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post Nov 18 2012, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 18 2012, 06:43 PM)
Of course i pray..all day all night.

Lack of self confidence and self esteem???? More like the opposite.

I went for a youth camp and ask for the hp no of this girl i met at the youth camp. I text her and ask her out...but it took her two days to reply...i text another two or three times...she never replied.

Then I even ask this other christian girl out on a date. At first she went out. THen second time, I ask her for movie..she also go out. Third time I ask her out again she go out. Fourth time, I ask her out...this time she say don't want. THen she reply me in email..she thought that we not compatible, and she say we both should remain as friends. Then i reply ok loh and thanked her for giving me the opportunity to go out with her. I wasn't hurt at all, to tell you the truth.

But next friday, I attend cell, so her brother in law, got black black face at me. When I go to house for meeting, he open the door at me and then slam the door at my face..crazy man.

Then in the meeting all the members show black black face like so angry. I just act normal only.

What so angry, I also dunno, its two consenting adults agree to go out on a date wat....its not a sin right?

Then she never go for the cg anymore. I decided to change cg because I didn't want her to backslide. Two weeks after that, I ask some friends, it turns out she return back to the cell.
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thx for the share alvin, that means my wild guess was not right doh.gif
then let me pray for u this time, I will pray to lord to give u more guidance. Be patient thumbup.gif

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 18 2012, 06:46 PM)
Busy now training in Healing ministries aka tangkap hantu.
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post Nov 19 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 19 2012, 03:20 PM)
It's alright to pray such prayer, nothing wrong. And it's alright to go out to meet people, that should be the way after prayer.

But my point is, if you still couldn't meet somebody, don't despair and focus so much on it until it affects your emotions to the point of pain.

That is like saying, you couldn't bring yourself to trust God. It's evident when you say you want to find a none Christian life partner because of no choice.

There's always joy in hope, brother.

I encourage you to come to a point of trusting God for a partner that even if you failed to meet, you're still intact and would prefer God bringing the right one to you.

One more thing. I leave this to you.  Do not for one moment think by finding a life partner, it solves all your loneliness problem. It may add more problems. lol. laugh.gif  you know why?

Having a life partner is really a journey to adapt to each other's whims n fancy. It may not be easy because some people refuse to change. Might be easy to say I'm willing to change for her until you get older and realize you yourself change in as your progress in age.

And to adapt with the same partner for life is really no easy task. I will say this and I believe it is right to say this.

There's no such thing as a perfect life partner. But When God gives you, it will be the right one where there's room to grow and adapt in both of your life through hurts and disappointment by his grace.
About Altar call, it really depends on the prompting of God's spirit in you.

If you get convicted for an altar call, go for it.
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Be frank, I really going thru these process before. I despair so much until I could not think of anything and I started to blame "the world", and slowly I begin to realise that things will get better after I patiently moving to the right path & pray. In these process its proven that I make myself stronger not because of what I gain, its having faith from lord that makes me calm. Its hard for me to describe these feelings.. its just calm and joy that appear from inside.
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It's alright to pray such prayer, nothing wrong. And it's alright to go out to meet people, that should be the way after prayer.

But my point is, if you still couldn't meet somebody, don't despair and focus so much on it until it affects your emotions to the point of pain.

That is like saying, you couldn't bring yourself to trust God. It's evident when you say you want to find a none Christian life partner because of no choice.

There's always joy in hope, brother.


And I totally agreed this quote below also. Life partner won't solve all our loneliness problem, I have this feeling of loneliness even I have my life partner or soul mates. Lucky me, this feelings does not haunt me any more after I truly surrendering myself to lord and give my trust for all.
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Do not for one moment think by finding a life partner, it solves all your loneliness problem.


Thank you UW for putting all my feelings that I going thru before into words so I can learn how to put my thought into words in future, I'm really bad at expressing my thought and feelings into words. nod.gif

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post Nov 20 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 20 2012, 09:00 AM)
Bro/fren,

I know one guy who is very pious. Yes he did the same as you say. Now he is 45 years old and still single !

You get the whole meaning wrong. You still have to go and find. Not say "Duh, I submit to god's will but I am going to continue to sit down here and do nothign about it". If you are a gold prospector, you don't go prospecting gold in your toilet. If you are an insurance salesman, you don't go and sell to people who already have policies, you will go and target the graduates who just came out to work.

If you have a gun, you have to aim it so the bullet reach the destination, not shoot up the sky.

I am not empty ok. I am just figuring out how to do this.
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good day alvin,

uw did not say that u can sit down n let god spoon feed u, u r right that if u sit down n wait for god to give u a wife is wrong.

he means to tell u that you r empty in your soul, you are not empty from your daily knowledge. you are still not connected with god, u need to understand whay uw told u was from bible and it will helps u to create a connection with god. then god will leads u the way.

from all u had mentioned, i can see that u r counting
on your own knowledge to deal with this matter. In other word to say, you are walking alone without letting god to assist u.

my friend, having own knowledge is very limited, u need to understand and do what the bible told, u can say what i told was wrong. the way u understand bible nor gods word are with your own point of view.. not the real understanding of bible.

i m not trying to proof myself right, i just wants to help u. i hope u can be patient, i had meet ppl that reading the bible for 10 years or 20 years, they may not understand bible if they not willing have the gift "faith" thats cames from god.

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post Nov 20 2012, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Nov 20 2012, 09:27 AM)
LOL. You speak of battles between your desires, and enlightenment. It's hard to be human, and serve God at the same time, ain't it?

Here's a short answer: Seek wisdom.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 20 2012, 09:39 AM)
One Question, asked twice.

Do you think God is not able to bring the right life partner to meet you?

Do you think He lacks this power?
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good morning deadlocks amd unknown warriors! good to see u guys, i been following this thread sometimes.. have been read those replies both of u.. i can see u both had received the gift of wisdom. i m very happy that god had lead me into this thread n i really had learn a little bit from u both. hehe.. sorry that i only manage to capture a bit due to my limited storage, i m upgrading my own storage by learning more from time to time. biggrin.gif oh no! its 10am.. i go to work 1st.. cya guys!
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post Nov 20 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 20 2012, 10:27 AM)
If I am empty, I would have given up going to church or being a christian altogether.

Yes I know, his grace is sufficient for me. But it doesn't mean that I am superhuman and I deny the challenges I face.  I really dislike christians that go around saying that everything in their life is ok not even wanting to bear any weaknesses at all, for fear of saying something would mean that they are empty. Fact is we are all sinners, we face a lot of challenges in life, its not wrong to come out in open and say yeah, i am facing this and I wanna do something right about this.

But face with immense challenges of which the church structure itself is not helping christians to find mates, force me to find alternatives.

So I am not blaming god, I am blaming the church bureaucracy.
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brother alvin, before I start my quoting & conversation here.. we're all in here chatting as a family, no hard feeling ok? if any words I quoted wrongly, please correct me. nod.gif

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If I am empty, I would have given up going to church or being a christian altogether.

I came to church empty as a sinner, imagine.. my life is very good, rich with all the material needs and I can full fill my own desire with $. I can buy all materialistic desire needs with $. Do u think I will go church and seek god? I don't think so. Meanings, giving up to go church or seek for god kingdoms does not relates to the word "empty" as we said...

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Yes I know, his grace is sufficient for me. But it doesn't mean that I am superhuman and I deny the challenges I face.  I really dislike christians that go around saying that everything in their life is ok not even wanting to bear any weaknesses at all, for fear of saying something would mean that they are empty. Fact is we are all sinners, we face a lot of challenges in life, its not wrong to come out in open and say yeah, i am facing this and I wanna do something right about this.
With his grace, we are not superhuman. We walk with him together, we face the challenge together as a team. Its just too dark to walk alone out there. U said that u dislike what other christian told u that "everything in their life is ok not even wanting to bear any weaknesses at all, for fear of saying something would mean that they are empty.", but bear in mind.. u r walking the challenge with god and carrying other ppl cross. And yes, is not wrong to say out that u r facing this and wana do it right, in fact u had done the right things nod.gif

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But face with immense challenges of which the church structure itself is not helping christians to find mates, force me to find alternatives.

So I am not blaming god, I am blaming the church bureaucracy.

Please look properly on this quote here u had write, "U r counting on church mates to help u, when they failed to help u with ur desire needs.. u had blame them". what i trying to tell was here, when anything u failed to archive after u "ask/pray" to god, u don't give up and don't blame other.. having faith to it and continue to make your search and face the challenge together with god. Hold god tight and don't let go.

And again, my english is not good and I hope u don't mind I sharing this to u also. I don't know why I feel so much on u, I had the same feeling that u having last time.. I can't say its the same feeling I had been thru it, but when I read all ur conversation... I feels it. Thats why with my broken english I die die say share this out doh.gif

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 20 2012, 10:43 AM)
Everybody have different needs Skydrake,

For Alvin, It's a life partner, For some to have children, others Finance, For some Healing from body sickness, etc.

All these fall under this verse of God's promise

Matthew 6:25
"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life........

Somehow the devil knows the things that worry us through our actions and words spoken in confession and will not hesitate to use it against us to disrupt your peace of mind.

The Holy Spirit already said this in

John 14:27
Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

and in

Matthew 6:8
for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

I believe, the reasons why our prayers can be hindered:

1. We don't trust God enough. Lack of Faith.
2. We worry.
3. We let our hearts be troubled and fearful.

These symptoms, I believe will allow the devil to operate anxiety and slow down or hinder the answers.

It's not that the Devil has powers against God. No for sure not, but here's the secret as to why and how.

The devil know he can't touch God. But he can affect the believer to doubt God and hence that's why, things doesn't flow.

The problem is our worrying.

For Alvin, he worries he'll grow old without a partner and perhaps due to age is catching up.

That kind of fear can grip a believer's life to the point of doing things outside the will of God, like looking for unbelievers as life partners.

I hope this sharing helps you in your journey with God.
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post Nov 20 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 20 2012, 10:22 AM)
I am just saying not comparing my bro.
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morning brother olga tongue.gif
u just defended your arrogant attitude by comparing your faith and denied the words u put out was not true shocking.gif

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post Nov 20 2012, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 20 2012, 12:04 PM)
Arrogant and confident are 2 different thing.
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brother olga, u might not agreed with this.

confidence is from inside, other can see this from your face and the act u have done.
arrogant is from outside, its an attitude that act out purposely or verbally.

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I got a friend which he is very good cell leader but some how his faith is not really strong as i am.

these words does not comes out verbally if a person confidence level high.

brother olga, I does not means to offence u. If I really did, I'm sorry notworthy.gif
If what I said above was wrong, I will admit and I will correct it.

add-on: dear all brothers fellowers in here, I really happy that we all able to chat here. I'm truly appreciated all the sharing in here also. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Nov 20 2012, 12:22 PM)
as your sharing includes your signature which makes most of us hungry now..
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u reminds me, i m hungry too

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 20 2012, 12:23 PM)
Aiyo it's okay lah guise.

We all learn and strive to improve from our mistakes.
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thats why i wants to point it out.. hope next time when my turn to make mistake, i wants to all to point my mistakes too nod.gif
without mistakes I makes, I will never grow up.. I don't wants to be babies cry.gif

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 20 2012, 12:27 PM)
Anyway we are just human trying to be like Jesus.
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post Nov 21 2012, 12:40 AM

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Anyone here attending Enoch Lam preaching on 12/12/12 at PRGM? I forgot what is the the exact time and venue inside PGRM.. if not mistaken it was 8pm.

I had attending his Enoch Lam preaching a lot of time in this year from "Yeah Show, How Taoist vs Christian describe ghost? and some preaching, because his HongKong Cantonese language makes me easier to understand and it makes great helps to me.

If anyone of u attending this 12/12/12 at PGRM?, I will make this opportunity to see you guys in person smile.gif a step closer as a friends. Let me know...

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QUOTE(FantaPeach @ Nov 21 2012, 10:55 AM)
Hi guys,

I am new here. Mind to update me on the activities here?  smile.gif
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post Nov 21 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 21 2012, 12:13 PM)
Hello guys need help.

What is the main different between Christian and catholic?

Just for my knowledge. Pastor ask this question and i don't know how to answer also.
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If I remember it right, unknown warrior did tell us before in those previous pages. To read again from those previous pages is tough for my reading speeds rclxub.gif
Let's summon unknown warrior! thumbup.gif

I got this from google, to view more go to http://www.diffen.com/difference/Catholicism_vs_Christianity
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Catholicism is a denomination, hence a subset, of Christianity. All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. A Christian refers to a follower of Jesus Christ who may be a Catholic, Protestant, Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical, Anglican or Orthodox, or follower of another branch of the religion.

A Catholic refers to a Christian who follows the Catholic religion as transmitted through the succession of Popes of Rome and the Vatican Empire across history. The Pope is the leader of the Catholic church. The Catholic Church is the largest of the Christian Churches - about 60% of Christians are Catholic.


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post Nov 21 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 21 2012, 12:51 PM)
This is basic. I want to know in term of Bible and believe.
Summon Unknown warrior.
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true true, at the same time.. I can learn from it also.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
summon unknown warrior! haha
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post Nov 21 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 21 2012, 01:27 PM)
Look, I never say that I gave up. I am not blaming god but all I can say is that there are some politics at church that are enormously ridiculous. I won't disclose to you the details but me and some friends tried to implement some basic stuff while serving but was refused due to competing politics from another more dominant group. So whats not to blame on human flaw?

This is why I don't count church mates to help me anymore....I am better off going out with non-christians or christians who backslided. Fail? Hey, don't draw conclusions. I have prayed. And I never say I will make big concessions until when i marry the non-christian, i let her live an unbeliever's life. I want to meet somebody who responds to god's call. I don't expect her to immediately become a christian, attend cg and start serving and immediate transformation.

That fella say I empty...ah...he wait lah. When he face his next big trial...see whether he (unknown warrior) thinks he will become "empty" like me. Bottom line is, we are human beings, god will not make us go through a trial we can't handle..but doesn't mean I cannot brainstorm and express myself.
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Hi brother alvin,

Good afternoon and good day to u smile.gif
Let's chat a bit out topic here. Be frank, its really good that u can express out.. I do believe we all in here live with the purpose. I seriously feel u, thru the way u expressing yourself.. let's stand firm on our believe and we all walk thru all this with god as a team. Amen~ nod.gif
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 22 2012, 10:32 AM)
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How to increase Faith.
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Well here is your answer. Start commanding!

Well you may say, but I have no Faith!

Sister, you just need a mustard seed Faith. It's very Small but it's enough for God to work powerfully in your commands!

Command it and believe it and you shall have it in Jesus Name.

Hope this helps you.

God Bless.
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This is just what I need to know, my daily work out is just seeking answer to it.. before this I had read thru bible and does not realise nor understand how does this work. Now its my time to commanding it. I'm ready to to go! thumbup.gif
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post Nov 22 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 21 2012, 05:27 PM)
I like this better


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very nice, unknown warrior.. do u think u can let me have a song list? most of the songs u posted here was very nice, i really likes to have more on ur list! i know my demand was a bit over brows.gif hope u don't mind ..ehehe

1 more question here, is it illegal for me to download those songs? coz i have laggy connection to stream direct from youtube so I directly download the youtube mp3 files, which is much much faster then I stream direct thumbup.gif

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post Nov 23 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 23 2012, 10:04 AM)
Hi Brother, Morning.

Too many songs la bro.

Wat I'll do is, from time to time I'll post in our Christian thread, you just dl from youtube.

Don't worry I will sure share songs from time to time in here because they can help us to draw near or worship God.

kay?
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good morning brother,

no worry, I will still accept it in any form of sharing from u.. hope u will share more! more! hahahahha thumbup.gif
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post Nov 23 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 23 2012, 10:52 AM)
This song is old but when really bored n if didn't listen long time, reaLLY  rclxm9.gif
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tOBYmAC is a Christian artist.

Last time he's from Christian hip hop group call DC Talk.
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downloading..

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 23 2012, 10:59 AM)
Here's another one from Toby Mac
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downloading.. btw its this illegal? LOL! rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:10 AM)
Ahem what do you mean by disrespectful and scornful? I disagree.

Pastors are human beings. Yes submission to authority. But some of them tend to be bullies. I know of one youth pastor, he outrightly told me off that I am an outsider and not belong to his congregation just because I didn't attend his youth service when I was 10 years old.

I once brought up the issue about the lack of fellowship and the clickishness of a youth church. But the pastor chastised me and told me to persevere rather than bringing up to the youth leadership and doing somehting about it.

I have even witnessed one occassion that a pastor influence a girl to break up with her boyfriend. Four years later he married her. Wow, speak of conflict of interest.

And what about cases in singapore? I don't want to mention names due to legal ramifications. But we have heard of one ongoing in singapore about funds use by pastor's spouse for singing career. Another church, divided because too much funds allocated for a building. I know of an insider in that church told me about how bias the funds were approved, every one of the officials chosen to approve it are the pastor's close confidants.

We need to discern ! Not blind submission.
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Good day brother alvin,

How is your day? tongue.gif
About your quotes above here, I'm curious 'bout the answer u will give to "unknown warrior " question "have u forgiven them"? Add on with another question from me, "have u doubt 'bout god judgement towards them?"..

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:16 PM)
Shucks, what is there to forgive?

1)The church that overbudgeted their building fund and cause the church to be short of fund is not my church.
2)The youth pastor who induced the girl to break up the bf and married her, has nothing to do with me
3)The youth pastor who told me off that I am an outsider, I just left and did better at another church, I am glad he told me that or else I won't know the true pic there. So what is there to forgive? In fact, he blessed me more when I found somewhere better.
4)The singapore church is not my church, so why i must be mad at them?

Sigh....my topic is not about god judgment about them. Everybody, even christians after we die, we will face judgement at the judgement seat of christ.

My topic here is...even church leaders are imperfect, we need to discern and by discerning means we need to ask god for direction and strengthen our knowledge in the word. Because unknown warrior say that I was rude to them. I never say anything rude to them. Like i say, the youth pastor who call me an outsider, I dunno wat happen to him, but I just left the church and am glad I found somewehre better. Anyhow, there was once, I ask him if i could use the church toilet during a while waiting for transport. He say ok, and then he let me into the office. Then as I was coming out, he locked me in the church office ! I peaked through the window and saw he and his wife few feet away. I tried to shout to the top of my voice to ask him to help open the door. But he ignored me. Then one member saw that, and tell him that i was calling him but his back is turn against me and didnt bother to respond.

If what i can say is, the pastor is wierd. He must really dislike me...maybe i yong sui or something. But there's nothing to forgive because i moved on. I am just telling u tht people r not perfect in this world.
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ops, my fault mis-leading my question. my question should be this way on "Have you doubt god purpose on them?. Real sorry for this, please forgive me. You are right that your topic was not about god judgement about them. Thank you for correcting btw.. laugh.gif

Hmmm... let see what "unknown warrior" will reply u..

Btw brother alvin, u still did not answer my 1st question "How is your day?" hehe thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 24 2012, 12:19 PM)
honestly I have no proper answer for this.

perhaps someone else can help.
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 25 2012, 04:45 PM)
Seek my forgiveness? I have no problem with them. But they seem to have some problems with me.

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With this quote above, I really hope that u may take unknown warrior advise as below.

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 25 2012, 10:21 PM)
Dear Alvin.

If you want my opinion and advise.

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Let's put the "subject" away together and let it all go in Jesus Name. And I hope brother alvin can stay in this thread longer too.. so we all together can learn more in coming days. nod.gif

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post Nov 27 2012, 10:57 PM

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Finally I'm back home.. so tired preparing my weddings needs. Lucky this only did for once and for all.

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