Bro Wintersun, you were in control with the previous replies until you started to lose it slowly and ended with this post.

I was wanting to see more legit discussions from someone who believes and someone who don't.

And yes "unknown warrior", you do sound like a hypocrite online with those words. I believe it is not your fault though because you haven't learn the way to approach non-Christians by straight stuffing down their throats with scripture verses, that is not how God approached sinful men in the first place.

I am not saying you are wrong, just be more approachable next time.

And yes, I am a Christian. I've seen alot of hypocrites in real life too, but that's a separate issue.

breaking news,Pastor Kong Hee and his gang are arrested! Anyway,I feel that this CHC is really the biggest scam in the universe.Even bigger than Lampeberger and such.
The way they get new members in is really like MLM scheme.The best part is the chuch doensnt have to pay anything to the recruiter.So the recruiter brings in another 10 of his friends.
And they always use the word of GOD to brainwash these people into parting with their money saying their tithes and offerings will be returned to them 30 fold and 100 fold.Of course when so many people are giving,you feel obligated to give too.

SO this goes on and on until their membership reaches a few thousand people.The worst part is they keep asking $ for building fund almost every year.Almost everything in CHC is about MONEY and MONEY! Everyone is trying to sell something in church. The list goes on.
And there are cell groups where they collect tithes and offerings .Come on lah,already gave at church then during cell group still wanna collect? Really like MLM scheme lah..

I dont know what else to say,CHC is the biggest scam ever and some of their LOYAL supporters are still supporting them! Ridicolous and blind supporters!

When u go there , they make u feel good! Like one of those lampeberger brainwashing sessions. Then they ask u to part with ur money. Of cuz no obligation! But u will feel embarassed if u r the only one nt giving.

The problem is CHC uses GOD to earn money. They collect tithes, then theres building fund, thn thrs mission trip fund, then theres all sorta other funds. It gets me sick to the bones that while they are collecting money for building fund, the pastor in KL is living a life of luxury.

Always seen with exp items, merc cls 500 amg, a new abarth car, luxury clothing, luxury home in subang jaya etc etc. if you think lampebeger is bad, wait till u see CHC!

Who ever says Christian songs are boring is really missing out a lot. 

You know back then, I've never missed out on the secular music scene because I like music very much but ever since God lead me to more and more

Christian Artists, I realize the beauty of real music have been gracefully given to our talented Christian musicians. Secular music scene for me

has been going down the drain ever since we have drop of quality music and stuff like Justin Bieber.

We have everything covered from most genre Hip Hop, Pop, Rock, etc. Have been hooked to Christian music ever since.

I go sleep first. To be continued.