I wonder if hillsong is coming to malaysia again?
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Feb 18 2011, 11:10 AM
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I wonder if hillsong is coming to malaysia again?
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Feb 18 2011, 02:42 PM
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i m a chirstian turned atheist. am i welcomed?
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Feb 18 2011, 02:48 PM
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Feb 18 2011, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Feb 18 2011, 03:16 PM) dats kinda biased don ya think? jesus is sad that his teachings got splitted into so many denominations. if he's around today, he'd give each n everyone of us a good slap. after that a kiss to soothe the cheeckhurt hehe sadly its denominations that separate all the christians apart. There are even christians suing christians. |
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Mar 9 2011, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Feb 18 2011, 02:25 PM) hey i have a question for you bible belts, why christians always talk bout catholics as if they are different? Isnt catholism the original christian religion. Then only all the political hustlers few centuries ago created protestanism la methodist la just to suit their own goals. So yea the true christians are the catholics. you are so very wrong. Those that preach about how about themselves and waste time discriminating about each other's religion rather than to spread the Message, those are the false prophets.. Methodology is the reason why there are many denominations branch out from the original..But that does not justify what these denominated churches are practising is true or wrong.. Only He have the right to judge. |
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Apr 7 2011, 11:21 PM
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May 20 2011, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ May 20 2011, 04:04 PM) Wats the use of wings for the angels? Or are they a metaphor, or perhaps Jet pack wings that the writer mistook for bird wings.. its just mere mortal 's illustrations for the glorified beings created by God. they need not jet pack.. the word almighty already are overwhelming. |
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Oct 15 2012, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:18 AM) That's not a lot, it's the basic which All Christians must know. and now you question about God's authority? But to answer you River of Life Sanctuary. So now answer me. If Jesus is your saviour from sins, Why is the 10 commandment unable to save you from your sins? I mean if the 10 commandment is effective and is able to make you righteous, Why is there a need for Jesus to come? Why should there be a New Testament if the 10 commandment has no problem? |
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Oct 15 2012, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(tipuism @ Oct 15 2012, 12:09 PM) Today I clicked on this thread wondering what i would find. that is why there all so many denominations out there. Would I find words of encouragement or exhortation? A teaching that will enrich my spiritual walk? Or a clean joke that will bring cheer to my weary soul. Instead I find people squabbling over insignificant issues on who is right or who is wrong. So I depart having wasted my time but with a heavier soul. They argue and debate just about everything out there when God gave them a mission to spread the Good News to the lost souls. I mean no offense but what is the point of debating who is right and who is wrong among yourself when there are still lots of things to do? which has more heavier conviction? having to debate which is right or wrong? or spread the Good News? |
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Oct 15 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 15 2012, 12:47 PM) so? after you won the debate or you successfully justify that what you utter is correct, does that make you God's favorite citizen? come on la.. since you guys are so well verse on the New Testament, why not practice what is inside instead of just debating about the contents? |
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Oct 15 2012, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 12:54 PM) Spreading the Good news is a must but in order to do that you need to understand How Salvation is attained. no la.. we are all open adults.. haha..Otherwise how to share Salvation? There are many Christians who still hang on to Salvation by Works rather by grace. Did you know that? That is the purpose of the whole argument. Sorry if it provokes you. you and i are saved by the grace of His love for us. Do you still remember that when Jesus call upon his first disciple, Peter? when Peter is still fishing, Jesus call him to follow him? along with his brother Simon.. and the story of a rich guy whom could not let go of all his riches to follow Jesus? all i want to say is, Jesus give all of you a very simple instruction to follow. To love his people and to be loved by Him. |
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Oct 15 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 15 2012, 12:57 PM) I know where you coming from. Neither are we for debate' sake. We can only hope for mutual respects for one another. Furthermore, the practice comes from the understanding of the truth. How can we practice what we don't know. Mutual respect can only be achieved when there is mutual understanding. Pray and you will know how to practice.. |
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Oct 15 2012, 01:26 PM
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seems we all have mutual understanding after all..
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Oct 15 2012, 02:19 PM
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if your conscience allows you to count how many times you sin, then you also should know what is called shameful right?
and yes, grace will cover ALL your sin as He promised. Grace itself is a manifestation of Jesus's authority to forgive sinners and make them pure. In short, its his love for all mankind. If there is a limit in His grace, then first thing people would ask, does this means His love is limited as well? |
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Oct 16 2012, 01:22 PM
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Matthew 5:19-20
“Trivialize even the smallest item in God’s Law and you will only have trivialized yourself. But take it seriously, show the way for others, and you will find honor in the kingdom. Unless you do far better than the Pharisees in the matters of right living, you won’t know the first thing about entering the kingdom. |
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Oct 17 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 17 2012, 12:14 PM) not to follow the 10 commandment doesn't mean to break all the laws of the 10 commandments. Exodus 20Your problem = your comprehension. I already know from the beginning, you think like this but that is not what I meant. Siaow ar you? The Message (MSG) 20 1-2 God spoke all these words: 3 No other gods, only me. 4-6 No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don’t bow down to them and don’t serve them because I am God, your God, and I’m a most jealous God, punishing the children for any sins their parents pass on to them to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation of those who hate me. But I’m unswervingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments. 7 No using the name of God, your God, in curses or silly banter; God won’t put up with the irreverent use of his name. 8-11 Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Work six days and do everything you need to do. But the seventh day is a Sabbath to God, your God. Don’t do any work—not you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your servant, nor your maid, nor your animals, not even the foreign guest visiting in your town. For in six days God made Heaven, Earth, and sea, and everything in them; he rested on the seventh day. Therefore God blessed the Sabbath day; he set it apart as a holy day. 12 Honor your father and mother so that you’ll live a long time in the land that God, your God, is giving you. 13 No murder. 14 No adultery. 15 No stealing. 16 No lies about your neighbor. 17 No lusting after your neighbor’s house—or wife or servant or maid or ox or donkey. Don’t set your heart on anything that is your neighbor’s. Just a recap for you on what the commandment was all about. Not following means you are not serious about following Jesus if that is what i think it is. If you trust only in the NT on Jesus's teachings but disregard what was told in the OT, then you are mistaken. Both needs to be observe. What you see on the first five commandments was about God and you. And the rest of the five was about you and society. and what was teach in the NT was the simplified version of the OT. Jesus can never take out what was given by His Father nor anyone else. |
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Oct 17 2012, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 17 2012, 04:48 PM) Then by the same virtue you contradict this verse. haha.. i was trying to tell you.. that 10 commandment was to be observe altogether with OT's teachings. Neither one should be taken away nor forgotten.Galatians 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. (NIV) For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God's grace. (NLT) You cannot have both. because here got two faction ma.. one say 10 commandment is the way, the other says Jesus teachings is the way.. but from my understanding, perhaps shallow.. haha.. is that Jesus is the manifestation of God's glory and love towards mankind. Does not mean that now got new teachings and the old teachings can be shut off in the closets. |
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Oct 17 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 17 2012, 05:08 PM) ymc2303 because he is the only righteous man around at that time?What I'm trying to say is this. As Christians we cannot ignore what's the content of the 10 commandments. There is nothing wrong in the contents of the 10 commandments, mind you. It is the Righteous requirement of God after all and you can say it is the picture of God. But you must understand the purpose of it. Why it was given. So that we know what Sin is and HOW sinful we are. That is the design and the purpose of the 10 commandments according to Galatians 3:19. And that purpose is not for you to use as a basis to come to God anymore under the New Covenant. Because if you do that, You deny the work of Jesus. You Deny his Death and He died for Nothing. (Galatians 5:2-3) (Galatians 5:4 ) Did you know that God called the 10 commandment a ministry of death? (2 Corinthians 3:7) Did you know, God called the 10 commandment a dividing wall of hostility? (Ephesians 2:14) And It Takes Christ Blood to set us free from the curse of the 10 commandment? (Galatians 3:13) Look at all the negative words God used in the Bible against the purpose of the 10 commandments. What does that tell you? The 10 commandments was never the Heart of God in the first place. Do you know God hates Self Righteousness? Can you agree with that? Do you know why God gave it through Moses back in the OT? If you can answer that, you'll find another reason why. |
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Oct 17 2012, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 17 2012, 05:24 PM) Well ... look at this way... in one aspect of it k understand.He[Jesus] has uplifted the standard of the law in two ways: by complementing the lower laws and by changing the lower laws into higher laws. In this way the morality in the commandments of the law has been uplifted to a higher standard. He kept all the commandments of the law when He was on earth. Then He went to the cross to die for us. Through His substitutionary death, He fulfilled the law on the negative side. Furthermore, through His substitutionary death, He released His resurrection life into us, and we now have this resurrection life in our spirit. Because we are able to live by this resurrection life, we have the strength, ability, and capacity to have the highest standard of morality. As we walk according to the spirit (Rom. 8:4), we fulfill the righteous requirements of the law, fulfilling even more than the law requires. Therefore, we do not abolish the law; rather, we fulfill it in the highest way. how about we all start a new topic to debate on? so many senior here. enlighten me a bit lo. |
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Nov 20 2012, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(skydrake @ Nov 20 2012, 12:19 PM) brother olga, u might not agreed with this. as your sharing includes your signature which makes most of us hungry now..confidence is from inside, other can see this from your face and the act u have done. arrogant is from outside, its an attitude that act out purposely or verbally. these words does not comes out verbally if a person confidence level high. brother olga, I does not means to offence u. If I really did, I'm sorry If what I said above was wrong, I will admit and I will correct it. add-on: dear all brothers fellowers in here, I really happy that we all able to chat here. I'm truly appreciated all the sharing in here also. |
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