It's alright to pray such prayer, nothing wrong. And it's alright to go out to meet people, that should be the way after prayer.

But my point is, if you still couldn't meet somebody, don't despair and focus so much on it until it affects your emotions to the point of pain.

That is like saying, you couldn't bring yourself to trust God. It's evident when you say you want to find a none Christian life partner because of no choice.

There's always joy in hope, brother.

I encourage you to come to a point of trusting God for a partner that even if you failed to meet, you're still intact and would prefer God bringing the right one to you.

One more thing. I leave this to you. Do not for one moment think by finding a life partner, it solves all your loneliness problem. It may add more problems. lol. you know why?

Having a life partner is really a journey to adapt to each other's whims n fancy. It may not be easy because some people refuse to change. Might be easy to say I'm willing to change for her until you get older and realize you yourself change in as your progress in age.

And to adapt with the same partner for life is really no easy task. I will say this and I believe it is right to say this.

There's no such thing as a perfect life partner. But When God gives you, it will be the right one where there's room to grow and adapt in both of your life through hurts and disappointment by his grace.


About Altar call, it really depends on the prompting of God's spirit in you.

If you get convicted for an altar call, go for it.

Yes, unfortunately I do not have the time to browse many pages for now (give me a few weekends). I really like your sharing on Faith.
However, for Christians, Faith must go hand-in-hand with works - I shall come back with this during the weekend okay? thank you!

Peace be with you all. Have a blessed weekend ahead.

Be frank, I really going thru these process before. I despair so much until I could not think of anything and I started to blame "the world", and slowly I begin to realise that things will get better after I patiently moving to the right path & pray. In these process its proven that I make myself stronger not because of what I gain, its having faith from lord that makes me calm. Its hard for me to describe these feelings.. its just calm and joy that appear from inside.


And I totally agreed this quote below also. Life partner won't solve all our loneliness problem, I have this feeling of loneliness even I have my life partner or soul mates. Lucky me, this feelings does not haunt me any more after I truly surrendering myself to lord and give my trust for all.


Thank you UW for putting all my feelings that I going thru before into words so I can learn how to put my thought into words in future, I'm really bad at expressing my thought and feelings into words.

This post has been edited by skydrake: Nov 19 2012, 04:38 PM

Find God as your life partner.

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Added on November 19, 2012, 5:34 pmwhat ever church you are. Unity in Christ does not needs uniformity.

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Nov 19 2012, 05:34 PM

... quite active today

The Catholics are still preserving traditions and rituals as in the days of old Testament. That's why you practise sacraments and rituals. But you'll hardly hear this passage of the scripture below, preach in the RCC.

Hebrews 8:6-7
But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises. For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

Here the Holy Spirit on purpose mention the Covenant of the OT is faulty and has something wrong . You can see the verse above and below.

Hebrews 8:8
But God found fault with the people and said: "The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and ageing will soon disappear

It is link to the verse below where it talks about priest of old representing the people to God. God has made that covenant obsolete.

Hebrews 10:11 says.
Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.

The reason priest need to stand is because they can never rest, for their work is not perfect is will never appease God perfectly. Jesus on the hand as our High Priest sat down at the right hand of God because his sacrifice is perfect and acceptable to God. He does not need to offer to God over and over again just like the priests of old. He sat down indicating his work is a complete finished atonement.

Therefore based on this scripture, Jesus is our High Priest today interceding on our behalf to the Father. Not human priest. Not saints, neither Mary.

Read here

Hebrews 7:26-28

26 For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

The passage here gives the idea that it is fitting that only Jesus becomes our High Priest. The Holy Spirit purposely mention under the Law of the Old Covenant, the 10 commandments and law of Leviticus, Man who becomes Priest to represent us to God, they are called weak. The word weak means not as divine as Jesus.

So to say The saints are full of grace, divine or highly favoured and hence you still need them to practice the traditions of old, you're in essence not putting yourself under the New Covenant but of the Old which is obsolete.

Not supported in scripture, brother. This is man's reasoning. The Catholics mainly rely on this logic, If my prayer are not answered, I need to pray to the saint as backup or to speed it up. Bro I can fully understand the need for answer to prayer but it must be based on scriptures. This idea of praying to the saints actually denotes that Jesus is NOT the only mediator which is already contradiction. It's very hard to justify 1 Timothy 2:5. You can give 100 solid reasons but it still contradicts the meaning of one mediator. One mediator is one mediator.

Besides, it can sideline to a dangerous heresy. In the sense you put your Faith more on the saint rather on God or Jesus.
The Bible says very clearly

Jeremiah 17:5
This is what the LORD says: "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD.

You cannot deny there's this tendency to revered Apostles and Mary on the same level as Jesus by practising this. Now I didn't use the word worship but you can see how it's very possible to end up as such. That could lead to idolatry.

Well you said this.

"But asking for intercession (1 Timothy 2:1) from live, holy people is very biblical, due to the power they have (James 5:16, 2 Peter 1:4)."

Yes we are all Forgiven in Christ, justified and righteous by Faith. Not of your works. I can point this on tons of scripture verses that is in line with this.

Therefore your prayer can be akin to prayer of Man righteous as in James 5:16 when you based your righteousness by Faith in the finish work of Christ.

You are THAT righteous man and in turn your prayer is powerful and effective.

The only problem is that, do you have Faith to believe that?

If you cannot believe that and need to rely on your obedience or good works to be deemed as a righteous Man, then the foundation of your doctrine is already lost. Your righteousness falls on your works which is of the flesh or self effort. I call that self glorification towards God which is not biblical because the rest of this world's religion work in the same manner.

And You cannot use the scripture in James where it says Faith without works is dead, because that scripture is use to justify for doing the work of God in the context of Love which of course need action and not just mere empty talks. That's why it says, Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. Faith and action works hand in hand. But the key point in all scripture of the New Covenant is that only our Faith is credited as righteousness.


Prophetjul? Don't mind him, He's like the jihadist of our Christian Faith.

His ministry is very much towards a Ministry of Sin condemnation and Brimstone and Fire.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 19 2012, 10:48 PM

God Bless and shalom to you too.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 19 2012, 10:48 PM

John 15:5
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.

The Calm and joy in you is the Manifestation of the Holy Spirit in you.

It's very true, even Married couples at time can feel loneliness especially when one doesn't understand each other in fights and arguments.

And Even When you're married for many years, you can also feel like unfulfilled in emptiness because only God can fill that vacuum in our Heart.

To balance up, Great Marriages happen when you put Christ as the Centre.

The Bible says In Christ, All things are held together! Christ is our glue.

When you look towards Jesus, automatically, the strength of God's Love is imparted into us to love each other even more.

The Key secret in marriage is to please Our Chief Shepard. And through Him, The strength of a family is held together.

Colossians 1:17
He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 19 2012, 11:24 PM

Agreed.

Well, you're missing in action too.

Bro/fren,

I know one guy who is very pious. Yes he did the same as you say. Now he is 45 years old and still single !

You get the whole meaning wrong. You still have to go and find. Not say "Duh, I submit to god's will but I am going to continue to sit down here and do nothign about it". If you are a gold prospector, you don't go prospecting gold in your toilet. If you are an insurance salesman, you don't go and sell to people who already have policies, you will go and target the graduates who just came out to work.

If you have a gun, you have to aim it so the bullet reach the destination, not shoot up the sky.

I am not empty ok. I am just figuring out how to do this.

LOL. You speak of battles between your desires, and enlightenment. It's hard to be human, and serve God at the same time, ain't it?

Here's a short answer: Seek wisdom.

One Question, asked twice.

Do you think God is not able to bring the right life partner to meet you?

Do you think He lacks this power?

honestly, I'm kinda impressed.

good day alvin,

uw did not say that u can sit down n let god spoon feed u, u r right that if u sit down n wait for god to give u a wife is wrong.

he means to tell u that you r empty in your soul, you are not empty from your daily knowledge. you are still not connected with god, u need to understand whay uw told u was from bible and it will helps u to create a connection with god. then god will leads u the way.

from all u had mentioned, i can see that u r counting
on your own knowledge to deal with this matter. In other word to say, you are walking alone without letting god to assist u.

my friend, having own knowledge is very limited, u need to understand and do what the bible told, u can say what i told was wrong. the way u understand bible nor gods word are with your own point of view.. not the real understanding of bible.

i m not trying to proof myself right, i just wants to help u. i hope u can be patient, i had meet ppl that reading the bible for 10 years or 20 years, they may not understand bible if they not willing have the gift "faith" thats cames from god.

This post has been edited by skydrake: Nov 20 2012, 09:50 AM

good morning deadlocks amd unknown warriors! good to see u guys, i been following this thread sometimes.. have been read those replies both of u.. i can see u both had received the gift of wisdom. i m very happy that god had lead me into this thread n i really had learn a little bit from u both. hehe.. sorry that i only manage to capture a bit due to my limited storage, i m upgrading my own storage by learning more from time to time. oh no! its 10am.. i go to work 1st.. cya guys!

Whoa...its dangerous to compare your faith to his.

I recall there is a proverb - about a brother who have a giant pebble in his eye, ask his brother whether if he can remove a small speck from his eye.

We are all sinners in the eyes of god. Don't be too sure that you are better than the other brother/sister in christ.

Only Jesus who sits on the righthand of god's judgment seat, will judge all of us in the end of days.

I am just saying not comparing my bro.

If I am empty, I would have given up going to church or being a christian altogether.

Yes I know, his grace is sufficient for me. But it doesn't mean that I am superhuman and I deny the challenges I face. I really dislike christians that go around saying that everything in their life is ok not even wanting to bear any weaknesses at all, for fear of saying something would mean that they are empty. Fact is we are all sinners, we face a lot of challenges in life, its not wrong to come out in open and say yeah, i am facing this and I wanna do something right about this.

But face with immense challenges of which the church structure itself is not helping christians to find mates, force me to find alternatives.

So I am not blaming god, I am blaming the church bureaucracy.

Everybody have different needs Skydrake,

For Alvin, It's a life partner, For some to have children, others Finance, For some Healing from body sickness, etc.

All these fall under this verse of God's promise

Matthew 6:25
"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life........

Somehow the devil knows the things that worry us through our actions and words spoken in confession and will not hesitate to use it against us to disrupt your peace of mind.

The Holy Spirit already said this in

John 14:27
Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

and in

Matthew 6:8
for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

I believe, the reasons why our prayers can be hindered:

1. We don't trust God enough. Lack of Faith.
2. We worry.
3. We let our hearts be troubled and fearful.

These symptoms, I believe will allow the devil to operate anxiety and slow down or hinder the answers.

It's not that the Devil has powers against God. No for sure not, but here's the secret as to why and how.

The devil know he can't touch God. But he can affect the believer to doubt God and hence that's why, things doesn't flow.

The problem is our worrying.

For Alvin, he worries he'll grow old without a partner and perhaps due to age is catching up.

That kind of fear can grip a believer's life to the point of doing things outside the will of God, like looking for unbelievers as life partners.

I hope this sharing helps you in your journey with God.