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stefanong
post Oct 19 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 19 2012, 02:48 PM)
That's not what we're talking about it.
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My apologies. I answered the question as is.
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post Oct 19 2012, 03:00 PM

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Eh the purpose now?

Well as far as I know 2 Tim 3:16 essentially spells it out for us.



QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 19 2012, 02:53 PM)
The contention is not what's in the 10 commandments.

I believe the biggest problem is for mostly in here is trying to understand what is the purpose of the 10 commandments.
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post Oct 19 2012, 03:03 PM

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Thought I answered this earlier.



QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 19 2012, 02:58 PM)
Jesus's missionary job was in Nazareth and Jerusalem. Many of the target audiences were Jews.

Do not pick words.
You need to understand why, how, who etc etc it was said.

There is no need to rolleyes.
Of course, the salvation is for everyone.

My God doesn't shoot His own feet.
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post Oct 19 2012, 03:21 PM

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Actually the Scriptures include the Law of Moses which was divided both into the Law of Rituals and the Law of Rightneousness which the New Testament validates (the latter).

So again, remember the context. Just understanding bits and pieces of scripture in isolation is extremely dangerous.



QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 19 2012, 03:14 PM)
Not talking about Salvation.
Yes if you and I can agree that God doesn't shoot is own foot, then all Scripture is relevant.
It's for everyone. And remember Jesus did not only talk about Salvation When he first preached in the sermon on the mount, there's a mouthful of things there. If you insist certain passages or whatever  in the book of Hebrew is only meant for the Jew then you must be consistent that Jesus's preaching is only meant for the Jews as well, otherwise you contradict yourself.
No.

Galatians 3:19
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post Oct 19 2012, 03:23 PM

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delete due to empty post..im that absent minded lol

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post Oct 19 2012, 03:28 PM

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No point just answering your post.

You wanted to know the purpose apparently you disagreed with my reply stating 2 Tim .. that it was incorrect.

I just wanted to expand your horizon by clueing you in that scriptures arent just the Gospels or Epistles...that the scriptures in its entirety includes the Torah including the law of Moses, 10 commandments, the Pentateuch and etc.. as well...

the context bit was added in hopes that you may find that tip useful in enhancing your personal exploration of the scriptures.


QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 19 2012, 03:22 PM)
I know that but I don't get what's your point?
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post Oct 19 2012, 03:34 PM

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proggy on the fritz hehe

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post Oct 19 2012, 04:21 PM

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The scripture has to be read in its entirety and within the proper context and background. Some people take not the bible in its entirety but, like "picking durian" (great term), choose to pick and choose verses that they like out of its proper context and then use it to further a point. Most cults and deviant teaching is birthed from this. Nothing is more dangerous than half truth or incomplete truths. Out right lies are easy to spot but partial truth is very very deceptive.

For example:

Luke 6:38

Give and it will be given to you pressed down....

Its normally used as a classic verse for offering and tithes..but if you read it carefully in its context that means the entire Luke 6 especially in 34 to 37 you find out, Hang on, this verse is not about offering!!?? Its actually about mercy and grace and nothing about giving money to get blessing. But why so many people have been spouting out this verse when collecting offering?

Simple. Because its out of context.

So who to follow? Simple no one. Huh you say?

Yes! Test the scriptures yourself. Armed with a good concordance (Strong's is a good one), probably a study bible/Vine's commentary, lion's handbook is great too (my favourite)...read up about the setting, the place, purpose...etc (someone already covered that) and guided by the Holy Spirit, you will have no problems uncovering what the scripture speaks to you personally.

pehkay shares the whole importance of understanding a scripture in its depth and entirety rather nicely.


QUOTE(hotjake @ Oct 19 2012, 03:46 PM)
one guy say his interpretation is the true and complete one, he quotes the bible. the other guys say he's wrong. he quotes the bible.
who to follow for that matter?
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