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Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona, Messi won UEFA Best Player Award!

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RaedeanBF2
post Apr 29 2011, 07:35 AM

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I dont think RM fans are THAT actually butthurt....

Its actually..........(you can guess it) brows.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ Apr 29 2011, 07:35 AM)
I dont think RM fans are THAT actually butthurt....

Its actually..........(you can guess it) brows.gif
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everyone in the world. laugh.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 09:02 AM

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is normal ... once your team the best in the world ... people will jealous and start every attack ...

and start to double standard ... as their team never do before ...




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post Apr 29 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Apr 29 2011, 09:02 AM)
is normal ... once your team the best in the world ... people will jealous and start every attack ...

and start to double standard ... as their team never do before ...
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3 red cards to a single team in 3 matches, how u call it double standard?
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post Apr 29 2011, 09:21 AM

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Vamos Barca!
No matter what "The Special One" said, Barca was the team that actually played good football on the night.
I hope Barca beat Man Utd in the final;-)


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post Apr 29 2011, 09:39 AM

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What I can see is real have no other tactic other than physically assault Barcelona team player



Added on April 29, 2011, 10:02 am

So harsh is real Madrid player

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post Apr 29 2011, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(liez @ Apr 29 2011, 08:04 AM)
everyone in the world.  laugh.gif
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U are so wrong...not every1 in this world....is only the others team fans that Barca might face in the final that are butthurt more than Real fans....U guys just scared them out...... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Btw, it still bemused me when some1 referring Barca tiki taka football as antifootball(in RM thread).....Possession football is something u earn by urself....If u keep on bombarding the ball forward like no 1 lands and hoping for a miracle, then dun blame tiki taka as boring....It was u guys who dunwan to keep possession of the ball...... doh.gif


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post Apr 29 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Apr 29 2011, 02:11 AM)
Tell Madrid players to stop being thuggish, or any team for that matter.

We were defeated by Hercules, but we didn't complained that much. Shakhtar outplayed us in 2nd leg, but we didn't cried fouls. We were always cool headed when we get outplayed fairly. But against thuggish Mourinho's sides? No way. Some extreme approach shall be applied too I guess hmm.gif

To summarize, or repeating the thing I've said before, yes my team was professionally very bad. But so did Real Madrid, also in terms of professionalism. Not going to say which side was worse. Because both sides have similar sins. In the end it made up among the worst El Clasico in my entire life watching Barca. And I don't think it is just a matter of coincidence that these bunch of ugly El Clasico started when Mourinho took charge for Real. I hope he leave Spain this summer, and bring back Pellegrini. Real better off playing under him. Pellegrini's Real never get beaten 5-0 tongue.gif
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bro.. its normal la bro... barca get foul, n barca will serbu the ref... its becoz the intensity of the game... why madrid didnt do that?? simple answer... becoz barca players didnt commit harsh tackle and foul like madrista does.. its just a shame for madrid i guess... play defensively, hard tacle, in order to stop barca free flow passing games.. shakehead.gif

barca free flow passing games vs physical approach rclxub.gif

how to play against physical & hard tackling games... someone can answer me please... icon_question.gif

imo, with barca player size, smaller, no height n enough strenght, we cannot compete in physical approach & hard takling minded games..i do believe we totally cannot play using this "special" tactics.. so, what should we done??? pls help me to answer this.... icon_question.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Apr 29 2011, 10:25 AM)
bro.. its normal la bro... barca get foul, n barca will serbu the ref... its becoz the intensity of the game... why madrid didnt do that?? simple answer... becoz barca players didnt commit harsh tackle and foul like madrista does.. its just a shame for madrid i guess... play defensively, hard tacle, in order to stop barca free flow passing games..  shakehead.gif

barca free flow passing games vs physical approach rclxub.gif

how to play against physical & hard tackling games... someone can answer me please...  icon_question.gif

imo, with barca player size, smaller, no height n enough strenght, we cannot compete in physical approach & hard takling minded games..i do believe we totally cannot play using this "special" tactics.. so, what should we done??? pls help me to answer this.... icon_question.gif
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there might be few hard tackles from both sides, but most of the time (pedro, busquets, alves ) how many real tackles that 'they really get' ?

so u're agreeing barca players action to surround the ref for most of the fouls?enlighten me please
& by definition u're agreeing barca play act is ok for u? isit?
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post Apr 29 2011, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Apr 29 2011, 10:48 AM)
there might be few hard tackles from both sides, but most of the time (pedro, busquets, alves ) how many real tackles that 'they really get' ?

so u're agreeing barca players action  to surround the ref for most of the fouls?enlighten me please
& by definition u're agreeing barca play act is ok for u? isit?
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few hard tackles?? that match only have few becoz barca play passing in their own half only.. becoz we already learn from pass two matches,.. did u watch last 2 matches?? where pepe playing a big part in the heart of the defensive tactical... simply trying to injured messi, iniesta & xavi... so, frm there we learn we cant play like b4... if i was the players, i'm also afraid to dribling infront on pepe.. he might broke my leg... do u want it happen to u??? not me if i was the players... whistling.gif

so, pep figure out 1 tactic... which is physicological tactics.. we just passing around & make madrid players watch & watch... even there is no attacks & shoot, its ok... play a pshyco & make madrid FRUSTRATED becoz couldnt take the ball & have a possession.. & once they FRUST, they will commit a foul.. so, its the best time to act & act... thumbup.gif

this pshycho tactics was used by Mou off the pitch.. saying bla bla bla bla.. claming bla bla bla... therefore, pep figure out, this is the only way to play againts madrid & Mou.. madrid has a lot of quality, there is no way u can play againts them with their parking bus tactics.. u tell me, how to play againts defensive side & physical team with a 80mio man???

n, i do believe pep just wanted a draw @ bernabeu at the first place... thats why they wasted a time by passing around...

-just my 2cents-
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post Apr 29 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Apr 29 2011, 11:04 AM)
few hard tackles?? that match only have few becoz barca play passing in their own half only.. becoz we already learn from pass two matches,.. did u watch last 2 matches?? where pepe playing a big part in the heart of the defensive tactical... simply trying to injured messi, iniesta & xavi... so, frm there we learn we cant play like b4... if i was the players, i'm also afraid to dribling infront on pepe.. he might broke my leg... do u want it happen to u??? not me if i was the players... whistling.gif

so, pep figure out 1 tactic... which is physicological tactics.. we just passing around & make madrid players watch & watch... even there is no attacks & shoot, its ok... play a pshyco & make madrid FRUSTRATED becoz couldnt take the ball & have a possession.. & once they FRUST, they will commit a foul.. so, its the best time to act & act...  thumbup.gif

this pshycho tactics was used by Mou off the pitch.. saying bla bla bla bla.. claming bla bla bla... therefore, pep figure out, this is the only way to play againts madrid & Mou.. madrid has a lot of quality, there is no way u can play againts them with their parking bus tactics.. u tell me, how to play againts defensive side & physical team with a 80mio man???

n, i do believe pep just wanted a draw @ bernabeu at the first place... thats why they wasted a time by passing around...

-just my 2cents-
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the only player that's frustrated with the defensive duty is c ronaldo(because he's attacking minded player), otherwise, why pique comes out with madrid do not want to play football by just sit back?
so who frustrates who?

now pep pulak yang nak draw? aiyoo.. i tot u all said barca is the only team yang main bola whistling.gif

regarding rough tackles & serbu ref..



i dont see there's a need for valdes from his GK position come to serbu the ref oso doh.gif

IMO (& most of the football experts i believe) it was Jose who wants to sit back and watch & frustrates barca with deep defensive line

get ur facts straight my fren wink.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Apr 29 2011, 11:24 AM)
the only player that's frustrated with the defensive duty is c ronaldo(because he's attacking minded player), otherwise, why pique comes out with madrid do not want to play football by just sit back?
so who frustrates who?

now pep pulak yang nak draw? aiyoo.. i tot u all said barca is the only team yang main bola  whistling.gif

regarding rough tackles & serbu ref..



i dont see there's a need for valdes from his GK position come to serbu the ref oso  doh.gif

IMO (& most of the football experts i believe) it was Jose who wants to sit back and watch & frustrates barca with deep defensive line

get ur facts straight my fren  wink.gif
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yup... agree with your points here.. "IMO (& most of the football experts i believe) it was Jose who wants to sit back and watch & frustrates barca with deep defensive line"

but, thats why i said.. psychology... reverse psychology is done by pep.. last 2 matches, we try to break madrid defend, but, there is no outcome... correct me if im wrong.. thats make Mou happy becoz of the deep defensice line was really working against barca.. again, correct me if im wrong...

so, what pep did, instead of trying to attack, why dont we sit back, and passing around while hoping madrid played to frustrated & come n get the ball while commiting a foul??? yes.. we were frustrated in last 2 matches, but now, we want to make a reverse of that.. is that wrong bro???

to make it worst, alves, busquet & pedro already known becoz of their acting ability... so, why dont we use it?? althought it is stupid ways to win a game, but win is a win right.. no matter how u achieve it, how u score it, win is a win.. correct me if im wrong...

again, how to play again team that use deep defensive line??? last year barca lose in semis becoz of that.. we lose in spanish cup becoz of that.. then, can u figure out how to play again Mou's team??? with the resouces that we have???

it might sound stupid, but again i would say, this is my own opinion.. its not representing others.... brows.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 12:05 PM

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i cant believe those words coming out from barca fans hehee

btw copa del rey madrid won with attacking football on first half
then barca come on 2nd half
madrid attack back on 1st half ET
goal.


it's not like mou only defend the whole time he play against barca dude.
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post Apr 29 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Apr 29 2011, 12:05 PM)
i cant believe those words coming out from barca fans hehee

btw copa del rey madrid won with attacking football on first half
then barca come on 2nd half
madrid attack back on 1st half ET
goal.
it's not like mou only defend the whole time he play against barca dude.
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no worries bro.. i do ashamed with what happening.. but, thats the beauty of football... its not all about, kicking, tackling, heading, but also including acting & wat so ever... nowadays, people will do anything to win anything... same goes here.. as long as we score, its doesnt matter what happen outside... in the end, we won the game... but yet we havent wont the cup..lets sit & watch next game... tongue.gif

copa del rey 1st half??? attacking?? dude.. come on la.. just having a few shot on target, then it considered an attacking??? lol... madrid is playing counter-attacking bro.. due to some mispassing, intercept done... other than that, they just sit back & wait for the counter attack bro... whistling.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Apr 29 2011, 12:15 PM)
copa del rey 1st half??? attacking?? dude.. come on la.. just having a few shot on target, then it considered an attacking??? lol... madrid  is playing counter-attacking bro.. due to some mispassing, intercept done... other than that, they just sit back & wait for the counter attack bro...  whistling.gif
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doh.gif u wont admit it, so no point la i continue here

anyway congrats for u're 'win' and good luck in the final icon_rolleyes.gif
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Forever Jose Fans...

Unlikely he will succeed in Spain where he succeeded other league. I recommend him move to bundes liga and try his luck over there. Spanish league aint his thing now.

Hail "The Special Ones"!!

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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Apr 29 2011, 11:04 AM)
few hard tackles?? that match only have few becoz barca play passing in their own half only.. becoz we already learn from pass two matches,.. did u watch last 2 matches?? where pepe playing a big part in the heart of the defensive tactical... simply trying to injured messi, iniesta & xavi... so, frm there we learn we cant play like b4... if i was the players, i'm also afraid to dribling infront on pepe.. he might broke my leg... do u want it happen to u??? not me if i was the players... whistling.gif

so, pep figure out 1 tactic... which is physicological tactics.. we just passing around & make madrid players watch & watch... even there is no attacks & shoot, its ok... play a pshyco & make madrid FRUSTRATED becoz couldnt take the ball & have a possession.. & once they FRUST, they will commit a foul.. so, its the best time to act & act...  thumbup.gif

this pshycho tactics was used by Mou off the pitch.. saying bla bla bla bla.. claming bla bla bla... therefore, pep figure out, this is the only way to play againts madrid & Mou.. madrid has a lot of quality, there is no way u can play againts them with their parking bus tactics.. u tell me, how to play againts defensive side & physical team with a 80mio man???

n, i do believe pep just wanted a draw @ bernabeu at the first place... thats why they wasted a time by passing around...

-just my 2cents-
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So those tactics not considered as antifootball eh.. Hmm kinda familiar like unsporting behaviour played by bullies in FIFAOnline 2 by keeping possesion on own half and take advantage with the bugs and frustrate the opponent.. Just stagnant beauties not enough for the colours of football.. lets provoke some!!

Well known tactic to deal with thuggery.. Well it can be apply for provocation as well.. Hmm Pep quotes that Barca not need to play mind game on public.. just demontrate on the field hmm.gif

..just my 2 senses..
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this is turning endless argument between us n real fans..

they say we shouldn't play ''play acting'' and try to booked the opponent n sent them off,

then i think real player also need to stop playing violently against us.. when ur team play that aggressive violent kinda game, we will counter it by trying to get ur player sent off, yes it is dirty, but it is a strategy, same goes with ur team style by killing our player to stop a free flow pass..
let say if real player play a normal aggressive style n less violent style, all of our dive, act would came back to us n it is us who'll get the booking for diving.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Apr 29 2011, 01:02 PM)
this is turning endless argument between us n real fans..

they say we shouldn't  play ''play acting'' and try to booked the opponent n sent them off,

then i think real player also need to stop playing violently against us.. when ur team play that aggressive violent kinda game, we will counter it by trying to get ur player sent off, yes it is dirty, but it is a strategy, same goes with ur team style by killing our player to stop a free flow pass..
let say if real player play a normal aggressive style n less violent style, all of our dive, act would came back to us n it is us who'll get the booking for diving.
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how u define dirty challenge? the one who won the ball without touching ur leg.
the one who body shields(to protect the ball) without touching ur face
( of course there are few challenges from both team. )
love to see ur definition here

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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Apr 29 2011, 11:44 AM)
yup... agree with your points here.. "IMO (& most of the football experts i believe) it was Jose who wants to sit back and watch & frustrates barca with deep defensive line"

but, thats why i said.. psychology... reverse psychology is done by pep..  last 2 matches, we try to break madrid defend, but, there is no outcome... correct me if im wrong.. thats make Mou happy becoz of the deep defensice line was really working against barca.. again, correct me if im wrong...

so, what pep did, instead of trying to attack, why dont we sit back, and passing around while hoping madrid played to frustrated & come n get the ball while commiting a foul??? yes.. we were frustrated in last 2 matches, but now, we want to make a reverse of that.. is that wrong bro???

to make it worst, alves, busquet & pedro already known becoz of their acting ability... so, why dont we use it?? althought it is stupid ways to win a game, but win is a win right.. no matter how u achieve it, how u score it, win is a win.. correct me if im wrong...

again, how to play again team that use deep defensive line??? last year barca lose in semis becoz of that.. we lose in spanish cup becoz of that.. then, can u figure out how to play again Mou's team??? with the resouces that we have???

it might sound stupid, but again i would say, this is my own opinion.. its not representing others....  brows.gif
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friend what u said is totally right in Barcelona view haha ,have to think about how to win,when Madrid can use taekwando black belt pepe to disturb barca player why not barca player disturb tem in other way that can clearly warn rm player no playing of violent ,fair play !I can't respect a team with all those violent tactic to stop rival football should play with skil


Added on April 29, 2011, 1:43 pmMadrid Ronaldo is frustrated when his team mate listen to coach to play a deep deep defensive football


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