Oh do not misunderstand.

God says (Proverbs 5:14)

Drink water from your own cistern, running water from your own well. See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness.
Meaning to say only be sexually stimulated towards your own wife.

This means sexual behavior can be controlled. (something that baffles?) 

But those without God in their can never never get their own lust under control. No matter you do.

Sorry brother if I sound harsh but this things I said is to God's glory. Because it's to tell you your by your own effort, you will never be able to do it.

I don't know how It happen in my life, I only know this deliverance is not from me but my God who gives me the strength.

I attribute it to God because I know myself very well. I would have not been able to stop myself from porn.

And it is  justified because like I said in case you miss this.

Sin is destructive because Luke 11:34 Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are good, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are bad, your body also is full of darkness. Case and example porn will lead to lust and lust to coveting  and coveting you will destroy those you love around you. That's why there promiscuity, cheating and unfaithful relationship.

Don't tell me you desire something destructive? 

He already did ler..........

a) Jesus died
b) Jesus Resurrected from the dead to show us He has power over DEATH
c) Jesus never died again

Its all written in the christian scriptures.......for us to read and BELIEVE.
If its only a THEORY, then all the 1st 11 disciples are FOOLS
because they became MARTYRS for a theory........
OR  they were
WITNESSES to the RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ and after never
feared the threat of death .....due to their witnessing of the good news
of SALVATION

Shalom

Bro Wintersun, you were in control with the previous replies until you started to lose it slowly and ended with this post.

I was wanting to see more legit discussions from someone who believes and someone who don't.

And yes "unknown warrior", you do sound like a hypocrite online with those words. I believe it is not your fault though because you haven't learn the way to approach non-Christians by straight stuffing down their throats with scripture verses, that is not how God approached sinful men in the first place.

I am not saying you are wrong, just be more approachable next time.

And yes, I am a Christian. I've seen alot of hypocrites in real life too, but that's a separate issue.

Romans 8: 1-2

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
God's goodness leads to repentance. Question is which one comes first? Repentance that leads to God's goodness or God's goodness that leads to repentance?

Consider when the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery to Jesus while he was teaching. We all know that they wanted to stone her according to the law of Moses and at the same time trap Jesus to bring him to accusation to put him to death. We also know that Jesus said in effect, those who are without sin, let him cast the first stone. One by one they left beginning from the oldest to the youngest. And this is the interesting part. Look below:

John 8:10-11

Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.

How is it that the Church emphasize so heavily on repentance first when we can see clearly here Jesus is depicting the Goodness of God that empower and leads us to repentance and Sin no more.

Back in the days of old it has always been ministry of brimstone and hell and sin condemnation. That has cause Christian to be so sin cautious they become afraid to approach God when they fall short of righteousness. That is a lie and deception of the devil to brainwash your thinking that your works is able to give you  salvation. That is exactly what we see in all the religions of this world. Salvation in human effort or works.

Do you see the deception?

John 1:17. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

We all have been saved by grace not by works.

The Book of God tells us to bless all those who persecute us.

I understand you're opening your own business?

I pray to God to bless your business and for you to be in good health as well.

God Bless.

Sure provide your business address, I might bring my family for Makan.

Refer to my earlier post ... hmmm ... can't find it XD ... anymore I cut/paste

There are two different kinds of people: one kind does evil, and the other kind does good. According to good and evil, these two kinds of people are absolutely different. Yet in the matter of putting God aside and not giving God any place, they are absolutely the same. Just as those who do evil put God aside, so those who do good also put God aside. Just as those who do evil do not give God any room, so those who do good also do not give God any room. These two kinds of people behave differently-one does good and the other does evil; nevertheless, they have exactly the same kind of attitude toward God. Those who do evil give up the law, thereby rejecting God, and those who do good keep the law, thereby also rejecting God. The former forsake God by violating the law, while the latter forsake God by observing the law. Both groups of people have problems because of the law. The first group of people gives up God because they have broken the law, whereas the second group forsakes God because they consider that they have kept the law. Hence, we can see that both these conditions of rejecting God are related to the law.

GOD DESIRING US NEITHER TO DO EVIL NOR TO DO GOOD

Then what should we choose? Should we choose good or evil? Should we choose to break the law or to keep the law? On the surface, it seems that it is much better to keep the law than to break the law, because it appears that breaking the law alienates us from God while keeping the law might bring us closer to God. Thus, it seems that we should choose to do good. However, although doing good might appear to be a worthy goal, yet it is not the right goal, and in fact it is the wrong goal. Doing evil is an unworthy goal and the wrong goal as well. Therefore, both good and evil are wrong. Of course, God has absolutely no intention for us to do evil, but neither does He intend for us to do good. God's intention is neither for us to be responsible to do evil nor for us to be responsible to do good.

Those who sin and do evil, such as bandits, robbers, and fornicators, put God aside and do not care about God. If they were aware of God, they would be afraid to do evil things. The reason they dare to do evil things is that they do not acknowledge the existence of God; they have put God aside. Those who conduct themselves in an upright and proper manner are moral and good in others' eyes. They are often boastful, saying, "What are heaven and hell? Who is God and who is the devil? Such things do not exist! Everything depends on our conducting ourselves according to our conscience. We should do things according to proper reasoning. We should not do things that would hurt others, nor should we do things that would harm ourselves. We should take care of others as well as ourselves. It is good enough that we conduct ourselves in an upright way." People like this have good behavior, their words are trustworthy, and their character is good, but they do not acknowledge the existence of God. This is to be good. People who are good in this way are commendable but mistaken because their goal is incorrect.

MAN BEING CREATED TO CONTAIN GOD

In the beginning God created man neither to do good nor to do evil. Rather, God created man for His purpose. He wanted man to have fellowship with Him, to be filled with Him, to live in Him, and to be mingled with Him as one entity. Man was created for God as a vessel to contain God (Rom. 9:21, 23). This is similar to a glass being made as a vessel to contain water. It is wrong to put dirty things into the glass, but even if we put gold into it, it is still wrong. This is because the glass was made as a vessel to contain water, not other things.

Human beings were created neither to contain evil nor to contain good. We were created neither to be evil persons nor to be good persons. Then what kind of people should we be? How can a living person do neither evil nor good? Can anyone escape from good and evil? None of us can. A person who is without God cannot escape from good, evil, and death in his life. Only a person who has died does neither good nor evil.

BEING NEITHER GOOD MEN NOR EVIL MEN BUT GOD-MEN

In the garden of Eden there were two trees: the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Gen. 2:9). Concerning the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the Bible says that he who eats of it shall surely die (v. 17). When someone eats of this tree, it may seem to be evil, but it is actually death, or it may seem to be good, but in reality it is still death. The issue of evil is death, and the issue of good is also death. These three-good, evil, and death-are inseparable. Then what is the tree of life in the middle of the garden? This tree of life is life itself. What man sees is life, what he eats is life, and the issue of his eating is also life. Who is this life? This life is God Himself.

Please remember that in the garden of Eden the first tree- the tree of life-is God Himself, and the second tree-the tree of the knowledge of good and evil-is good, evil, and death. People on earth who do not have God choose the second tree instead of the first. The result of choosing the second tree is good, evil, and death. They are good men, evil men, and eventually dead men. These three kinds of persons are all in the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Then, as saved ones, are we good men, evil men, or dead men? Praise the Lord, we who have been saved have the life of God in us, so we are God-men.

However, is our real situation like this? Are we God-men in our daily living? This is a big problem. It is very difficult for us to be freed from the law in our human living. We are always turning back to the law, and the law is always following us. Even today, having become Christians, we still cannot easily break away from the law, and instead of living to God, we still live before the law to be people of the law. Although we have been saved and we have God in us, we do not live to God.

As human beings we were created for God Himself. We are vessels to contain God. We should not take good or evil into us; rather, we should take God into us. How can God be put into us? It is by means of the Holy Spirit. The Scriptures tell us clearly that when the Holy Spirit is in us, God is in us (1 John 3:24; 4:13; Rom. 8:9a, 11). What does God want us to do? God wants us to be dead to the law so that we may live to God. Before we were saved, we lived to good and evil; that is, we lived to death. Now that we are saved, we should start learning to live to God. This means that as vessels to contain God according to His purpose in creating man, we should live to God instead of living to the law. We should be neither good men nor evil men but God-men.

Err .... you have a sound mind right? You can discern what is conky or not ...?

For me, I read the Bible and experience God from it. What it reveals about His intention is too awesome. I didn't made anything up other than share what I enjoyed from it.

God did say repent from all Sin. That alone speaks to do good and avoid evil.

What pehkey say is right, maybe his way of explanation is TLDR for you?

the reason i don want to quite is because later u guys ask me go RWI again

Since when pehkay says that?
Whether your anger or dissatisfaction is genuine or of subconscious level it is still dissatisfaction non the less.

And I do appreciate your honesty. Nothing wrong IMO.

Refer to my earlier post ... hmmm ... can't find it XD ... anymore I cut/paste

GOD DESIRING US NEITHER TO DO EVIL NOR TO DO GOOD

Well unless you can tell me which part of their interpretation of the bible is correct and the rest of the Christian, is wrong, then we have something of basis to discuss.

No Jake you're not doomed.
You may say you disbelieve God but something inside of me tells me you really do only misunderstood.

how do u expect to be saved if u do not want to enter the house of God?

at it's core, all you need to do is believe, that's it. there is no such thing as you must go church every week, must give 10% as tithes, must do this must do that otherwise you lose your salvation.

none of these are linked to salvation. there are other reasons why we need to tithe, go church, etc, but i do not know of any church that says you must do all these otherwise you lose your salvation and go to hell.

No I am not an official Pastor.
Just a willing servant of God.

Actually what I know should be the basic fundamental of what Christians should know.

If there's anything we can do for you, let us know.
Honestly I don't know why but the Bible is clear that no human nor angels are to be worshipped as they are but creation of God.
The only one who deserve to be worshipped is God himself.

God = Jesus.