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post Apr 8 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Apr 8 2011, 09:19 AM)
I know your reply doesn't refer to me but I would like to share my view.

I never blame God for what had happened to me, big problem or small problem. All I do is through prayer, move His hand to restore things to be better.

The thing is when things don't turn out after you have put your faith in, but more and more problems coming out, you might wonder if it's God's will, and you might wonder if your prayers are not pleasing, or something wrong with your prayers. And whenever you see your christian fellows, or even non-christians, getting what they want, you might want to do something and ask from God giving you the same. Please take note, things that I refer to now is not straight As in SPM or STPM or CGPA or entering which top Uni or big company, I'm merely asking for a simple family. That's all.

If you did trace back the post I shared a little bit earlier on, check out the website and see how many women out there, faithfully and genuinely loving their husbands, having intimate relationship since their dating stage but out of a sudden, after 5 years of marriage, their husbands have affair with another women, some husbands even shifted out and left the children behind.

If this husband is predestined to betray the wife, why would God allows them to get married? Have you seen people who face too much of stress and disappointments and in the end they cry fainted and go insane?

I would rather my life go simple, than to have a very blessed and wonderful beginning but in the end huge disappointment, like a huge rock drops on your body.

The higher you have faith in something, the painful you feel. Some people who are proud and stubborn, little bit of failure will boost up their motivation to grow, but to those who are having simple life all along, these disappointments are just too much for them to bear, which is not helpful in moulding a person's life.
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First of all, keep in mind that salvation means we are free of the penalty of sin. After salvation, we have to work to be free from the power of sin.

So whether you are single or married, we will still be tempted with lust. Husbands are not predestined to betray their wife. It's their choice.

Remember free will. It's like you know your best friend is dating a jerk. You can advise her all you want but if she chooses to marry him, that's up to her. God works in the same way. He shows you and guides you away from the bad stuff. If you choose to ignore Him and still do it, that's up to you.

So with regards to marriage, whoever you choose to marry is your own choice. God won't stop you. If you happen to marry an unfaithful person, you will have to live with the consequences. That's why also in the Bible, we are discouraged from marrying non-believers. Not that they are bad, but our faith might be jeopardized.

That's why I like my pastor's advice: When you are dating, look with both eyes open wide. Whe you are married, keep one eye close. Dating is when you evaluate whether you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. Marriage is living with him/her and working to make the relationship work.
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post Apr 20 2011, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Apr 20 2011, 09:28 AM)
Brother, you no need to sleep meh? Replied my post at 5.04am!

Well, the initial motive i asked this question isn't that I do not understand, I just wanted to point out the confusing matters aroused among christians. I also want to say if eating offered food doesn't make you sin, then why are there christians arguing this? Apparently this has so much to do with sin, Paul also mentions about this that taking offered food has something to do according to the people of little faith or strong faith.

And, I don't think you need to clarify to me alone, or other forumers who are reading this, because there are MANY more christians are arguing about this. If Christ has been emphasizing the importance of faith, that salvation is gained by faith etc, then there won't be so many churches are trying to "theoreticalize" the teachings.
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he memang no need sleep... brows.gif

I think an important point to remember is: Christianity is about having a relationship with God, it's not about religion. We are saved by Jesus' blood and now, we are grateful to Him. How we show our gratefulness? By obeying His commands and doing His work on Earth. Everything we do must be motivated by His love and to show His love to the world. So issues on whether to eat sacrifical food, obey the speed limit, drinking, etc. is all about what the Holy Spirit has convicted you in your heart to do. Some make a stand by not drinking. Some obey the speed limit. Some are convicted not to eat food sacrificed to idols. It's about what God has led you to make a stand for.

I'm not sure what teachings you are talking about but in essence, any speaker in church service should be led by God to speak His word. The weekly services give us an opportunity to fellowship with fellow believers, experience the presense of God in a very tangible way, hear His word and strengthen one another for the week to come. Also, the setting allows God to move mightily in our hearts.
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post Jul 17 2011, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Pinarello @ Jul 16 2011, 11:29 PM)
Anyone here attending Asia Ablaze Conference in Stadium Putra, Bkt Jalil on 2-4 August 2011?

Rodney Howard Brown gona bring lots of imparting gifts of the spirit, gona be loads of revelations and real life stuffs.

Revival might be on its way to this nation sooner that we expected. Time and season of glory invasion of heaven on earth, to see the whole world taken back to Gods Kingdom.

All welcomed to join and experience the REAL stuff of life.

Habakkuk 2:14 - For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.


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Revival is definitely coming sooner. We have to think in months, not years.
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post Aug 5 2011, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(Novell87 @ Aug 4 2011, 11:23 PM)
Hope someone can help me out here. I'm not a christian but I do believe in christianity and god. Would love to make my 1st step into christianity but i do not know where to start. Duno which church to attend as I do not have close friends that I can tagged along to church.
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You can just step into any church for their services. Do check out different churches and see which you feel most at home. You can start with churches near your home. Where do you stay?
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post Aug 5 2011, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(Novell87 @ Aug 5 2011, 01:20 AM)
Nearby PJ ss2..I don't know what am I suppose to do when I walk In because I'm not a christian. And I guess, everyone who go for the service is a christian. I have never really been to a church service before.
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DUMC and FGA are down the road at Section 13. Not everyone who goes for service is a christian. Otherwise, where do all the salvations come from? smile.gif

Just come and be yourself.
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Feb 21 2012, 01:02 PM)
I am an agnostic here. I do not understand why the religious scriptures that originated from Middle East such as Torah, Talmud, Bible and Koran contained violent teachings and injunctions? I tried the Old Testament, read it and cannot accept how can a "god of mercy" condoned the genocide, massacre and atrocious treatment towards certain inhabitants like the Canaanites, Amorites, etc? This is quite absurd.

I think that parts of Old Testament were Jewish myth that seek to condemn their enemies. Anyone can have better explanation? I do not want the explanation of periodic difference such as warfare period and grace period(New Testament). This is not so solid arguments.
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Bro, wrong thread. I believe you can get the answers you seek in RWI.
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:05 PM)
I know. But can a Christian marry a non believer?(I know yes u can, but it is encouraged by the religion?) What if she/he does. Will he/she be subjected to scorn or treated as a traitor to the religion? That's all i want to know.
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No scorn but you will have more trouble in your relationship. Non-Christians are spiritually dead (i.e. they don't have the Holy Spirit living in them). So being in a relationship with one is like being in a relationship with a dead person.
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Black2690 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:19 PM)
well i also want to know. i got a lot of Family member marry with other Religions.
From what i know. once you Leave Christian, you cannot re-enter Christian. i think same goes for other Religion.
If there's any knowledgeable ppl here.. please enlighten us here.. smile.gif
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Like what stefanong said, Christianity is about your relationship with God. When God says not to be yoked with unbelievers (such as through marriage), He is warning us in order that our faith will not be destroyed.

Say you marry a non-Christian, would they be able to understand you going to church every Sunday? What if God nudges you to go on missions? Would your non-Christian partner be able to let you go? These are some issues that may crop up lah...

QUOTE(Black2690 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:21 PM)
well it's true.. no hard feeling..
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post Feb 22 2012, 04:32 PM

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May I recommend this thread for you all to continue your discussion: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2176065
I think if we further this discussion here, it will come under serious religious talk which is not allowed in Kopitiam.
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post Feb 23 2012, 10:08 AM

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Guys! Please read the first page of this thread. Your discussion above is for RWI. Please post in the correct place.
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post Feb 24 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Feb 24 2012, 08:29 AM)
My refutations was deleted. Yes, I am a skeptic agnostic and open to criticism. And no, you didn't refute me in any way, sir. You merely attempt to explain away the OT. My apology if I hurt you in any way. How about you move this thread to "Serious Kopitiam"?

But deleting my comments, that's odd, just like banning of books and literature.
So, you know the "truth" then?
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No, this topic is for general chat. There is already a topic in RWI that discusses religion. That's also why your comments were deleted. It has no place in here but should be put in RWI. If we start debating religion here, the mods will delete the thread.
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post Feb 24 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(pml_318 @ Feb 24 2012, 08:54 AM)
Hi everyone, i'm curious but would like know this first before anything:

Is this the kind of religion thread for sharing purpose, to let us all know more about GOD thru explanation and sharing of theories and sometimes debating with believers of agnosticism/atheism/other religions?

Or to unite christian at /k?

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I'm not a Basher who is trying to deny your claims of whatsoever
I know /k is full of ppl fond of calling others slowpoke/stupid/mediocre/fool/ignorant/blablabla
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This is a social thread for Christians. We do explain Christianity but debate is left to RWI. For a more detailed explanation, check out the first post.

QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Feb 24 2012, 08:57 AM)
The topic at RWI is generally for all religions. I would prefer a topic for each religion, so that I can refute them all. I cannot use my arguments against the Koran for the Bible, vice versa.

Sorry guys, and Moderator too.
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Read the topic. You can debate 1 religion at a time. I believe currently they are debating Islam.
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post Feb 27 2012, 12:59 PM

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As described by jdreamer in the first post:

*I'm not trying to make this thread into a flaming zone, but still, we welcome any religious forumers to join us here. So, if ur intended to come in here to insult our religion, please stay away from this thread. And if u have any questions about the gospel songs, or even the churches, environments around the churches etc, feel free to ask.
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post Mar 21 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Piros @ Mar 21 2012, 10:40 AM)
Bro, this is not a good place to discuss this issues. Mainly because they're many Christians here from different denominations with different doctrine.Don't ever think "Christians" can be grouped. They're just way too many teaching that's out of the way of the real teaching.

Best way? Pick up the bible and read it up for yourself (NKJV or ESV is the better translation due to the way they translate it. KJV is usable but mostly in old english so a bit hard to understand). If you don't understand get a commentary.

Finding a pastor to guide you is the best way, that person then must be someone who expound from the scriptures itself, meaning no own thoughts put into the expounding.
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Bro, Christians can group. Different denominations just means different ways to do things. Most important, we all have a relationship with God.

QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Mar 21 2012, 10:46 AM)
then even worst, he must be here snooping out for virgins cause most of christian girl preserve until marry
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He's quite quiet recently though. Hmm... whistling.gif
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post Apr 6 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 12:15 PM)
some no more go church..some oversea..

tak faham la..can elaborate further?
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where you stay? why not just go to a church nearby?
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post Apr 19 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Apr 19 2012, 11:00 AM)
Is wat this guy say true? Jesus is islam and he got say "i will build my islam"??
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No, the correct words in the verse is: And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

His definition of freedom of religion is also wrong. Freedom is religion is the freedom to profess a certain religion AND change/leave any religion.

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