That is correct but to consolidate the difference of doctrine, irregardless of denominations,

Jesus Salvation at the Cross is the key doctrine.

Denomination differs in practices but all doctrine is from in the Bible.

Anything outside can hardly be classified as Christianity, example Mormons and Jehovah witness.

Jehovah's Witnesses' beliefs are based on their interpretations of the Bible, with a preference for their own translation, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. They ain't Christianity so you say, okay.jpg

lol. peace bro.

I believe this is in regards to requirement of Salvation.
Works of Good nor evil does not qualify for Salvation.

Correct me if I'm wrong pehkey if that is what you meant.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 21 2012, 10:53 AM

Well unless you can tell me which part of their interpretation of the bible is correct and the rest of the Christian, is wrong, then we have something of basis to discuss.

ok thanks

No problem bro.

God bless.

Thats right!!! All is only base on interpretation of a book written >9k yrs ago.

A good lawyer can interpret that Satan in the bible is actually god and a good storyteller can tell Oscar winning stories. Nothing is proven correct. You say other denomination interpret wrong while others say you wrong. Nobody is correct becos it cant be proof!!

that's the problem. i don see your interpretation as wrong or right, neither do i see theirs as so anymore than i see mine as right. i see many similarities and of coz differences. they can say the same thing about your interpretation. that's my point bro... the point is who is anyone to say that a certain denomination is not Christianity? everyone who thinks they r christians, jehovah witness, mainstream, obscure and whatnot believe they r following the right God home.

This post has been edited by hotjake: Mar 21 2012, 11:02 AM

Bro,

I am just afraid, that something I tend to go to one extreme to point out that how extreme we are on the other end (we tend to be too much in the line of the knowledge of good and evil.

I would like to say, yes, all these ethical concepts, moral concepts, and concepts such as serving the Lord and laboring for the Lord exist in the Bible. These items are found in the Bible, but they are the issues of the divine life that is in the Bible. This may be likened to a pot of flowers. They have their outward appearance, shape, and color. However, their outward shape and color are not something only external; they are the growth and expression of the life within the flowers. Every kind of life has the essence, the power, and the shape of that life. If you allow this life to develop, its shape and outward appearance will become manifested. Therefore, the outward appearance is the expression of the life within.

The highest morality spontaneously from enjoying and being filled with the Lord as the divine life. Otherwise, we will experience Romans 7 like Paul. Paul struggled to do according to the 10 commandments. He is amazing .. able to fulfill all 9 except one. Yet, he declared "Wretched man that I am ...". Only in Romans 8 did He say that all He had to do was to experience and enjoy the Lord as the law of the Spirit of life.

Why is it that we often read the Bible as if it were a book on ethics and morality? This is because ethics and morality are in our concepts. Why is it that when we read the Bible, all we can see is that we need to serve the Lord, to labor for the Lord, to be zealous for the Lord, and to do this or that for the Lord? This also is because these notions already exist in us. Therefore, it is easy to see these items when we read the Bible.

Many of us have read the New Testament many times. I believe that in your reading you have picked up many teachings from the Bible. However, if you examine them closely, you will discover that most of them are concepts that already existed in your mind. We can almost say that you cannot get any concept out of your reading of the Bible unless that concept was already there in your mind.

In Paul's fourteen Epistles, how many times did he write that he bowed his head and prostrated himself before God?" There are only a few instances. However, he repeatedly said, "Christ in me" and "Christ in you." For example, he said, "It is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me"; "It pleased God¼to reveal His Son in me"; "My children, with whom I travail again in birth until Christ is formed in you"; "Christ in you, the hope of glory"; "That Christ may make His home in your hearts" (Gal. 2:20; 1:15-16; 4:19; Col. 1:27; Eph. 3:17).

i reiterate what i said much earlier in the thread that the book is not a reliable source of truth. i'd still prefer the old fashion way, meeting up with God for a chat, that's all that is needed to have me sold.

This post has been edited by hotjake: Mar 21 2012, 11:09 AM

When Jesus proclaim.

John 14:6
I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.

That is exactly the basis of all interpretation.

If there's any interpretation that differ from this, then it is no longer Christianity.

oh... i see they r doomed like me

No Jake you're not doomed.
You may say you disbelieve God but something inside of me tells me you really do only misunderstood.

u haf any strategy that can save me but i no need go church?

Okay apart of my misunderstanding/ wrong idea/interpretation of the original foreveralone Guy, clear my misunderstanding of the idea of God's justice in the Bible as it is very mind-boggling Justice is the quality of being fair, and a person who is just acts fairly and in accordance with what is right, do you not agree? however ideas about what is fair and right differ from time to time and from person to person. you guys believe strongly God is just, so by examining his actions we will be able to know God's concept of justice, correct?

God tells us that anybody who disobeys him will be punished "seven times over" (Lev 26:18), that is, one sin will be punished seven times. Seems fair? He also tells us that he will punish the innocent children, grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of those who..... ahem

I the Lord am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sins of the fathers to the third or fourth generation of those who hate me (Deat 5:9).
this is known as collective punishment; punishing a whole family or group for the crime committed by one of its members. collective punishment is condemned today as unfair and unjust but God apparently considers it quite just. God tells us that even minor offences should be punished by death. For example, those who work on Sunday should be stoned to death. Once a man was found collecting firewood on Sunday and God said to Moses and the people who caught the man:

"The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death as the Lord commanded Moses (Num 15:32-36).

God's idea of justice does not seem to embrace the idea that the punishment should fit the crime. we are told that all who do not love God will suffer eternal punishment in hell. There are many kind, honest and generous people who do not believe in God and they will all go to hell.


i have a lot of misunderstandings of the bible. God and christians

again no anger was involved in my reasoning/analysis

This post has been edited by hotjake: Mar 21 2012, 11:32 AM

how do u expect to be saved if u do not want to enter the house of God?

at it's core, all you need to do is believe, that's it. there is no such thing as you must go church every week, must give 10% as tithes, must do this must do that otherwise you lose your salvation.

Bro!! I already enter house of God since young till now. Still i dun feel like im saved.

No difference feeling if i enter house or not enter the house. He still doesnt use any divine method to show me he exist

that's not what they say at church and sunday skool. must gip tithes, pastor no money to eat how to deliver sermons?? and merely believe can go heaven liau? okay.jpg

Jake we need to understand one thing.

God is Holy. Our Sins separates our link with Him. That does not mean He doesn't want you.

He is always inviting you but you on your part must let go that things that hinder this.

Isaiah 59: 1-2



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 21 2012, 11:43 AM