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TSZaypher
post Feb 18 2011, 08:18 AM, updated 15y ago

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Dear all,

I hope this is the right place to post this thread. My Turtle Wax super hard shell wax is going to finish soon and I'm looking around for a new wax. Seriously, I'm not a fan of removing the wax because of the dust. If not careful, the dust will stick everywhere and it's quick tricky to remove.

From the above, you all can tell that I'm no pro-detailer tongue.gif
I came across this Turtle Wax Ice Liquid polish in the supermarket. I was a little moved by their advertisement. If that product works as advertised, it's the perfect product for me.

My question is, this ICE liquid polish is a wax or polish? I know the bottle is 'liquid polish' but the advertisement said "stop waxing and start icing". Besides, there is a side by side comparison between the liquid polish and a conventional wax. I thought that if it is a polish, then why compare with wax? it should be compared with another polish.
Lastly, I also read from their website that the polish contains wax.

So I'm a little confused. If i use this product, do i have to wax the car? or is it two in 1? If it is a polish, then I need to buy another wax so it may not be worthwhile.
Also, Turtle Wax ICE doesn't have any 'wax'.

Please enlighten.

Thank you smile.gif

This post has been edited by Zaypher: Feb 18 2011, 08:23 AM
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post Feb 18 2011, 08:57 AM

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im using meg gold class paste & its good and simple to use with your hand. the reflection is fair & smooth also make sure wash car with meg gold class wash . dont go to cuci kereta tepi jalan as it can damage your wax & car.
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post Feb 18 2011, 12:52 PM

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wow, that is not answering the question, right?

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post Feb 18 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Feb 18 2011, 12:52 PM)
wow, that is not answering the question, right?
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That's pretty normal. When you ask somebody which taste better, red or white wine and they'd answer that beer taste best.

To answer your question, Turtle themselves call it a liquid wax. It's just the name polish confuses everybody. Polish in english terms means to smoothen and brighten or to make glossy but in car detailing most the time 'polish' means 'abrasive rubbing'. So it is a wax and not an abrasive polish.

http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,1

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post Feb 18 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Feb 18 2011, 02:02 PM)
That's pretty normal. When you ask somebody which taste better, red or white wine and they'd answer that beer taste best.

To answer your question, Turtle themselves call it a liquid wax. It's just the name polish confuses everybody. Polish in english terms means to smoothen and brighten or to make glossy but in car detailing most the time 'polish' means 'abrasive rubbing'. So it is a wax and not an abrasive polish.

http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,1
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hahah you have a good point but in my thread, I don't think i was asking that kind of question. My question was, is Ice Liquid polish a wax or polish and along that line.

I read that link before, thank you for confirming and enlightening me.

ICEĀ® is a clear wax formulated with completely new technology that blends silicone and hydrocarbon polymers to provide extraordinary shine and durability

I thought it is a wax also. So the name liquid polish seem rather confusing, at least to me smile.gif

Thanks again
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post Feb 18 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Feb 18 2011, 02:35 PM)

ICEĀ® is a clear wax formulated with completely new technology that blends silicone and hydrocarbon polymers to provide extraordinary shine and durability

I thought it is a wax also. So the name liquid polish seem rather confusing, at least to me smile.gif

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why you still "thought" , they did mentioned ice is a clear wax right.. ?
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post Feb 18 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 18 2011, 03:44 PM)
why you still "thought" , they did mentioned ice is a clear wax right.. ?
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To answer your question, the only reason I can think of is that, I'm stupid and/or not smart enough.
I guess it's due to the fact that 'wax' and 'polish' are used interchangeably to describe the product. So I'm not sure which is which since from my limited understanding, wax and polish are both different.

Anyway, please correct me if i'm wrong.

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If it is a wax, i'm going to buy it as a replacement for my wax smile.gif
Then hopefully I can write a review smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2011, 05:07 PM

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It's a synthetic wax
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post Feb 19 2011, 04:26 PM

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there's 2 types of polish which detailer commonly uses:
1) abrasive
2) non-abrasive

abrasive polish - for paint correcting purposes (eg. Meguiars Ultimate Compound)

non-abrasive polish - this is normally done after u corrected ur paint.. its to hide slight imperfections of the paint.. and also improved the looks.. however, pls rmb to apply a layer of wax or sealent as polish doesnt last long.. (eg: Meguiars #7)

however, some manufacturer tends to confuse these terminology as they try to market the term that mass consumer knows..

hope i help smile.gif

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post Feb 19 2011, 06:25 PM

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I had the same problem. Most state their product as wax. Soft99 is wax but works like a polish since it has abrasives. I got a Nu Once a Year Polish which is say is polish but work like a wax and totally don't help in polishing.


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QUOTE(GEFORCEXTREME @ Feb 19 2011, 06:25 PM)
I had the same problem. Most state their product as wax. Soft99 is wax but works like a polish since it has abrasives. I got a Nu Once a Year Polish which is say is polish but work like a wax and totally don't help in polishing.
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the soft99 u stated is silver bottle meta clean right? if yes, thats a cleaner/wax hybrid.. or more commonly knowns as AIO (all in one)...

abrasive polish is those which can 'makan' ur paint... or known as paint compounding..

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post Feb 19 2011, 08:52 PM

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i just bought the turtle wax ICE interior care and liquid polish. Also got their F21 rim cleaner.
wanted to buy the ICE rim cleaner but not available at the parkson near my place.

i'm going to finish my current car shampoo before i go for the ice shampoo (depending on whether ice live up to its price)
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post Feb 19 2011, 09:24 PM

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so rich use ICE range product ^^,
bro try meg's after this
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post Feb 19 2011, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Feb 19 2011, 09:24 PM)
so rich use ICE range product ^^,
bro try meg's after this
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to be really honest with you, i'm really not rich. I'm just giving the best i can for my car because I love my car a lot.
ICE products are seriously pricey. I'm not sure if the shampoo worth it or not. With that price, I could get a Meguairs NXT car wash smile.gif

I'm just a noob detailer, if the ICE liquid polish works like advertised, i don't mind paying the price.
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actually if u compare back.. some of the TW's products are seriously overpriced.

but some Meguiar's products are not up to the expectation either.. there are others u can try.. Like Osren, support malaysia company! biggrin.gif
Or give Duragloss a try.. smile.gif

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me trying smartwax now.. bought the smartwax, dressing, and claykit.. price wise during this "promo" season also looks good.. actually not too sure whats the real price since noone else is selling it elsewhere.. made in usa too so prolly i guess they're quite good, or at least above average?

previously was using megs goldclass carnauba wax.. dun really like the powdery bits when buffing it off with cloth..

my views for smartwax - so far so good... ultimateshine.com.my is having some promo, not sure until when.. price also looks good, infact cheaper than turtle wax.

www.ultimateshine.com.my ..
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ah.. finally someone tried SmartWax... w/o offer their price is kinda expensive to me.. but their application seems extremely easy..

bought ONR from ultimateshine.com.my... good offer back then for gallon size.. brows.gif

oh ya.. there are Mothers and Optimum too in Malaysia which is available online.

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post Feb 20 2011, 04:06 PM

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I used Turtle Wax today and I am seriously got blown away by its result. I absolutely love its ease of use. It takes almost no effort to put it on and remove it. Now my car has a nice shine though I'm not sure how long it'll last. I'll keep a close watch.

After this, it's time to buy the TW ICE spray detailer and Clay kit.
I think i'll stick with TW ICE smile.gif

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Feb 20 2011, 04:06 PM)
I used Turtle Wax today and I am seriously got blown away by its result. I absolutely love its ease of use. It takes almost no effort to put it on and remove it. Now my car has a nice shine though I'm not sure how long it'll last. I'll keep a close watch.

After this, it's time to buy the TW ICE spray detailer and Clay kit.
I think i'll stick with TW ICE smile.gif
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yea.. thts good.. smile.gif

Like Mike Phillips always say... "Find something you like and use it often"
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Feb 20 2011, 04:06 PM)
I used Turtle Wax today and I am seriously got blown away by its result. I absolutely love its ease of use. It takes almost no effort to put it on and remove it. Now my car has a nice shine though I'm not sure how long it'll last. I'll keep a close watch.

After this, it's time to buy the TW ICE spray detailer and Clay kit.
I think i'll stick with TW ICE smile.gif
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great bro smile.gif
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QUOTE(capiche @ Feb 19 2011, 10:42 PM)
actually if u compare back.. some of the TW's products are seriously overpriced.

but some Meguiar's products are not up to the expectation either.. there are others u can try.. Like Osren, support malaysia company! biggrin.gif
Or give Duragloss a try.. smile.gif
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Duragloss??? From which company?
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post Feb 21 2011, 03:51 PM

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Here..

Duragloss

http://estore.duragloss.com.my/webapp/wcs/...ies_10001_10051

Mothers'

https://www.autopolishine.com

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post Feb 21 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Feb 21 2011, 03:51 PM)
Thank you, sir!
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QUOTE(tchtax @ Feb 21 2011, 04:46 PM)
Thank you, sir!
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Dun 'sir' me.. Haha.. Its good to share. smile.gif

Its my pleasure. smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2011, 07:31 PM

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LOL. good one capiche, actually duragloss seem to have good review from a satrianeoclub member. He ranked duragloss car wash on the same level as the Meguairs NXT smile.gif

I think this thread served its purpose. Should I keep it on or close? biggrin.gif
LOL...


Added on February 21, 2011, 7:32 pmor since there seem to be no TW ICE user here (or none willing to share their experience), I can be here to answer most basic queries tongue.gif



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post Feb 22 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Feb 21 2011, 07:31 PM)
LOL. good one capiche, actually duragloss seem to have good review from a satrianeoclub member. He ranked duragloss car wash on the same level as the Meguairs NXT smile.gif

I think this thread served its purpose. Should I keep it on or close? biggrin.gif
LOL...


Added on February 21, 2011, 7:32 pmor since there seem to be no TW ICE user here (or none willing to share their experience), I can be here to answer most basic queries tongue.gif
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Anyways..here's the product review on the Duragloss Car Shampoo. I'm gonna get myself a gallon.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/produc...oncentrate.html

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Zaypher, how is your TW ICE Polish liquid doing? Can you give it some simple comments? like ease of use, and how long it can last?
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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Feb 25 2011, 08:48 AM)
Zaypher, how is your TW ICE Polish liquid doing? Can you give it some simple comments? like ease of use, and how long it can last?
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Hi bro,
sorry for the late reply for I just saw your message.
I really like it a lot and I just bought their Clay kit today. I am going full fledged turtle wax ice cleaning system.
My car still looks shiny but it's no longer smooth when touched though the water still beads.
I think I can last 1 or 2 months at most.

I tell you what, in weeks to come, I will do some serious prep work before applying the liquid polish and post some pics. I don't think it's fair to comment on the liquid polish without cleaning the surface properly.

As for its ease of use, this thing is just crazy. You will never know how easy to use this thing. Besides, the application part is almost effortless. I absolutely got blown away by its ease of use. I think this is perfect for busy people. Another plus point is, the amount used to detail your car is very minimal. Gauging from my bottle, if i were to wax once every 2 months, the bottle may very well last more than a year hmm.gif

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Hi,

What is the price for the turtle clay? & can the tw ice remove swirl mark?
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post Mar 6 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(ohmlawx @ Mar 6 2011, 06:00 PM)
Hi,

What is the price for the turtle clay? & can the tw ice remove swirl mark?
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I'm starting to feel that Turtle Wax should pay me for answering their queries. LOL jks aside.

There are two types of clay in TW Ice line.
Liquid clay and the Clay Kit.
Liquid clay comes with the sponge applicator and costs 119.90.

Whereas the clay kit comes with the Liquid clay + clay bar lubricant + clay bar itself.
This is priced at 149.90.

It is said to remove swirl marks but i have yet to test it. My product is still inside the box.
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 6 2011, 07:14 PM)
I'm starting to feel that Turtle Wax should pay me for answering their queries. LOL jks aside.

There are two types of clay in TW Ice line.
Liquid clay and the Clay Kit.
Liquid clay comes with the sponge applicator and costs 119.90.

Whereas the clay kit comes with the Liquid clay + clay bar lubricant + clay bar itself.
This is priced at 149.90.

It is said to remove swirl marks but i have yet to test it. My product is still inside the box.
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thx.. i am looking forward for this turtle products as i see it is easily find.. can buy it at major shopping complex... tomorrow or next week will survey this.
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actually meguairs also quite easy to find what?
It is available in ACE hardware shop where sstocks are aplenty.

Maybe you can go ahead and use it first. let me know in advance la.


Added on March 10, 2011, 10:13 pmNew update. I have waxed my car with this Turtle Wax Ice liquid polish synthetic wax three (3) weeks ago. Since it was raining this morning around Klang Valley area, I managed to check on the wax. The rain water still beads consistently. So it is quite durable biggrin.gif so far

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