QUOTE(mekboyz @ Apr 7 2011, 11:24 PM)
you are not my lord and saviour and shepard. please dont judge me or you shall be cast into hell. lett he who is not withouteth sin casteth the first stoneth
You're doing it all wrong.
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Feb 23 2012, 09:50 PM
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1 Corinthians 1:18.
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. |
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Feb 23 2012, 09:58 PM
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Feb 23 2012, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(stefanong @ Feb 23 2012, 10:09 PM) No actually to his credit he claims to be skeptic agnostic so faith has no place in this; considering that a skeptic agnostic finds no compelling reason to believe in the existence or the non existence of God. Unfortunately, if one is truly skeptic agnostic there is no reason to attack or criticize another person's faith in a deity just because one believes that ultimately the human mind is incapable of knowledge of the supernatural. It is pointless to argue IMO. Because the way I look at it, it's end purpose is really just to glorify oneself that he is good in arguing.That is being rude and judgmental. His arguments really are repetitious and I have already summarized and answered them. Flogging a dead horse and trying to revive the whole argument by baiting and taunting others really is futile at the end of the day. Very much the trait of RWI regulars. Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God Another explanation is that without Faith you cannot know God in person. Shouldn't be surprise at the rude and judgemental part. The world shape their thoughts and upbringing. They don't know what is really going on. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 23 2012, 10:31 PM |
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QUOTE(pml_318 @ Feb 24 2012, 08:54 AM) Hi everyone, i'm curious but would like know this first before anything: To put it simply it's for fellowship among believers.Is this the kind of religion thread for sharing purpose, to let us all know more about GOD thru explanation and sharing of theories and sometimes debating with believers of agnosticism/atheism/other religions? Or to unite christian at /k? Disclaimer: I'm not a Basher who is trying to deny your claims of whatsoever I know /k is full of ppl fond of calling others slowpoke/stupid/mediocre/fool/ignorant/blablabla |
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Feb 27 2012, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(eXyzt @ Feb 27 2012, 12:59 PM) As described by jdreamer in the first post: It should not be a surprise because Jesus said the reason they hate us is because they hate Him first.*I'm not trying to make this thread into a flaming zone, but still, we welcome any religious forumers to join us here. So, if ur intended to come in here to insult our religion, please stay away from this thread. And if u have any questions about the gospel songs, or even the churches, environments around the churches etc, feel free to ask. They who are of this world are blinded spiritually. The reason for the hatred because they are wounded themselves in their lives by the Enemy. John 10:10: The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. |
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Feb 27 2012, 02:00 PM
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God Bless you Amour.
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Feb 27 2012, 02:04 PM
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Feb 27 2012, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 27 2012, 02:06 PM) Worship God as in thanking him as a creator? No worshiping him because he has broken the chain of oppression, the chain of Financial Lack, the Chain of ignorance, the Chain of Negativism, The Chain of Doubt, etc etc but Most importantly of all the Chain of Sin which result in Eternal Death.LEarn wat word? Im ask becos i feel no meaning go church like waste time but cos is since young like habit. To me is meaningless. Im wonder if u guys also go cos of habit and train since young but u actually dunno wat purpose u there. The word is the word of God, the most powerful thing in the world. Many people feel the same like you do only because you yourself kept your distance from God. |
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Feb 27 2012, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 27 2012, 02:12 PM) Well to put it simply, you cannot go where you want to go if you don't know where you are in life. Think about that for a moment. It's a powerful thought.If you have questions or doubt about your Life, it's time for you to Ask God why do you need to go to Church. |
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Feb 27 2012, 02:13 PM) Church is kinda .... bleh.. I always yawn when I go there. And I don't even listen to what the Father says because it's either it is something I already know or the speech he presents is very very boring.... Other than that, everything seems ok2 to me.. Knowing and practicing God's commandment are 2 different things. For example, Do you threat everyone with respect and love? Can you honestly answer that? If you have not, then you deceive yourself as only hearer of the word but not a doer. |
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Feb 27 2012, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 27 2012, 02:19 PM) I donthave question about my life. I have plans and goals and know where to head and work towards it. Good Luck to your plans. The only question i have is why do i go to chruch or even why do other ppl go to chruch? Whats in their mind? Most probably thinking abou dinner while in church John 15:5: "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. Commit your plans to Him. Like I said Going to Church to worship God and learn his Word. That is as simple as it gets. |
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 27 2012, 02:25 PM) Im already hear the word more than 20 yrs and Im a good person. You hear but you have no revelation of his word.Can it mean i have graduated and no more purpose to b there? Since its repeat every year. Thats y i wonder y ppl go. God's word is the Truth Romans 3:23: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Ecclesiastes 7:20 There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins. if you call yourself Good then you also deny God's word as the truth because nobody is Good. |
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Feb 27 2012, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 27 2012, 02:31 PM) dafuq? u have a bible in front of you or just pull out from your head? Nobody have 100% revelation of the entire Bible, God made it in such away so that we don't get lazy studying the bible everyday.If like dat im sure u already have many revelation about the word. wat the purpose u still go church? It's an everyday effort to know the Bible. Hint: To know God's word is to know God himself. It's not easy. That's why we come to church to learn but the best Bible Teacher is the Holy Spirit teaching you in everyday life experience. Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. |
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Feb 27 2012, 02:36 PM) No, I do not treat everyone with love and respect. Yes, I admit that. I hear the word but I can't entirely execute His word. I'm saying you can because What are you trying to tell me anyway? 1 John 4:4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. If you refuse then you deceive yourself. that's the point. It's wrong for somebody else to deceive others but to deceive yourself is a greater implication. |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 27 2012, 02:37 PM) Haha ... we have a misconception about the church ... or "going to church"... Not entirely true. The church is the foundation for fellowship and for learning the word of god especially for many Christians who are still immature in their christian walk.God’s intention concerning the church is first to produce many sons with His life (1:5). All these sons have the life of God and inherit all that He is, all that He has, all that He planned, and all that He accomplished. Every member of the church is a son of God and also will eventually be an heir of God. In this sense, God’s intention for the church is to multiply and reproduce Himself, to have a mass reproduction of Himself. If a man has many sons, all these sons are his multiplication. A few years ago, there was only the one man by himself, but today there are many of him—he is the original, and his sons are his duplication and multiplication. The multiplication of God is His family, and His family is the church. Ephesians 1:5 speaks of the sonship. The real meaning of sonship is the multiplication of God. God is unlimited, but God still needs a great multiplication. After God created Adam, He told him to multiply and replenish the earth, that is, to fill up the earth (Gen. 1:28). God’s intention for the church is to produce many sons, to multiply Himself. John 12:24 tells us that the one grain would become many grains. The many grains are the multiplication, duplication, and reproduction of the one grain. The multiplication can happen outside of the Church as well. |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 27 2012, 02:44 PM) Haha ... again you fall back on your concept of "going to church".... it is not a place but an entity. To add this.The church is the totality of the divine sonship. Originally, Jesus Christ as the unique Son of God was the individual expression of God. John 1:18 says, “No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” This expression of God by the individual Son, Jesus Christ, was a perfect expression, but it did not fulfill God’s goal. God’s goal is to have the totality of the divine sonship. As the redeemed, forgiven, saved, and regenerated sons of God, we have the divine nature of God (2 Pet. 1:4). So the church is a group of people having the life and living of God, living out Christ on the earth today. The Church is not the really the building or the walls, It's the people. That is the Church. |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 27 2012, 02:49 PM) Err ....I didn't meant multiplication of numbers Well I agree with what you said I've summed up what you said above simplify in #694The church is constituted of God the Father's nature and life, God the Son's element, and God the Spirit's essence (Eph. 1:4-5, 10-11, 13). Ephesians 1:4 and 5 say that God the Father chose us to be holy and predestinated us unto sonship. For us to be holy, to be sanctified, we need His nature. In the whole universe, nothing is holy except God Himself in His divine nature. Only the Father's divine nature is sanctified, holy. God wants to make us holy, sanctified. Therefore, He has to impart His holy nature into us. The Father also has predestinated us unto sonship. For Him to make us sons to participate in His divine sonship involves His life. If He did not impart His life into us, we could not be His sons. Therefore, for us to be sanctified, to be holy, means that we have God's holy nature; for us to be His sons means that we have His life. Ephesians 1:4 and 5 indicate that God the Father as the source imparts His nature and life into His chosen people. Ephesians 1:7-12 speaks of the Son's redemption. The Son brings us into Himself as the element and the sphere into which we have been redeemed. He redeemed us out of the "trash can," and the destination of His redemption is Himself. He redeemed us out of sin, out of the world, and out of the tyranny of Satan into Himself as the element and sphere. By this redemption we, the fallen sinners, have been put into Christ as our element and sphere. With Christ as our divine element, we have been made the inheritance of God (v. 11). We were lost, fallen, corrupt sinners. Corrupt sinners cannot be God's inheritance. But we corrupt, sinful people have been redeemed into Christ. Christ is now our element and our sphere, in which and with which we have been made a treasure unto God to be His inheritance. Christ as the divine element has been imparted into us. Ephesians 1:13 says that we were also sealed with the Holy Spirit. The Father's nature and life, the Son's element, and the Spirit's essence are imparted into us by the sealing. When a seal with sealing ink is stamped on a piece of paper, the ink saturates the paper. The ink as the essence gets into the sealed material. We are the sealed material, and the Spirit brings the essence of the divine element of the divine source into us. Eventually, the sealing Spirit makes us the issue of the Triune God to be the organic Body of Christ (Eph. 1:19-23). We are the issue of the dispensing of the Divine Trinity, which is the "inking" of the Triune God into us. The Father's life and nature, the Son's element, and the Spirit's essence are dispensed into our being to saturate us thoroughly. Then we become the issue of the dispensing of the Triune God. We are the issue of the essence, the element, and the source. We are the issue of the Triune God, and this issue is the church, the Body of Christ. The Father is in the Son, the Son is the Spirit, and the Spirit is the essence of the Body. Our Triune God-the Father, the Son, and the Spirit-is in the Body. |
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 27 2012, 02:48 PM) So u mean the church is made up of all people not the building? Like dat there no point of me going to church but i carry the church with me without having go church lo. Now i kinda understand abit and is more logic than going churhc every week But you are still young in your Christian walk, you need for time being someone to guide you, that's why Churches have leaders and Care groups.not to insult but that kinda MLM talk abit Alone is very hard to grow. I'll tell you what, anything you're not sure you can PM me I can be your temporary older brother in Christ and help you in knowledge whatever I know of. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 27 2012, 02:59 PM |
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