Greetings in the name of our Lord Christ Jesus.

Whazzap folks?

why are we all NOT surprised. lulz.

oh hai thar. you here too

sounds like a trick question to me

This post has been edited by Pinarello: Apr 4 2011, 10:00 PM

kes need to take to mahkamah agung me thinks............

In the middle of every difficulty lies an opportunity - Albert Einstien

Don’t find fault. Find a remedy. – Henry Ford

Not really biblical words from the Bible but it just might be God inspired words of wisdom that any person can take.

First of all i believe God wants us to marry the right person for each other. But the choice is up to us. We can ask God who we wana marry, pray about it etc. He may/may not give an answer. If He gives blessed is he/she. If not, He probably wants you to use your own wisdom, maturity and judgment.

God wants us to extend all our hearts content to Him , yes. But He isnt forcing. Its one's choice. Freewill. If God didnt give freewill then we are akin to being under dictatorship by a super-all-mighty leader. Its not God's nature.

Therefore it isnt God that marries two ppl together. He would give a certain degree of blessing (like good finance, children, or good home) but He does not force marriage. Marriage is the mutual agreement between two souls to join together in matrimony (which shud be holy and sacred). Its up to the two individuals. God cannot stop a marriage even He finds it unsuitable because He cannot go against His nature of freewill to let the creations He loves to share life together.

God knows what every person needs and wants. But He cannot possibly force upon someone anything he/she doesnt want, even though it maybe good. Having said that, God isnt really keen to punish those who dont listen to Him. He would watch your steps, and He wouldnt lead you to a dead end. But if one does end up in a dead end, thats where one can ask God (if the person wants) for a solution.

If it is in Gods plan that ones path is slightly narrow, hard, difficult, or painful..........dont find fault. Find a solution. And that can either be turning to God, praying, counseling etc. In the middle of difficulties, lies an opportunity to seek God. I mean, still the choice to seek is up to the person. God doesnt control ones feelings, mind, emotions, decisions. Those are entirely up to the person. Its just that God will always be ready for a change of plans. Its probably like God has even planned to have unplanned plans to plan for unplanned circumstances. In God there isnt a Plan B. I , nor anyone can ever understand how God works coz He's just too big for our tiny minds.

Thats my sharing.

The debt was paid so that our sins can be forgiven and the link between humans and God is restored. Meaning we can have access to His rich blessings and favours etc. It DOESNT guarantee sin/troubles/grief/bad stuffs WILL be removed permanently, as long as we are here in this sinful troublesome earth. Thats obstacle no.1

The other obstacle is the devil aka Mr S.A.Tan who just wants to steal kill and destroy lives. Thats obstacle no.2

He wants to bless everyone YES. You are right here. But not everyone has asked. So He wont force a blessing on anyone. I want to bless you with a really nice dinner, but you dont want to eat. So it cannot be forced though it is good. God respects ppls choice.

And those who asked , some get it. Good then. Some dont get? God said that His grace is more than sufficient for our needs. If you dont get what you asked, still those who surrender under God's mighty hands are covered by His grace still to get tru the bad times. Why sometimes God doesnt give what ppl asked for? This is something nobody can answer except God Himself. But His reasons are always with a purpose. Are we to just believe in God JUST SO we can get all the blessings? I think God has something higher for us than just living with blessings. He wants us to live EMPOWERED to do great and mighty stuff. That is the core of Gods purpose. The blessings are just side bonuses if you will.

Why good christians suffer? Coz we are all in the same wicked and sinful earth. We are not immune. The only place we wont suffer is in heaven.

The vision God has for everyone is far greater than many will think/see. But alot of the times, even christians together and non christians see what is in front of their eyes, or what is predominantly on their minds.

If you really want to know what God actually wants from us or wants us to do, i can only share these few verses :

Matthew 22:36-40 (The Message)

The Most Important Command
34-36When the Pharisees heard how he had bested the Sadducees, they gathered their forces for an assault. One of their religion scholars spoke for them, posing a question they hoped would show him up: "Teacher, which command in God's Law is the most important?"

37-40Jesus said, "'Love the Lord your God with all your passion and prayer and intelligence.' This is the most important, the first on any list. But there is a second to set alongside it: 'Love others as well as you love yourself.' These two commands are pegs; everything in God's Law and the Prophets hangs from them."


Matthew 28:16-20 (The Message)

16-17Meanwhile, the eleven disciples were on their way to Galilee, headed for the mountain Jesus had set for their reunion. The moment they saw him they worshiped him. Some, though, held back, not sure about worship, about risking themselves totally.

18-20Jesus, undeterred, went right ahead and gave his charge: "God authorized and commanded me to commission you: Go out and train everyone you meet, far and near, in this way of life, marking them by baptism in the threefold name: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Then instruct them in the practice of all I have commanded you. I'll be with you as you do this, day after day after day, right up to the end of the age."

The 10 commandments were Laws written because ppl in the time before Jesus came only know how to obey instructions by rules and written guidelines. Thats why God had to write it down so the Israelites could read and understand them. It was the only way to keep them from sinning and to obey Gods commands.

When Jesus came, He came as the sacrifice for anyone who broke those laws, and therefore completing/fulfilling them from start to end (life to death) (Not just the 10, but all of Gods laws) (Penalty of sinning against Gods laws is death). We obey because we have opened our eyes and seen that its good to obey some good common sense that God has for us or else we will be like sheep without a shepherd.

The 4th commandment was to keep the sabbath day holy (means to honour a special day for God as He has determined). In the old days its saturday. Nowdays its sunday (popularly). But it doesnt mean we cannot have church on saturday. We can. Just what God means was keep one day of the weekend for Him to gather as a church, worship praise and listen to Gods word together. The purpose of sunday/saturday church is to GATHER TOGETHER and WORSHIP + LISTEN to Gods Word and experience Him deeper.

So it shud be we love God so much that when we are filled in our hearts with Gods love, and the Holy Spirit, it will be natural to follow His commandments. The Holy Spirit has a nature of being righteous. This is our conscience. NOT we obey the commandments to show God we love Him. Its different. But because our sinful body and mind still has the potential to sin, therefore sometimes its good to read these laws as reminders. Not to condem ourselves or use it to judge others.

So if you ask. SHOULD WE? Yes we should.

But it is humanly impossible and i dare say no Christian can ever keep all of Gods law. Simply coz we have a sinners nature in us all (passed by Adam n Eve). If we sin we die (Die as in our spirit will be destroyed in hell, seperated from God forever). Christ died so that His blood can wash our sins. God see's Christ blood as the only thing able to redeem all sins. And the only way to receive Christ blood is by believing in His death and resurrection on the cross.

To receive Christ blood is to be forgiven. Once forgiven , we are empowered with many things to do according to Gods purposes.

Dear Debbie , you should not be focusing so much of the problems here on earth. Every problem we face and we question God is absolutely fine. God wont mind. But I hope that none of us dwells so much on a problem that it becomes part of our innerself. We become what we behold. If we dwell and keep thinking abt negative problems, it tends to affect other areas of our life.

I just pray from the very bottom of my heart, God gives you wisdom and understanding to see pass all these.

I know lots of marriages and many other things in life goes wrong. Its terrible. Is God allowing all these sufferings? Surely not. It is not God's nature and not ever in His heart to see suffering.

But God cannot erase or over rule ones decision that will lead/cause suffering. Got does not plan for suffering. He does not marry two lives together that will make discord. He does know what ones choices, inclinations, favourites, and thoughts are. But He still cannot disrespect one's freewill of choice to choose and go into something if that somethings still brings problems upon that person.

You know Debbie, since you are aware that such problems exist, have you prayed for these troubled people? That you are so burdened to see these ppl set free from their problems?

I believe the power of your prayer (not just for yourself) but for others is extremely effective. You wana pray in whatever way you want to God, I am sure He will listen.

God does not reject any prayers. He keeps it. And highly likely He will send an answer.

The only issue is : Did we hear that answer correctly? Did we receive that answer properly? Sometimes He doesnt give a solution right on. He gives us a choice/action to take to achieve that solution. God answers and gives solutions in many different ways. IF He kept giving a straight solution its like Him being a vending machine everytime we put money (our prayers) in it. God is not like that.

I still pray God reveals to you. In the most amazing powerful ways..........may He show you something good.

Bless you brother for such a long lengthy answer

Hey bro, if u want to understand better, its simple : You can ask God to help u understand through Him.

You may/may not get it all now. Its fine. Alot of us cant really get it all too. God is just too big and too amazing.

Amen

Bless you brother

Another Amen to that bro.

1. A man is not really predestined to betray. A man chooses if he wants to betray. That is much influenced by alot of factors (past hurts/him being betrayed himself by others/strong desires or lust for other things other than marriage/etc). So therefore because of his past, probably thats why he in the end betrays others. And again it is said, God allowed because He respects the freewill of the couple to join in marriage. God cannot force the marriage to be stopped. If God sees the marriage will be bad, He still cannot over rule the choice ppl make.

Your question goes the same for alot of us. It is not a Why God Allows question. It is more of a Are We Practising Enough Wisdom and Counsel before getting married. Thats probably why in every church there are PRE-marriage counsel and helplines to avoid this sort of issues.

God respects the choices of His creations. He cannot force. He cannot take back. BUT HE DOES ALLOW U-TURNS if we make a mistake.

2. YES. Seek Godly counsel is the first step towards healing and restoration. Go to a pastor, one with experience handling marriage issues. This is the wisest move a wife can do in this kind of situation. Get lots and lots of support from church members closest, esp those who are married. Pray together. Secondly know that God is always faithful. He does not leave anyone alone. Probably sometimes we are the ones who left God first. HOpefully that is not the case. (I answer based on a Christian context.)

This you have to surrender and lay down your life. Throw everything that doesnt help you listen/advance/expand/explore with God further.

The basic idea is first KNOW GOD AS A RELATIONSHIP FIRST. you dont need to be superwoman or wondergirl and try help things out for God when you really cannot. I know your heart has a heavy burden to see many of these sufferings end. But know that God is faithful and is in control. It is not our job to change lives or be the superhero. That is Gods job. He does all the miracles signs wonders and transformations. NOT us. We do the possible (sharing the Word, share the same love we experience with God with others, be good testimonies, evangelize, teach young generation, bless and pray). Let God be God and let Him do the hardwork for you.

You dont have to feel useless if things dont go your way or your prayers dont get answered. God might have other plans. Or sometimes the effect of the prayer takes time. It may not be instant.

God said "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled"

Wisdom yah. You dont need to help God to get things done. But you can interceed (pray on behalf of people) which is good.

Problems happen for sure here in life. If it happens fine. But are we to let the problems bug us? No. We should take authority which was given by God to overcome circumstances. We are not to sit and just accept. No. We are to go into the battle front and take the bull by its horns.

We have a God that backs us up. We have a God who is gracious. We have a God who is comforting. Jesus had lots of problems. He was tempted to prove He was God. He denied the devil. He commanded the devil to leave. So we can use the name of Jesus to overcome problems.

We can believe for instant solution (depending on the amount of faith one has. But even then, God said that even faith as small as a mustard seed is more than enough for Him to use it to do miracles.) but if no instant solution comes, just know that Gods hand is still upon His people who put faith trust in Him. The most important thing is , amidst all these problems, do we still look to Jesus and love Him?

So my definite answer is, if there is a problem. report it to God. Tell the problem how big is God, not tell God how big is the problem.

Be blessed. =)

This post has been edited by Pinarello: Apr 9 2011, 04:22 PM

The new F Word in church.

Be blessed =)

it is fine if my answer doesnt convince you. I will just believe God will show and do something in you.

My prayers go out to you. May the Holy Spirit guide you. May Gods love always be with you. Revelations will come to you.

=)

everyone, lets join faith and pray for Debbie.

We all wana see the body of Christ grow more and more in His likeness yah.

One of the commandments is to love others [both the lost and the saved alike] as ourselves.

The truth shall set the captives free. There is freedom in the name of Jesus.

A soldier never leaves a wounded comrade behind in battle. We shall support each other.

i pray to bless her. =)

and i will pray the same for you too. =)

Pray for Israel and Jeruselam. The time for God's children to return home is coming soon. The land of Abraham has been standing long in the midst of modern turmoil and unrest. No land has ever stand such a long test and still survive as still a nation.

The Roman empire , the chinese empire, the revolution, the holy wars.

Gods hands are always on His promised land and his people.

Anyone here attending Asia Ablaze Conference in Stadium Putra, Bkt Jalil on 2-4 August 2011?

Rodney Howard Brown gona bring lots of imparting gifts of the spirit, gona be loads of revelations and real life stuffs.

Revival might be on its way to this nation sooner that we expected. Time and season of glory invasion of heaven on earth, to see the whole world taken back to Gods Kingdom.

All welcomed to join and experience the REAL stuff of life.

Habakkuk 2:14 - For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

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