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post Apr 8 2011, 12:00 AM

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i got a question here:

isnt that the 10 commandment has been fulfill by Jesus?

therefore we dont just obey for the sake of obeying God's law but instead obeying it because Jesus had died for us? which is also means that Jesus told us to obey the 10 commandments therefore we should do it?

1 of the example which is the 4th 1. the sabbath. actually we no need to go church on saturday, instead we gather on sunday. so actually means that Jesus had been fulfilled this commandments, therefore we need to obey the other 9 to show our love to God?

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post Apr 8 2011, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 8 2011, 12:56 AM)
To those who think God is being unfair to them.

Listen.

Until you understood the meaning of pain and sadness, you will never understand the importance of happiness.

The universe is created in such a way that pain is an inevitable prerequisite, so much so as to give new meanings to those who overcome it.

Because if pain is so unbearable, I tell you the truth.

Happiness is not what you're getting usually, but rather, it is in abundance.

It is painful I know.

You ask questions.

You complain.

And what did God do?

He did not answer your questions.

He gave no answers.

Instead, he gave Himself...that inevitably leads Him to the cross.

Do y'all understand that you may be asking the wrong questions?

When you asked, why let me suffer the pain?

He did not give you answers. He gave Himself, and my goodness, how much pain has he given unto Himself.

Not only did He suffered, but He ACTUALLY DIED.

Wouldn't that be the saddest way to answer of painful questions about our problems?

You bet it does.

But I suppose y'all know the story.

The Resurrection. It changes everything. Pain and Death was faced, and defeated utterly.

The pain and happiness network and algorithms that God created is so bizarre that even one with full wisdom about pain will experience pain. The only reassurance right here is for wisdom to enlightened within us, to tell us that happiness exist in all of these pain, except that it MUST go through the process of pain.

One exception. Only those who are completely enlightened with pure wisdom, can actually experience happiness all year round, with minimal pain in life, unlike most people. But if we do not possess such wisdom, then you BETTER LOVE the HARD WAY than TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT.

Such is the system between pain and joy. Remember the story of one who owes more money than the other person. When the creditor decided that both do not need to pay their debts anymore, who will the one with the most joy? The one who owes the most money, i.e the most pain.
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i understand what are you trying to say but different people sadness differ from each another, same goes to happiness. people blame God for their own reason, even me, i often blame God when i'm sad or in the midst of failure, but also praise God when i'm happy

happiness has its own meaning for every searching heart.

when it comes to pain, although our feeling towards pain maybe the same, but it also depends how people deal with it, some blame God but do nothing, some will find some entertainment to cure it, some waits for the opportunity to turns things back to normal, and some just wait time to cure it

but for me, i found out that i dont need any painful experience to pursuit happiness, i'm happy as long there is nothing bothering me..but too bad, many unlucky things happen to me recently eg: studies, time management, forever alone problems. but do i need to go though this to experience happiness? for me i dont think so

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post Apr 8 2011, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Pinarello @ Apr 8 2011, 12:45 AM)
The 10 commandments were Laws written because ppl in the time before Jesus came only know how to obey instructions by rules and written guidelines. Thats why God had to write it down so the Israelites could read and understand them. It was the only way to keep them from sinning and to obey Gods commands.

When Jesus came, He came as the sacrifice for anyone who broke those laws, and therefore completing/fulfilling them from start to end (life to death) (Not just the 10, but all of Gods laws) (Penalty of sinning against Gods laws is death). We obey because we have opened our eyes and seen that its good to obey some good common sense that God has for us or else we will be like sheep without a shepherd.

The 4th commandment was to keep the sabbath day holy (means to honour a special day for God as He has determined). In the old days its saturday. Nowdays its sunday (popularly). But it doesnt mean we cannot have church on saturday. We can. Just what God means was keep one day of the weekend for Him to gather as a church, worship praise and listen to Gods word together. The purpose of sunday/saturday church is to GATHER TOGETHER and WORSHIP + LISTEN to Gods Word and experience Him deeper.

So it shud be we love God so much that when we are filled in our hearts with Gods love, and the Holy Spirit, it will be natural to follow His commandments. The Holy Spirit has a nature of being righteous. This is our conscience. NOT we obey the commandments to show God we love Him. Its different. But because our sinful body and mind still has the potential to sin, therefore sometimes its good to read these laws as reminders. Not to condem ourselves or use it to judge others.

So if you ask. SHOULD WE? Yes we should.

But it is humanly impossible and i dare say no Christian can ever keep all of Gods law. Simply coz we have a sinners nature in us all (passed by Adam n Eve). If we sin we die (Die as in our spirit will be destroyed in hell, seperated from God forever). Christ died so that His blood can wash our sins. God see's Christ blood as the only thing able to redeem all sins. And the only way to receive Christ blood is by believing in His death and resurrection on the cross.

To receive Christ blood is to be forgiven. Once forgiven , we are empowered with many things to do according to Gods purposes.
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yea, quite a helpful reply
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post Apr 8 2011, 07:03 PM

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hmm, it takes time for me to understand the whole thing LOL, although i'm still not fully understand this, but will save it in my pc for future reference. anyway thanks for spending time for this article
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:44 PM

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wahhh pehkay, why you so smart 1? sometimes really kennot brain your explanation also, which church do you go? i am kinda curios
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Apr 14 2011, 11:13 PM)
And He will punish those whom He divorce and separates?


Added on April 14, 2011, 11:16 pmAnd this is God of peace?
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but it still comes from our consequences right? He doesnt makes people divorce

couple are those who make themselves divorce, if the couple divorce, its God's plan. but if the couple manage to hold on, its still God's plan right?

but thinking back, this is a lil bit unfair to us la as a human being, sometimes is out of control, maybe due to 3rd party or other reason
thats why jesus was meant for us, He didnt died for justice, but to save us

my 2 cent only

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post Apr 16 2011, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Apr 16 2011, 01:05 AM)
debbiesys, being an atheist for more then half my life, i can honestly tell you that you do not need a god to be a good person. the question now is not whether god exists or not, but instead it is do we still need that story in today's world?

but that's my opinion la dont report me k unsure.gif
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you are wrong, what you are looking at is just a view from the earth, and to the earth, nothing more.

what we christian believe is our current life on earth, and most importantly, our eternal life.
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post Apr 16 2011, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Apr 16 2011, 01:13 AM)
sigh. this is it isnt. why people believe in god. because without it they feel that they dont have meaning in their life. your goal in life is to enter heaven?
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yeah, if God didnt even promise us heaven. why should i love and obey Him at the 1st place?
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post Apr 20 2011, 01:36 AM

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hey, what are you guys think about lady gaga, after she released the song named Judas?

i used to like her Just dance and Telephone, after hearing judas it just make me feel sick. do you think she over the limit now?
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post Apr 20 2011, 01:50 AM

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btw, i got some question regarding about the bible

in matthew 7:13-14
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. ........

how few is few? as we all know, at least 30%(well in my opinion there is more than 50%) of world population is a christian. so is 30% consider few?

the verses makes me wonder that only a certain percentage, maybe only 2 or 3% can only enter the kingdom of God....
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post May 21 2011, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ May 20 2011, 07:14 PM)
do note that your winnings are gained from the losses of others.
Do you take pride and joy in gaining from the loss of others then?

The key point in lottery and 4D and those SMS contest is that it gives some hope for those who are clueless to make it big. (yes, SMS contest is still like a lottery, you spend money and win by chance from the demise of others)

Now supposing you do win big...in what way then does this lump of money glorifies God then? Your win is others' losses!
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but but but if you dont win others also will lose brows.gif

actually i dont mind christian that play toto or 4d as long they dont overbuy it. 1 time 10 bucks still ok la. if 1 time 100 or 200 then i think its really abnormal

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