QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 24 2012, 10:23 AM)
I won't comment on the health part cos that's got nothing to do with scriptures.
Why then does the word sodomy
not appear in the Bible if it is condemned/forbidden? There are plenty of verses that condemn
homosexuality. But none of these verses are translated using the word "sodomy."
The Bible condemns
homosexuality. It doesn't mention anything specific about the act of anal sex itself.
In my view this is similar to the story of
Onan. Did God punish the act of masturbation with death? Or did He punish Onan for intentionally avoid producing offspring for his brother as was the law at the time?
My view on this is that if you condemn anal sex as unnatural, then wouldn't oral sex also be unnatural? Since the penis is obviously not meant for the mouth. And the vagina is also obviously not meant for the tongue else it would, you know ...
taste good. Furthermore the fingers are not meant for the vagina either. So there can be no foreplay and straight to the act? Doesn't make sense.
i.e. Homosexuality. This verse says man with man = X. It doesn't say Man with Female in the ass = X.
Same as above.
Think about this, a man with a man ? which part are they talking about ? obviously the anus? that is homosexuality already, that is SODOMY.
Back to your argument above, you've already begin to question God's truth that sodomy is not this and that and it should be ALLOWED by your standard. Then my friend, you have been led astray.
Come back to the truth. God's truth is perfect in every sense, he has his reason that you should not conduct such act.
Whether or not you obey his Words or "to create a way that you think you are right and God is wrong".
and Please, TO ADD on, the story of Onan is not about masturbation.The Story About ONAN.
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The story of Judah and Tamar is an interesting one, to say the least. Judah and Tamar are both explicitly mentioned in Jesus' lineage (Matthew 1 - and Tamar is only one of four women mentioned, all of whom have sordid stories associated with them). In the end, Tamar is going to trick her father-in-law into getting her pregnant, and then avoids death by proving Judah is the father. But the question is about Onan, not Judah...
In the story, Tamar is first wed to Er, the eldest of Judah's sons. Er dies for some unmentioned reason, and Tamar is left without children. Children in that time were important both for the social support for parents in their old age, and for continuance of the family line. Being childless, the law calls for something called 'levirate marriage' - the next oldest brother is required to marry and give the widow the children. This is how Judah's second child, Onan, enters the story.
Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death also
As you can see, Onan was not masturbating. If anything, you could accuse Onan of coitus interruptus, but not masturbation.
What Onan was doing, however, was using Tamar for sex, but not giving her the child she deserved. One could call this theft - it isn't really the sex that is at issue at all. As the text clearly states, Onan did not want his deceased brother to have an heir. That would have negated his claim on the inheritance, and his new found status as eldest brother.
Interestingly, the story continues with this theme of theft - Judah refuses to allow his third son Shelah, to fufill this duty. (I mean, can you blame him? Two sons dead, and now looking at a third?) Instead of Shelah taking from Tamar, Judah is "stealing" Tamar's due. In the end, however, Tamar tricks Judah into securing her place in the line of Christ.
This post has been edited by fghvbn: Apr 24 2012, 10:32 AM