diam lah.

Well, that's why I never dispute on the part when God takes away loves one.
Christians Families shouldn't be sad by right if their loves one are taken.
My pastor once told us to rejoice when He die, it's sort of got me to think years ago.
But when I contemplate, He is right.

Well yes Believers is open to fail to know whether what is God will or not, that I do not doubt, we are all learning, myself included.

That is why it's very important to grow fast in the Lord. This is my personal opinion. Being well verse in the Bible will minimise our mistake in discernment.

That I too believe. It's never a 100%. But like Paul say, We press to take hold of our Goal, to improve in the Lord, so that we do not fall into Satan's deception.





Hebrews 6:1 is a very important scripture that tells us to move in the next level, other than falling back on sin and repentance. There is nothing wrong with Salvation, but to mature, we need to complete in all aspects.

That is why I share my devotion on all these matters like prosperity, Faith, Spiritual Warfare.

That's why I purposely mention prosperity to jerk out reactions from traditional old school students of Christ who can't see beyond John 10:10 as more than spiritual aspect.

Anyway, I believe you will see the light and the truth of this. After all I leave this to our Lord Holy Spirit to guide all of us into the Truth.

There's no enforcement to believe my so called sermons, it's up to individual believers, but let is bury this in peace.

Kinda tired to keep on repeating with prophetjul.

God Bless.

From Post #1708

Well I challenge you to pull out any of my previous post to see If I said wealth is conclusive only to Material and Physical providence.
Pull it out and we'll see if indeed I have change my tune or it's just you have begun to start to comprehend sentences.
And again I hope you realize the trouble that you went through, it's really due to your comprehension that's changing rather than my words changing.
I have out line about Faith and wealth here it is again.

Post#1498
Faith
Did you know that your thoughts is exactly your Faith? Because out of your thoughts, you translates motions into your actions from believes that becomes your Faith.

Thoughts are so powerful it becomes the only place that matters to Satan to destroy your life.

The mind is usually, the priority, the first place of attack. If he can convinced you in your mind that you're without hope, the rest will follow. If he can convince you'll always be in financial poverty in your mind, the rest will follow. If He can convince you'll never get well from your terminal illness, the rest will follow.

That is why some people can get into depression, anxiety, worry, emotional stress, etc, the list is endless.

If the devil can get hold of your mind under it's fingers, he'll have a "hell" of field day destroying you by making you think destructive and negative thoughts. IMO this will lead to more serious stage of attacks once He can establish a foothold in there.

But Praise God for providing us weapons to fight back all the lies. Just remember the Devil is the Father of all Lies and God is the Truth.

Choose God's truth over the Devil's Lies.


Again in Post #1498
Prosperity Thoughts

Look at the context of the my meaning in prosperity, don't believe? Go back to that post, it's posted in 16th April 2012.



Quoting God's word to pull down Satan's stronghold also happens in the mind. How do you do it? You quote the relevant verse against the situation and let it take root in your mind.

For example,

when you are in a financial need, you quote



when you're sick or unwell, you quote

QUOTE
Isaiah 53:5
with his stripes we are healed.

It is not enough to just quote the words like some sort of a charm and see what happens.

Your Thoughts must line up with your Faith in action.

After quoting , EXPECT it in Faith that it is already there. Your Faith is what activates God to deliver you and to answer you. That's why 2 Corinthians 10 says mighty through God

Dear Friends, the Devil wants you to think Poverty Life, God wants you to think Prosperity Life (3 John 1:2)

Choose Today your thoughts. God's Thoughts or the Devil's thoughts.


Anywhere in those verse mention about Material? Accusing Jello, Flying in my face and so-so huh?




Well the reason why I asked you to check the dictionary because we must have a proper base of understanding what a word means.
Contemporary Dictionaries will give ALL the possible definitions to the meaning of a single word. In the dictionary the word prosperity is the state of flourishing, thriving, good fortune and / or successful social status which is correct. The word euodousthai points to a state of flourishing, that means successful undertakings.

Well Yes God cares enough to want to uplift your Life status, from glory to glory from victory to victory.

Only Carnal Christians bother to live in the flesh to condemn other Christians and do so out of pride.

I have proven to you that All Scripture is God's breath, Even greetings can be used to speak to you.

Here it is again.

From Post#1548

The Lexicon explains that euodousthai is to help on the road, i.e. (passively) succeed in reaching; figuratively, to succeed in business affairs -- (have a) prosper(-ous journey).

Actually you're just enforcing the word Good. The actual translation of Greek is euodousthai is STILL prosperous journey.
Question is, if you insist it's a wish of a journey, my question is, journey to where? No doubt you can say it's a form of greeting in general but it wouldn't make sense because Gaius wasn't going anywhere at the point of greeting. Therefore it is really a form of general greeting wishing you a prosperous journey in life which is which is similar to wishing you prosperous in Life.

As I said before, All Scripture is God inspired. Even introduction greetings is God's messages reaching out to you through the pen stroke of the writer.

You're welcome to argue this but I don't see it'll get you anywhere. The definition is explained clearly here.


Since when did I say God will be disappointed with the believer's Faith? Go ahead and show us here.

And I expect you understand by now

Jesus being poor is irrelevant to your point.
Smyra is irrelevant to your point.

Here's the answer again in Post#1586

Smyra is an event in the future yet to happen. The Scripture tells us that they're going through some kind of affliction and their poverty is somehow related. The word Rich according to Barnes Note relates to God's favour and grace. Here if you study the scripture, God is acknowledging their (2) conditions. 1. Affliction 2. Poverty. That is the meaning of I know*


Well I did ask you to quote which part of the exact verse in the scripture and I'll answer you. Give me which Book, which verse. Understand ah? lol.

Here it is again in post # 1731

There are more commands in Leviticus than Promises of God. I believe you should know all the OT Commands are all summed into only 2 command in the NT. I would appreciate if you know which blessing you're indicating, then I will tell you.



This verse means that God doesn't need anyone defending him. He is powerful enough to reach to his child to Teach him.
If believers start to take things into their own initiative for judgement, it becomes like Islam where Man become the Judge rather than allowing God to be the rightful one. You will be very carnal to do so.



This verse basically coincide with

And you shoot yourself in your own foot by the very verse that you give. lol

Romans 14:4 refers to FOOD, a minor issue
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant?


I'm not talking about kritikos, James 4:11 says about Believers as Human Being judging and slandering others. The word is there Brothers referring to Human not God.

Exactly brother, read back your answers

14But the natural man receivethnot the things of the Spirit of God: for they arefoolishness unto him: neither *can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned . 15But he that is spiritual judgethall things, yet he himself is judgedof no man.16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instructhim? But we have the mind of Christ.


Do you know what is the meaning of Things in this context?
He that is spiritual judges all things, Not judge Man, quoting 2 Tim 3: 13 calling me as Evil is slander and judgemental.

Again this goes against you judging others, look at the bold.

1 Corinthians 6:5

I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide [diakrino] between his brethren?

Paul is calling that as shame.

1 Corinthians 14:29
Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.

Notice the word there 2 or 3 and Prophets? You are 2 or 3 prophets? So far only 1 you and you I don't think you're a prophet. Thank you.


Hebrews 4:12
For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge [kritikos] the thoughts and intentions of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).

That is the work of the Holy Ghost to change his believer and I don't see how this is relevant in this discussion.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 27 2012, 11:24 AM

Oh yes more of oh mah eyes.

No Seriously, Bring them out, I want this to be settled so that you understand, no point to say there's too many therefore you'll leave it. Because you'll just keep on repeating again.

How is it that you can accept part of it and not before?
Did I even say it's necessarily only material prosperity?
Common, quote back my post If you think I'm trying to change like Jello.
Do you have the slightest comprehension of what I meant?


Who doesn't know the weapon is God's word?
Saying this just to look as If I was wrong? Read back again as to which part it's wrong. Highlight it.

Why Am I not in the least surprise?
Hint: Comprehension problem.

Wrong.

Read back again. You repeat your question with the answers already given

Actually you're just enforcing the word Good. The actual translation of Greek is euodousthai is STILL prosperous journey.
Question is, if you insist it's a wish of a journey, my question is, journey to where? No doubt you can say it's a form of greeting in general but it wouldn't make sense because Gaius wasn't going anywhere at the point of greeting. Therefore it is really a form of general greeting wishing you a prosperous journey in life which is which is similar to wishing you prosperous in Life.

As I said before, All Scripture is God inspired. Even introduction greetings is God's messages reaching out to you through the pen stroke of the writer.
Whether it's Paul writing, Wishing or Moses writing and wishing, it doesn't matter.

Well the reason why I asked you to check the dictionary because we must have a proper base of understanding what a word means.
Contemporary Dictionaries will give ALL the possible definitions to the meaning of a single word. In the dictionary the word prosperity is the state of flourishing, thriving, good fortune and / or successful social status which is correct. The word euodousthai points to a state of flourishing, that means successful undertakings.



You're the one who enforce wrong thinking on yourself, so blame yourself.
Next time have the humility to ask and clarify if this is what I mean or is that what I meant instead of shooting out
your mouth without control.




If God is the one who convicts, fine. You try and take his place to judge? Go look yourself in the mirror First.

Matthew 7:3
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?



Repeat Question, Repeat Answer.

Jesus understood perfectly. He became poor so that through His sacrifice on the cross, He reconciled us back to God so that our Heavenly Father can reach to us and bless us with every blessing which include Material wealth, that's the meaning of the last part we become Rich.

Read the entire passage.

2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.

The "whatever reason" is important because that is what complete the meaning of 2 Corinthians 8:9. Otherwise you'll be quoting scripture out of context as you so evidently accuse me of.

This is a matter of misunderstanding principal. Nothing to do with pleasing God.

You quote the part of Jesus being poor out of context. 2 Corinthians 8:9 never even mention about asking you as the believer to be poor and to follow as an example Because there are many things Jesus did by example and He asked us to follow. A good reference would be when He washed the disciple's feet. If we were to agree with your line of reasoning, then by Jesus walking on the water, We should give a try too? Common, have better sense.

Nope God is RIGHT to commend Smyra for their Faith.




Smyra is an event in the future yet to happen. The Scripture tells us that they're going through some kind of affliction and their poverty is somehow related. The word Rich according to Barnes Note relates to God's favour and grace. Here if you study the scripture, God is acknowledging their (2) conditions. 1. Affliction 2. Poverty.

According to online dictionary the meaning of commend

to present, mention, or praise as worthy of confidence, notice, kindness, etc.

I believe you're hinting towards praise. But if you study the NIV translation below, Jesus says I know, He did say I praise your poverty. Again, I don't see how you're using this to support your preposition.

Did I say you need to obey 613 mitzvots?
Or it's you who say one must obey 613 mitzvots?

Do you understand why all the laws have been summarised into 2 New Covenant?

Can you find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus says He abolished all the Blessings in the OT?

Do you understand the meaning of ALL scripture is God's breath? Do you that God can use the OT to speak to you so to speak and thus the meaning of God inspired Word?

Whether it's minor or major, doesn't matter. What Matter is this verse

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant?

which you are not practising and yet you claim you are Jesus Disciples.

Not a very Good testimony IMO.




John 7:24 is referring the Pharisee who condemn Jesus for Healing on a Sabbath.
Jesus rebuke them because they are only concern in religious outward Appearance.

I don't see how this gives you the right to judge, wrong verse wrong context to support your preposition.

That's right, isn't this a shame? You doing all the judging. Maybe you should really see carefully on this text and meditate on it to see if it applies to you.

Paul is admonishing believers not Judge towards another Believer. That is the context. Read it, if you don't believe.

Wrong Context. 1 Corinthians 14:29 is talking about Orderly Worship in the Church, The discernment is upon speaking in tongues.

You quote everything wrong out of context.


LOL, this is a command for all Believers to practise. If you think it's only for Jesus's time with the Pharisee, my advise is, go back to Bible Class and learn again.
I think you're not really following the Bible. You just quote stuff just to make it seem like your point is right when I've shown all above you do it out of context.




You may be forewarned as in this context but Jesus never ask you to voice out in condemn towards anyone in this verse.
Read the verse again. By doing so, you emit Carnal Nature as you so like to accuse me of.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 27 2012, 05:35 PM

I used to struggled with Porn too last time.

Dunno why out of the sudden, the feeling is taken away.

I can only attribute it to Jesus who in his grace remove it supernaturally.

From time to time the temptation may come but I believe

we need to Train ourselves to run or turn away from all potential visual that gives this problem.

Running away or turning away means we don't trust our confidence in our flesh to resist.

It's very biblical to turn our eyes away because our eye is like the lamp to our body.

Not easy I know but takes discipline and determination.

You got to do it before the visual impact hit your eyes NOT when it already hit your eye.

The things is, if by the title u already know or suspect can lead to mild porn, don't open lor.
Sometime you see those title like midnight snacks, nasi lemak, ah moi, etc can be misleading title sometimes but in my spirit I ady know ler.

So tell yourself. You love Jesus more than your Flesh.


See what?

That one last time.

Now no more already.

Yes really.

So long, ago. Dunno Dun care.

Talking nonsense.

When you confess your sins, God forgive and remember your sins no more.

You don't believe ar?

ok lor.

Not like that.

Last time still immature, don't understand the problem associated with it and how to solve it.

Now Mature ady don't want to have anything to do with it.

You can decide which is better. To be in bondage or to be free?

It's like this, you may think watching porn is nothing but it causes your internal spirit to be in darkness.

When this happens, you will automatically feel guilty and try to avoid God. You put yourself in bondage la.

Your whole character also like out of control.

But God's Mercy is everlasting, so don't take it for granted la.

Remember the prostitute the Pharisee wanted to stone her? BY Right She's done a great Sin should be stoned according to Moses Law but Yet Jesus says let the first one without sin cast the first stone. Nobody could, because they are all hypocrites.

Did Jesus condemn her? No Jesus says Neither do I condemn you, GO and sin no more.

It's God goodness that lead you to repentance.

Ini Ajaran sesat ni.

I also dunno wat you talking.


The Blood of Jesus washes everyday every minute.

When you confess, God remembers the Cross.

God will never leave you.

Maybe you should do like Paul.




Notice the bold and underline part?

Practise that when you're tempted to give up.

Common Misconception.

If you have a heart that's right you won't take Jesus Sacrifice for granted for there is a safety valve against licentious lifestyle.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 27 2012, 09:38 PM

refer Post#1777.

Hi there, enjoy your stay.

I like Psalms 30:5 too.

Very powerful encouragement.

No amount of money that you can pay.

Not very good testimony loh.