lol. If you think only those Churches are authentic and the rest are fake, I really dunno what to say.

Why is it you all are so focus on the book of Matthew but ignore the rest of the others in the scripture?

Hebrews 8:7–9, 13

For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8But God found fault with the people and saidb:

“The time is coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
9It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”c
13By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

See the word there, Find Fault and the word there obsolete?

The new Law that God talks about in writing in your Heart is the Law of Love.

Love God and Love Others. That is what Jesus was trying to tell.

Because in essence when you practise only these 2 laws, it fulfils all the 10 commandments Laws.

So in other words, you're not really breaking any of the 10 commandments but you fulfil them through only these 2.

When you obey these 2 Laws of Love, You won't go out there and pray to others gods or commit adultery or steal, <insert the rest>

The reason why God himself made the 10 commandments faulty and and obsolete is because He wants ALL his people to look away from Self Effort to God dependant which is Jesus.

Our focus now must be on Jesus.

The 10 commandments is basically SELF, nothing to do with what God does for you, His Grace.

I hope you have the capacity to understand this.

I'm not asking you to go against the 10 commandments.

See the point?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 01:10 PM

Because this Truth is not a new truth, it's old.
It's in the Bible.

So prove with Scripture, dun just simply talk.


ok fair enough.

But Bro dun simply condemn other people churches la.
you never even step in and you can talk like you know for sure.
Even I wouldn't dare or even bother to call whatever Churches is cult or wat
It's not even in my heart to even think about it.
because I may never know if God is doing something in that Church.
If God is doing something in that Church and you go and simply condemn, not control your mouth, indirectly you're may also condemn God without knowing.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 01:44 PM

Well D-Frog.

Prayer is basically talking to God. That's all.

It's not like those other religion where they have to chant certain mantra or stuff like that.

But if you want to know guideline, Jesus gave one in the Book of Matthew, Chapter 6



I highlighted bold part for a very important revelation.

When you pray to God, do not pray prayers like God doesn't know what's happening in your life.

I mean something like this.

"please god, I got this problem, please have mercy, please help..bla bla bla"

This type of prayer is not really biblical.

And try not to pray to impress others. That is kind of hypocrite prayers which God mention in ver 5.

I hope this can help you.

Thank You Heavenly Father, you are great and mighty God. (Give Praise)
You know everything and nothing is hidden (Give Praise), if you can give more praise, do so.
I thank you for your answer and deliverance from my < insert problem> (This is prayer of Faith)
I thank you for ministering to <insert whoever> for their Salvation (This is prayer of Faith)
Let your Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, not mine (Acknowledge God's will)
I thank you for your grace and providence today (Daily Bread)
Thank You for forgiving me through the Blood of Jesus that's eternal cleansing even as I forgive others (ver 12)
I pray for your Wisdom and Protection from the Evil one.
In Jesus Name, Amen.

There's really no standard style, it's up to you really.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 02:02 PM

after so many pages now only understand

Praise God.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 02:06 PM

wanna test your bible knowledge mah.

good you know this.

but the word there all Truth, is not really referring to the 10 commandments.

Here's an awesome revelation.

The Holy Spirit is referring to Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ He is your truth. Jesus Christ is also the Word of God.

What it means is that, when you come into a situation, and you need guidance, The Bible will be your guide. (God's word)

Not just the 10 commandments because there's so many verse,

For example like.

Romans 8:31
What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?



Not for us anymore to have right standing with God because Jesus is our right standing with God.

I wanna test you see if you understand this or not.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 02:21 PM

please don't start again.

no really, by the same token, if you insist the Book of Hebrew is only for the Jews then you must also deny whatever Jesus says because his first target audience is the same.

Matthew 15:24
He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

But it's not isn't it?

Unless you're suggesting to say Jesus is different, His words is for everyone whereas Paul's is only for the Jews.

Well in that case you contradict what you're standing on.

hmm I still think you don't get it.


Romans 4:14

For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void (ESV)

For if those who are of the Law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise is nullified; (NAS)

If God's promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless. (NLT)


What does this tell you?

If you say that you obey the 10 commandment because you love God and want to obey him?

But God never really say that you know?

If you really want to be scriptural, Love others. that's all. NOT love the 10 commandments.

1 John 4:20
If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen

That's mean in essence, once you love others, by the same token, you also Love God.

NOW THAT is the new emphasize in NT.

That's not what we're talking about it.

The contention is not what's in the 10 commandments.

I believe the biggest problem is for mostly in here is trying to understand what is the purpose of the 10 commandments.

One word. Love.

Sigh, I'm not relating those 2.

Was answering to 2 parts.

Sigh.

Not talking about Salvation.
Yes if you and I can agree that God doesn't shoot is own foot, then all Scripture is relevant.
It's for everyone. And remember Jesus did not only talk about Salvation When he first preached in the sermon on the mount, there's a mouthful of things there. If you insist certain passages or whatever in the book of Hebrew is only meant for the Jew then you must be consistent that Jesus's preaching is only meant for the Jews as well, otherwise you contradict yourself.


No.

Galatians 3:19

Go eat your durian lah.

Of course because I don't admit I'm old,
I consider myself Young and....... forever young in Jesus Name.

I know that but I don't get what's your point?

Well since you post this again.

Yes. and.......?

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Added on October 19, 2012, 3:27 pmOk, I'll come back later.

Keep this fellowship up.

And Olga, pls belanja us some durians.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 03:27 PM

Actually I asked you that question because, there is a reason for it.

Yes all Scripture is God's breath and is useful for teaching, etc, that I have no doubt, but the purpose of the 10 commandments is revealed in Galatians 3:19. NLT ver explains it Best IMO.

And I appreciate your intention but what makes you think I don't read the Tanakh and the Torah or the entire Bible as a whole?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 19 2012, 07:32 PM

Actually there's a double edge sword in that verse. I agree it applies for grace but it can also apply to money.

It ties to the verse on whatsoever you reap, you shall sow in Galatians 6:7 as well as the covenant God gives you in Malachi.

All these are connected.

Many take Galatians 6:7 as something negative but some forget, the flip side is also true. You sow something good, you'll get the same in return.