen cabinet wall area(which will cover by cabinet).

This post has been edited by wrb7878: Jun 26 2011, 08:14 PM
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post Jun 26 2011, 08:14 PM

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I assume the tiles less than RM15 (for 2x2) are not porcelain tiles? When I got mine, even my cheapest Niro Granite porcelain tiles is already about RM25 for 2x2.
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post Jun 26 2011, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jun 26 2011, 08:14 PM)
I assume the tiles less than RM15 (for 2x2) are not porcelain tiles?  When I got mine, even my cheapest Niro Granite porcelain tiles is already about RM25 for 2x2.
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Actually we not familiar what is porcelain, polished or anti stain...we just look on what we like....

That china tiles is very high gloss surface....so what is diff on porcelain and polished type?

he did sell those 2x2 tiles around 25-40...but if look on it...i wont feel any different. maybe material and quality that we cant see from our eye?
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post Jun 26 2011, 09:45 PM

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Porcelain tiles are essentially similar to ceramic tiles except porcelain tiles are more dense and fired at higher temperature. Yes, they will have much lower water Absorption rate (less than 0.5%). So it will not stain easily and much tougher. Porcelain tiles are more suited to floor.

If you want to go high end get the compressed marble or even quartz tiles. They are RM100-500 per piece (imported from Spain or Italy)!
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post Jun 26 2011, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jun 26 2011, 11:04 AM)
doh.gif tak tersangka susu = susu lembu doh.gif are you sure of this the adhesive / susu means cow milk or 牛奶水 ??

QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 26 2011, 08:00 PM)
For 2x2 living the beige color(popular demand) is almost same, just different in term of flower or plain design, and anti stain type. the price is 10.60 to 12.60 which is within my budget < 15.00

I don't have any ideas what tiles on kitchen wall, prefer white and shining type....then bathroom will mix black/white. china black tiles is very glossy look like mirror type...the tiles shop can help us on design later, he have a lot bathroom showroom at 2nd floor. and will show us his design for his past customer too. he just need us to tell him the concept and color...he can provide us the sample photo to decide

My contractor just tell me his skills no required the susu. maybe u can ask ur contractor what is different material to lay in term of 1x1 and 2x2.
Cos normally susu used on 2x2 only.

Yes, grade 1, he sell those grade 2 as well.
He suggest me if bathroom floor/wall tiles(if lay like 'T' pattern') can use grade 2. grade 2 material and quality is same as grade 1, maybe due to size a bit lari. The price is 50% different ...example grade 1, 1x2 = 8.50 while grade 2= <4.00.
He say normally a lot ppl use grade 2 on car posh, save a lot $$$.
in my case i may use grade 2 on balcony/yard(cos i will put pebble wash around the tiles), and then kitchen cabinet wall area(which will cover by cabinet).
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so you brought from this 1 stop shop already ? glossy type for bathroom would it be slippery ???

QUOTE(bhtan @ Jun 26 2011, 09:45 PM)
Porcelain tiles are essentially similar to ceramic tiles except porcelain tiles are more dense and fired at higher temperature. Yes, they will have much lower water Absorption rate (less than 0.5%). So it will not stain easily and much tougher. Porcelain tiles are more suited to floor.

If you want to go high end get the compressed marble or even quartz tiles. They are RM100-500 per piece (imported from Spain or Italy)!
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100 - 500 per piece ? shocking.gif got ppl so gila go buy ma ? shakehead.gif sweat.gif
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post Jun 26 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 26 2011, 11:41 PM)
doh.gif tak tersangka susu = susu  lembu  doh.gif  are you sure of this the adhesive / susu means cow milk or 牛奶水 ??
so you brought from this 1 stop shop already ? glossy type for bathroom would it be slippery ???
100 - 500 per piece ? shocking.gif  got ppl so gila go buy ma ?  shakehead.gif  sweat.gif
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i will visit them once my contractor ask me to order tiles...should be 3 week later.
i means glossy black for wall not for floor. bathroom floor sure cant use glossy type....

my budget is 2x2 <rm15 and 1x2 < rm10.
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post Jun 27 2011, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 26 2011, 11:48 PM)
i will visit them once my contractor ask me to order tiles...should be 3 week later.
i means glossy black for wall not for floor. bathroom floor sure cant use glossy type....

my budget is 2x2 <rm15 and 1x2 < rm10.
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hahaha your budget is roughly my range, 2 x 2 i budget at around rm13, and 1 x 2 at rm10...

i'm a bit confuse in this...

lets said laying 2 x 2 tile (labour + sand + cement ) is rm5 and lying 1 x 1 tile (labour + sand + cement ) is rm3,

then my living room area is 380 sqft... so,

1 x 1 tiles = rm3 x 380 = rm1140.00 for total living room cost

A) 2 x 2 tiles = rm5 x 380 = rm1900.00 for total living room cost or

B) 2 x 2 tiles = rm5 x 95 (380 divide by 4) = rm475.00 ? hahaha

i think A is correct 1 since it can't be cheaper then laying 1 x 1 tiles but just wan to confirm this...

because when we buying tiles let said 1 x 1 rm3 for living room of 380sqft it will be Rm3 x 380 = 1140.00 ?

but for 2 x 2 tiles for living room of 380sqft it will be rm15 x 95 (380 divide by 4) = rm1425.00 ?

correct me if i'm wrong rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jun 27 2011, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 27 2011, 12:25 AM)
hahaha your budget is roughly my range, 2 x 2 i budget at around rm13, and 1 x 2 at rm10...

i'm a bit confuse in this...

lets said laying 2 x 2 tile (labour + sand + cement ) is rm5 and lying 1 x 1 tile (labour + sand + cement ) is rm3,

then my living room area is 380 sqft... so,

1 x 1 tiles = rm3 x 380 = rm1140.00 for total living room cost

A) 2 x 2 tiles = rm5 x 380 = rm1900.00 for total living room cost or

B) 2 x 2 tiles = rm5 x 95 (380 divide by 4) = rm475.00 ? hahaha

i think A is correct 1 since it can't be cheaper then laying 1 x 1 tiles but just wan to confirm this...

because when we buying tiles let said 1 x 1 rm3 for living room of 380sqft it will be Rm3 x 380 = 1140.00 ?

but for 2 x 2 tiles for living room of 380sqft it will be rm15 x 95 (380 divide by 4) = rm1425.00 ?

correct me if i'm wrong  rclxub.gif
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A is correct.
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post Jun 27 2011, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 27 2011, 12:41 AM)
doh.gif tak tersangka susu = susu  lembu  doh.gif  are you sure of this the adhesive / susu means cow milk or 牛奶水 ??
so you brought from this 1 stop shop already ? glossy type for bathroom would it be slippery ???
100 - 500 per piece ? shocking.gif  got ppl so gila go buy ma ?  shakehead.gif  sweat.gif
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Why not? Some people got a lot of money to burn. In renovation, it's the details that cost a lot.
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 26 2011, 12:24 AM)
MML ia not white house? sorry cos they write in chinese "白马"= white house...and i toe is MML.
Yes, they have white house from 10.60 to 12.60 too.
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Bro,how about 1"x2"
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QUOTE(chanjesper @ Jun 27 2011, 09:33 AM)
Bro,how about 1"x2"
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Grade 1 < rm8, grade 2 < 4. If you want to install at car posh can get grade 2.

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