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Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona, Messi won UEFA Best Player Award!

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post Apr 21 2011, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Apr 21 2011, 06:21 PM)
i oso have no idea how to beat tiki taka without using extreme approach ...
good game this morning

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really ugly game.. especially on the 1st half


Why were you contradicting yourself? laugh.gif

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by the way..i really dislike busquet and masherano
and some of real players acting


Ugh, please cut the dive crap. Diving doesn't happen only in El Clasico. Nor divers are only Barca/Real players. Football is littered with divers. This discussion is pointless like discussing every of Ref's decisions......

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arbeloa can get a red on that...
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...errrrr, yeah I think so too tongue.gif Assuming that you refer to the same incident I have in mind of course blush.gif
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post Apr 21 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(hammers @ Apr 21 2011, 09:18 PM)
was the stadium full? =P
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post Apr 22 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(hammers @ Apr 21 2011, 10:43 PM)
no money la bang.. need to sell more players~~
so Mestalla stadium full for the 1st time?
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Building a new stadium is different matter. I really doubt you guys may be able to build after just selling players. Valencia need new investors for the project, or need Dubai branded gold. Even constant participation in CL may not improve the situation by much.

I wonder how Valencia could be so determined to start off the project in the first place sweat.gif

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post Apr 22 2011, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ljf123 @ Apr 22 2011, 04:36 PM)
Palermo increase asking price of Real Madrid and Barcelona target Javier Pastore to over €60m  laugh.gif
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2011/...d-and-barcelona
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Nah, he is not worth that amount. I think he will be lucky to get a third of that.

QUOTE(sepulse @ Apr 22 2011, 08:02 PM)
ouch. 2 more classicos. and both midweek game. bring masch , let him nullified pepe
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Nullify? You mean stomp his ankle back? laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Apr 24 2011, 02:09 PM)
i think pep needs to do something with our defense. if our defense performing the same level like the past couple of weeks. we indeed looking for trouble against madrid. last night wasnt really count because we all aware what milito really is. hope that puyol and whoever his partner is, will fix the problem
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I don't think defense is the problem. We deal mostly with counterattacks. No matter how good your system is, your system will always be exposed to counterattacks, unless your defensive lines is set up so deep. This is how football works. This is why lesser football teams play with that tactic against bigger teams. That is their only chance to score goals for themselves.

Now, imagine a big team, who have sucha pacey blokes, like CR, Maria, or Ozil, imagine how their counterattacks looks like. Well, if you watched Valencia's game last night, with half fit Kaka, Higuain and Karim counterattacked, I think you've got your answer.

So how Barca's gonna counter this counterattacking style? I honestly feel there's no way. But what can Pep do now is to instill the ruthlessness into the team again. Make them as ruthless as earlier this season. Messi's been scoring goals, but he tends to drift out too often in matches. Villa has to be installed in the middle again. Iniesta has to find his concentration again. Xavi needs his forwards to make the right movements. In short, let us hope Pep will come out with another inspirational video again. That's probably our only chance.
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post Apr 27 2011, 10:54 AM

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Well, the number of injuries is really disturbing. Now I can say we will pose absolutely no threat on left hand side.

Is there any hope that Mou to go crazy tonight and decides to go attacking?
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post Apr 27 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(fcbarcelona-my @ Apr 27 2011, 11:02 AM)
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Boss sudah mengamuk  thumbup.gif   thumbup.gif  .
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Josep Maria Bartomeu : "Enough is enough Mourinho"


Josep Maria Bartomeu joined Pep Guardiola in criticism poured on Jose Mourinho in the wake of this attack to the Barcelona coach. FC Barcelona vice-president believes it's time to say "enough" to an entire season of attacks by the Real coach. "There have been two times that exceeded the limit of patience and have reached out to remove. The first was when Barcelona was accused of doping, and therefore put a complaint to COPE and now with the personal attack to our coach. "

Bartomeu could not help but remember that "throughout the season, Mr Mourinho has not stopped attacking us with the referees, schedule, playing 10 against 11, the grass ... We have not said anything, because our philosophy is to play football and ignore anything else, but these two personal attacks that we have done enough. And here we are all together, coaches, players and managers. "

Barcelona vice president explained that "Mr. Mourinho should know that the press in Catalonia is independent and does not write to dictation, as in other places." Is clear that, as you said Guardiola, "we want to go back to our one speech, the one we know and that is none other than football, leaving the field to play and forget everything else and that's what we do tonight . With the players we have come out to play and try to pass the final. "

Barca leader reiterated that "we just want to talk football, but we can not let personal attacks such as those conducted for all staff and to our coach."
One thing I do notice nowadays is that Barca lacks the media power championing our club. We lack the back up from media to express our point of view to wider audience. It frustrates me as a cule.

Now I can fully understand why Pep finally lost his temper. Pep has been trying to ignore all this antics by Mou, and he even managed to say good things about Mou when he had the chance. He said after Mou won the European Best Coach award:

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“He is probably the best coach in the world. Mourinho’s career is perfect. His run in several countries is immaculate.”


And yet, we hear more and more trash talking from the Special One, and things get worse when he launched personal attack to Guardiola. The press and fans hailed him as the best coach our era, I don't care about that. Trying to get into the head of his opposite numbers just before the crucial games, just to get the 'psychological edge', personally I can't stand this sh!t. Very disgusting.


Added on April 27, 2011, 2:04 pmIf you guys want to know more of this Pep vs Mou media strom, check out Sid Lowe's twitter.

One of the stuffs he wrote:

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Guardiola had clearly decided that he was going to do this. Not a snap response to question, but a concerted performance from start.
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post Apr 27 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(miccy @ Apr 27 2011, 08:09 PM)
I think it's a matter of misunderstanding, maybe Mourinho reads it wrong that it comes to this conclusion. I think the media in Spain were to be blame, just look at Marca and Sport, that does not help football.
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That is what Pep tried to point out. Read the second last paragraph of fcbarcelona-my's news excerpt. Instead of trusting a friend who he knows very well, having worked closely in the same team for 4 years at one time, Mourinho chose to hear what Madrid press has to say.
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Thanks to all well-wishers smile.gif

But I've read RM thread. Stumbled upon several posts crying dives by Pedro and Busquets. Well, remember what I said in previous post? Shall we Cules be championing our team instead?

Oh for the this diving sh!t, I hope somebody will put Maria's action in the pool up in Youtube. I'm sure some guy named Allas will do it. Will be checking his account.

Yes, the game was pretty boring. But I think Pep do this on purpose. If Mourinho can select whatever gameplay he desire, so can us. We decided to let the back 5 hold the ball, and its brilliant how it irritated Ronaldo laugh.gif Remember how Mourinho tried to get into Pep's head? Now Pep has gotten into every Real Madrid players and staffs rclxms.gif
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post Apr 28 2011, 05:34 AM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Apr 28 2011, 05:19 AM)
well... i guess u saying me? hahaha
we did discussed this before aint we...

absolute gd football from messi....

the only good thing to talk bout the game =D
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brows.gif brows.gif Maybe bro. But your words were similar to general belief out there. About all those freedom Mourinho had when selecting the type of game he wished to play. All those biased things, you know. So actually I responded as in general terms, was not targeting you smile.gif When haters say our players were divers, they failed to see the dives by RM players, and all those stomping jobs by RM. I wonder whether people backing this thuggery style of football because it is really an accepted style, which is dreadful to me, or it just happened out of hatred for Barca.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Apr 28 2011, 05:36 AM)
they have the talent...they dun hav to use such cheap method =)
they have a choice... and the nudging by the real player this time not even intense enough
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Cheap method eh? laugh.gif How ironic. Real spend hundreds of millions just to stomp the legs of our players?

So yes, we chose to keep the ball, waiting for the challenges, and surely one of those thuggish stomping will be spotted by the referee. We can do that. Why not? Real has escaped too many of them in the past 2 El Clasico. And then it took a stud-up high tackle to get one of them sent off. We enjoice thumbup.gif Mourinho won the pre match conference battle, but succumbed to pressure after match, and Pep won the psychological war, full stop smile.gif

Both resorted to dirty tactics. So fair and square to me. Neutrals may rightly despise El Clasico from now on. But to all neutrals, El Clasico will be a set of beautiful match again once Mou sod off from Madrid.

I'll be eagerly waiting that day. Just let him leave for EPL, which apparently have this absolute blind love towards him smile.gif
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Apr 28 2011, 02:35 PM)
I so freakiin' hate barcelona now... Their theater act is a farking disgrace! Not to mention the entire team of dirty scums surrounding the referee trying to send off people... I really hope that we got a good referee at the finals. 3 el classico 3 red cards.
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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Apr 28 2011, 02:54 PM)
barca also spent heavily under pep la bro
each year always more than 50 millions
50 million spent on a football team, not on some kung fu army cool2.gif

QUOTE(Peculator @ Apr 28 2011, 02:59 PM)
Do not feed the troll.  rclxms.gif
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post Apr 28 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(minority @ Apr 28 2011, 06:04 PM)
I thought it hit his shinguard, mostly.
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Whatever it was dude, Mr. Stark didn't have the luxury of gifs, slow-mo, or pics to help him judging whether Pepe hit Alves' shinguard or knee. The incident happened in a split second. If you guys judge his decisions by just using gifs, it is unfair to the referee. The referee often evaluate based on the circumstances and the nature of the challenge. If he judge Pepe's challenge as dangerous, then he's done his job. No need to see whether Alves' leg has broken into pieces or not.

QUOTE(minority @ Apr 28 2011, 06:04 PM)
But again, it's regular to see over-reaction nowadays to get something out of the referree.
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This, I fully agree.

QUOTE(VerdictReview @ Apr 28 2011, 08:11 PM)
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Come on Barca you don't need do this, your team really good....

Please no more dirty tactics from Barcelona.  sweat.gif
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Thx for the acknowledgment smile.gif Now do you have gifs of Maria's dives to share? Or you are just another biased troll here?

Doesn't matter, I'll gladly return the favor biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 28 2011, 10:05 PM)
I wonder what would Barca players say if they had to play against an Italian team using the catenaccio....

What would Barca fans here think about that then? Play-acting surely isn't an answer to a legitimate but absolutely boring tactic.... the way Pique put it is as if it is a crime to play defensive football.
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Pique actually complained because Real played violently, not defensively. Playing defensively is not a crime, playing violently is.
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post Apr 29 2011, 12:57 AM

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So Real players can dive and stomp on our players, but not us? Double standard. You can do that in Real thread smile.gif
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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Apr 29 2011, 01:21 AM)
the problem here my fren, why setiap kali wisel (well almost everytime i think) barca players want to serbu and influence the ref?
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Tell Madrid players to stop being thuggish, or any team for that matter.

We were defeated by Hercules, but we didn't complained that much. Shakhtar outplayed us in 2nd leg, but we didn't cried fouls. We were always cool headed when we get outplayed fairly. But against thuggish Mourinho's sides? No way. Some extreme approach shall be applied too I guess hmm.gif

To summarize, or repeating the thing I've said before, yes my team was professionally very bad. But so did Real Madrid, also in terms of professionalism. Not going to say which side was worse. Because both sides have similar sins. In the end it made up among the worst El Clasico in my entire life watching Barca. And I don't think it is just a matter of coincidence that these bunch of ugly El Clasico started when Mourinho took charge for Real. I hope he leave Spain this summer, and bring back Pellegrini. Real better off playing under him. Pellegrini's Real never get beaten 5-0 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Apr 29 2011, 11:44 AM)
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I wholeheatedly agree. If Mourinho wants to resort to dirty tactics, as it's been obvious for the past 2 Clasicos, why can't we right?

QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Apr 29 2011, 12:05 PM)
btw copa del rey madrid won with attacking football on first half
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I literally laughed my ass out laugh.gif

Real Madrid! For the sake of EL Clasico grandeur in the future, pleaaaase, dump the Special One!! Get back Pellegrini, don't let him rot in Segunda.

QUOTE(miccy @ Apr 29 2011, 02:52 PM)
I can stand with his antics but not this  shakehead.gif
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Please dude, don't be too biased.
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QUOTE(miccy @ Apr 29 2011, 03:57 PM)
I'm not saying anything about Mourinho tongue.gif I understand his emotion, he felt he has been unfairly been treated each time he meet Barca. In all fairness, your video is biased too  wink.gif
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Yes, the vid was biased. I just want to tell you there's always two sides of a story. Since you act like Madrid has acted as they should, and there was nothing wrong about it, I showed you the ugly side of your team wink.gif

QUOTE(gamer4life @ Apr 29 2011, 05:08 PM)
in tat game itself... it has ntg violent...and yet pepe got sent off
after play acting by alves....

self explanatory ...
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post Apr 29 2011, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(mrkenn @ Apr 29 2011, 06:25 PM)
Pepe's challenge should have been a yellow card.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...elease-?cc=4716

What a dive from alves. As always.
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So Alves should just let Pepe's stud hit him? Well I'd rather Alves pulls his leg out of the way quickly and dives. We need him in the final without injury you know. So it was a bookable offense. The next question is which color? Yellow seems to be the appropriate one. But the refs showed red. That's because the ref was an idiot. He was an idiot as he was blind, for not detecting Marcelo's stomp on Pedro's legs.

So now, please haters, if you've got no constructive argument, please go away, and bring along your 'holier than thou' and 'I did nothing, he did!' attitude.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 29 2011, 07:15 PM)
I think most ppl here pissed by his play acting, not how he dives...
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Oh yeah I think he's a badass in that regards. But Pepe has no valid argument to support him either, it was a potentially a dangerous challenge had Alves not minimized the damage by pulling out his leg. A yellow is guaranteed. But ref's think otherwise.

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