your curiosity will makes u gain more knowledge, just like what I usually likes to do.. ask as much as I can
your friend have his own choice, pray hard to god and ask lord for guidance. We can do our best and let god do the rest.

ic, alvin.. have u try to pray and ask for god guidance? if i guess it right, u did not pray to god for guidance. *no offence*
from my point of view, u are lack of self confidence n self esteem, my wild guessing might be wrong.. if is right, u can try work it out.

This post has been edited by skydrake: Nov 18 2012, 06:35 PM

Seek the Kingdom of God first. Anyway do come for our young adult service 5pm Glad tidings Petaling Jaya. There are plenty of single and available there but first seek his Kingdom.

hi olga, long time no see how r u?

Aiyah, all the young adult service are the same lah.

I have been active in my young adult service for 3 years...so far no success.

All the girls there only wanna search for the super godly holy guy.

Of course i pray..all day all night.

Lack of self confidence and self esteem???? More like the opposite.

I went for a youth camp and ask for the hp no of this girl i met at the youth camp. I text her and ask her out...but it took her two days to reply...i text another two or three times...she never replied.

Then I even ask this other christian girl out on a date. At first she went out. THen second time, I ask her for movie..she also go out. Third time I ask her out again she go out. Fourth time, I ask her out...this time she say don't want. THen she reply me in email..she thought that we not compatible, and she say we both should remain as friends. Then i reply ok loh and thanked her for giving me the opportunity to go out with her. I wasn't hurt at all, to tell you the truth.

But next friday, I attend cell, so her brother in law, got black black face at me. When I go to house for meeting, he open the door at me and then slam the door at my face..crazy man.

Then in the meeting all the members show black black face like so angry. I just act normal only.

What so angry, I also dunno, its two consenting adults agree to go out on a date wat....its not a sin right?

Then she never go for the cg anymore. I decided to change cg because I didn't want her to backslide. Two weeks after that, I ask some friends, it turns out she return back to the cell.

Busy now training in Healing ministries aka tangkap hantu.

lol you go to church and cell more to look for girl rather then God. How God will help you lah. Seek first his kingdom.

thx for the share alvin, that means my wild guess was not right
then let me pray for u this time, I will pray to lord to give u more guidance. Be patient

ic...

Did you do something like touch touch (like touch her waist/ shoulder; she's not even your girlfriend yet) or say some dirty jokes?
Or look at other girls like you're not even dating her?
If you do then you should know why are they so angry.
If not then baru weird.

how old are you Alvin, if you don't mind?

You got a conference for Youth talking about refuse to compromise with the world and re-fuse with God right?


My church advertised and link it to your church.

It's no secret really.

We all need God in our lives.

Hence the start of a life's journey of a relationship to find out about God.

And He came to reveal himself through Jesus Christ with multiple-fold purposes.

The Biggest one is to remove the Wall of dividing hostility between ourselves and God which is sin.

His message was simple, repent and believe in Him.

That kind of Faith, God credit it to you as righteousness.

waa are u a priest unknown warrior???

Better than that, we are all King Priest in Christ.

You will need God's spirit to be in you to understand that.

Ermmm, this knowledge is a bit advance for now .

But will explain to you as grasp the foundation first.

But No, not as in those type of priest you see in tv.

bt if i last recall, spreading cristian is prohibited in malaysia ritee??

so how to learn if like this?

Spreading Christianity to Non-Moslems is not prohibited by Malaysian law.

But there are Moslems who initiated by asking questions from us and anyone who insist for answers we will answer to the best we can.

And of course there are underground Moslems who rather believe in our Faith.

Hi Alvin, i have been following your sharing with some interest. Here is my own opinion and advice, based on Christian views.
Before we get to the problem:
God is Love. The Bible starts with marriage/union - Adam and Eve on Genesis and ends with marriage - Us to God and His angels, saints in heaven. We all seek this love, either by marriage to God (celibacy) or marriage with spouse (Union of two, become one flesh under God's blessings)

Love is Free, Faithful, Total and Fruitful. <--- Core of Love

Now to your situation: (Numerically to bolded part of your situation)
1) - When you meet/date a non-believer, you have to be patient. If you think her personality, attitude suits you and both of you are talking on the same wavelength, why not give the relationship some time? Afterall everything starts with a spark, and then to friends, and slowly .. For God's love for us is the same. It is unceasing, it is always free, faithful and total. It takes time for non-believers to realise this. To feel this love. The same as when we want to preach God's love, not by the gospel, but by our actions of faith, hope and love. God gives us reason, she can sees this herself, if one day she decides not to be with you, its her free will. You need not be sad for you love her as she is, be it friend or as a lover. It is beautiful for what you have done. If it is not yours, it means God has placed someone better, the best for you.
Of course, you also have a choice. Some christians prefer only christians. Some can accept non-believer (like me for example), with my actions, prayer, with time (even years) I am confident my spouse will feel this love, which is God.

2) - True, to marry and adhere to a certain unhappy marriage means it will be unfruitful. This is not love. It is destructive even at times, like you have said, God wants us not to mingle with those who will weaken our faith, or to throw pearls to the dogs and pigs. I am not sure how old are you - mind telling?, but not all people are called to the ministry of marriage. Some are called to be servant of God. Again, come to love - which is free,faithful,total and fruitful. God does not force us. If we feel that we have another vocation (maybe family wish, maybe our own choice), God always make something fruitful out of our choices. - We do our best, God will plan the rest. He always has plan A - Z for us. It is not always one. Therefore, pray and have faith. God is not within our timeline, sometimes it takes 1 week, at times 1 month, 1 year, even 10 years. Maybe He has another plan? His answer is Yes/No/Not yet. I am not sure which denomination are you from, but Catholics, Anglicans, certain protestants invoke the intercession of Saints (esp patron saint of love and marriage), or Mother Mary to God, and more often than not, is powerful.

3) - The Church, is the House of God. The world is a dusty, tiring place that often beats us down. The Church building is a haven, a quiet refuge, a place to encounter God. Here we drink deeply of the life-giving waters of word and sacrament that revive our drooping spirits (Psalm 23). The grace that flows from the altar bears us back into the world, changed, and able to change others, bringing healing and bearing fruit. The world tells us that we are consumers, employees and voters, and flashes a constant stream of icons at us every day to remind us of this. The Church building is an icon that reminds us of our deepest identity. As we gather for Sunday worship, we who were scattered by diverse loyalties, professions, and life-styles, are now united as the Body of Christ and dwelling place of the Spirit.
Therefore, the Church is not a place to seek love outside God. But the answer you seek is within The Church.
(Mat 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. )
That is why when in Church, focus your heart and soul fully on the Lord, pray and worship. Then, the girl you seek will come naturally (and as you said, christian girls may seek SuperHoly guy, what more when they see someone, who can devote his heart fully to the Lord, not devote his heart to the newly-wed? and to union with God? She also has the Holy Spirit bestowed upon, through the Spirit of Wisdom and Knowledge (Isaiah 11: 1-2), She will see the Christ in you, the same Christ who unites people through His Body - the Church to God.

4) "Do not forget that true love sets no conditions; it does not calculate or complain, but simply loves." (Pope John Paul II). As much difference as we differ in beliefs (Catholics - Bible+Tradition+Magisterium), you have to agree with this beautiful, meaningful sentence. It is Christ's love. Therefore bro, dont give up when you love - to anyone. Give yourself an opportunity, a chance, then others will give their chances to you and to take their chances too

Lastly, love in humankind comes and goes. Only God gives a total and fruitful love. So OlgaC4 has said, seek Him first. Our mission on earth as God's children, is to ' go and make disciples of all nations, ' (Mat 19:28) - through faith, hope and love. (1 Corinthians 13:13)
*Pray: pray that God grants you the strength to persevere, the wisdom and knowledge to prepare yourself for your future spouse, so when the time comes, you present as a glorious gift for your spouse, in Christ, and through Christ. At the same time, ask Lord in prayer, is it his vocation for you? or maybe He has another plan for you? What are your strengths and weaknesses?

I will hold you in my prayers

and Hello people, I have been following this thread too, I appreciate Unknown Warrior's sharing and you all to come and gather as One Body. I am from Penang, and with the Roman Catholic (Please, I hope no bashing over RCCs - I am happy to be here, to see sharing, and love within brothers and sisters)

This post has been edited by Jedi: Nov 18 2012, 09:40 PM

Thank you, you're most welcome brother in Christ.

But I need to discuss a bit with you on your point no. 2

Jedi,

I'm a bit convicted because The Bible is very clear, the apostles or saints of God are normal humans like you and I.

Invoking them in prayer as well as to Mary is not biblical IMO. It is akin to superstition. Bear with me. Don't get angry.

I'm not saying you're not a Christian neither am I saying you're not saved.

I believe you are saved but this doctrine of Saints prayer and supplication to mary is really nothing Man's perspective adding into the Bible.

I've read about the Catholics explanation on this and I can say it's not in line with scripture for a sole reason.

The gospel is really about Jesus Christ. Nobody else.

To Focus on Mary and the saints is nothing short of distraction and diversion and addition to what the core Gospel really is.

It causes confusion brother.

We discuss this when you come back.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 19 2012, 12:47 AM

where to download christian song? No illegal plz.

What I do is use youtube downloader and dl from youtube.