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Mar 26 2012, 10:53 AM
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Mar 26 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 10:54 AM) Mary is a woman of God just like everyone else in the bible.She is among the people like Abraham, David, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc. You don't pray to human beings, wintersun. True that she was the biological mother to bear the child Christ but God never declare, neither did he mention that she is the Mother of God because after the resurrection, Jesus has been restored to full Power from the limitation of human being. If there is, you should know which part of the Bible that says this otherwise. Wintersun, I rather that you speak with wisdom, than trying to troll. |
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Mar 26 2012, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 11:05 AM) No bro, not troll. Jesus wasn't divine because of Mary.So your analogy is when mary born jesus, Jesus is not divine and no need give a shit? After resurrect only have Godly power and deserve to worship as God? Like dat is like when ppl poor no power u kick him aside when got money only u respect and go fren fren him la Lessay you worship jesus even when he is in human form then mary who born jesus is not consider mother of god? Like dat mary so hard go through the life and born jesus saja for God to use as a host? where can like dat He is divine because He is the son of God, not the son of Mary. This is what separates the divinity of Jesus from Mary. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 26 2012, 11:13 AM |
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Mar 26 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Mar 26 2012, 11:19 AM) Anyways I'm about to start a new topic here. Then where you are now is no accident. If this is impressed upon you, you must pray for them and love them despite their back-sliden nature.I am deeply sadden that a lot of "self-proclaim" Christian who calls themselves Christian but comes into office daily with F-word, smoking and basically there is no conviction in them. Grace of God to them seemed so cheap, taken for granted. We really need a prayer (A LONG Prayer) on this. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 26 2012, 11:26 AM |
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Mar 26 2012, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 01:21 PM) Im depression now cos not sure about my life direction. Can u guys pray for me so I can find the direction to become rich? QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 01:42 PM) dafuq?~!! ask u pray for me then u tell me rich cannot make me happy. Every individual is different bro~!! if money cant make u happy doesnt mean cant make me happy. And im not worship money. Im just ask u help pray me success become rich. Then i can donate alot and make ppl happy also make me happy QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 01:50 PM) thtas what im doing. Im seek his kingdom here and ask u all pray for me You are right. God knows the heart of each individual. He knows if money/riches will destroy an individual and Im not go seek money then only God He knows who can handle money/riches and yet maintain a deep relationship with God as first priority. Because Money is just a temporal happiness. It's not lasting joy. Allow me to explain why. The moment you have loads of money, you're happy. The moment you have none, you're Not happy. If Money becomes the condition of your happiness, then you have a problem. What will you do when you're always low on money and never have enough? That's when you decide to get miserable and you get angry easily towards people. You think because of the lack of money, it gives you the license to mistreat people. Money is not a real source of Joy. Even if you have a brand new BMW, you'll probably hold your happiness up to certain months and after that, it's becomes nothing really. By then you'll want something more, maybe a Ferrari. Point is, the things of this world is a false sense of security and happiness. It doesn't last. That's why I say this is a problem. So my question to you. Is your pursuit of money stronger or your pursuit of God is stronger? Because one of the perks of being a Christian is that God will take care of all your needs as long as you put Him as FIRST priority (Mat 6:33) If that is the case you should start of by letting God meet your basic need first. And improvise as you mature spiritually. If you let God be your first priority, God can be your everlasting joy. QUOTE Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, QUOTE Romans 15:13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. Since Money is evidently just temporary happiness, we should seek an even better Joy which is only found in God. God Bless. |
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Mar 27 2012, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Mar 26 2012, 11:27 PM) That's why we say beware of those who preach the 'gospel of wealth'. Allow me to balance this up before anyone gets confuse.You can have all the money, but there are those who've obtained it illegally/etc yet they feel proud? All this physical/earthly things you cannot bring with you when you die.. I know some people who are saying it's ok because it's just a minor thing not a sin being commited... When I read 'Everyday With Jesus' 3 days ago there's an interesting part: "To ignore the reality of sin is dishonest. To tamper with labels and call a serious thing by a light name is utter foolishness. We don't make a deadly thing innocuous by giving it a different name. Poison is still poison - no matter what label we give it." There is nothing wrong with having money whether it's loads of it or less of it. God knows this is a legitimate need that needs no reason nor justification to having it. People cannot live without money while on earth. The problem akin to money is this. Like I said before, Is your pursuit of money stronger or your pursuit of God is stronger? The moment you focus on pursuing money, you will lose your focus on spiritual pursuit of God and drop it to secondary and maybe even further as times goes by. Those who are new in Christ or still in the immature spiritual stage, will be in the danger of this category because they lack the knowledge. Jesus never says to pursue money at all. You won't find it in the Bible. In Fact He says Seek first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you! (Mat 6:33) Jesus is saying YOU WILL HAVE IT. Since you are going to have your financial needs met, why pursue it at all? In fact It will come pursuing you, but what is the condition? Read the verse again. So is it wrong that there are Genuine Christians who are very Rich and Wealthy? Is it Sinful for them to be in that state? None at all because they know their priority. God will promote and increase you when He sees you are humbled and ready to serve others. In fact if you ask really spiritual people, they will tell you they have no attachment to money, neither do they see it as something worth pursuing. One of the secret to having an abundant and blessed financial life is to keep on tithing faithfully to Church and to keep on generously giving to those in need, like the homeless, welfare, etc. Do it with the right heart because it's the right thing to do. Don't do it for the sake that you want to be rich. God is not fooled. QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Mar 26 2012, 11:27 PM) Another topic: Jesus has given us a new covenant in NT that Salvation is by Faith.I remember a 'church' who went house by house, so I listened to them, basically they picked this verse that says something like no matter we do good or evil, we go nowhere. So they kept telling me, I must have been always exposed to the teachings that doing good will lead you to kingdom of god and doing evil will lead you to hell. So they told me you won't go anywhere, doesn't matter good/evil. The I just kept on nodding trying to get rid of them lol. It is not through doing good works. Salvation through works is under the old law of the OT. Yes you can ignore that erroneous doctrine. QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Mar 26 2012, 11:27 PM) Correct me if i'm wrong, of course when we die we don't go anywhere yet, until Jesus comes again to judge the living and the dead. So this is an example of people who uses verses of bible to influence is a wrong way? They don't tell you the whole context/story. Only use the literal verses. QUOTE Romans 6:9-10 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. QUOTE Hebrew 7:27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. Catholic theology believes Purgatory is a temporary place where Christian’s soul goes to after death to be punished and cleansed of the sins that had not been fully satisfied during life. If man is to be punished That basically means man's salvation can be attain in purgatory by self effort or work and this very clearly conflicts the work of the cross where Jesus redeem us. Romans and Hebrew scripture above clearly says Jesus Sacrifice for our sins is complete, finish and once for all. All of God's Judgement and wrath fell upon Jesus consumed it into his human body, stoke after stroke after stroke of the punishment when it was done, He cried, IT IS FINISHED! (John 19:30) Once and For ALL. Nobody need to do purgatory cleansing for any kind of Sin any more. That is God's unmerited grace for you and for me. Self effort is self righteousness. Jesus says to only believe in his perfect finished work because our own blood is stain with sin and our self effort can never atone. Jesus says I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. No ones comes to the Father but THROUGH me NOT through our punishment in Purgatory. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 27 2012, 01:02 AM |
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Mar 28 2012, 11:08 AM
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What do you know about God part 2?
QUOTE John 13:34-35 A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” QUOTE Matthew 5:44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you This is the one central key of great importance that separates Christianity from the rest of the religion in this world. LOVE. Why is this verse important and why does it seem there's a complete change in the New Testament from the Old Testament where there always seem to be Judgement and Punishment and God's wrath? Answer: Because Man's Sin is already paid for in Jesus Christ. God no longer holds his Judgement against you. QUOTE Hebrew 8:12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." Dear Brothers and Sisters, when you know you are LOVED and FORGIVEN of all SINS, you will have no desire to hate others because you are satisfied and complete within. As Bad as you were, as corrupted as you were, as hateful as you were, as ruthless as you were, God still wants you. And He STILL chose you despite of your flaws. This is love that surpasses All understanding. It's like this, when you wronged someone or someone wronged you, naturally you'll want to avoid that person. Why Because you feel that either that person owe you or you owe the other person, some form of apology. Same thing with God, when you know you've sinned against God, naturally you'll want to avoid if not run away. Dear Friends, you don't have to run or avoid anymore. Hebrews 8:12 Declare you are forgiven. Since you are completely forgiven, then you no longer need to hold on to grudges towards others. Release it and your forgiveness will release you and lighten your burden. You will be light weighted and you can move faster and better and higher to the place of greater heights. Why is Love central in the New Testament? Love is what unites Man throughout the world. You will not find any record of God's wrath in the New Testament. Consider the following Scripture that testify of God's New Covenant. QUOTE John 18:10-11 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.) Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! QUOTE Luke 9:54-55 God Desire Mercy and not judgement.When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?"But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; Jesus has been consistent in his action to testify the world, that God is a God who desire Love and Mercy more than Judgement and Wrath. And if you do as He says, his word declares "By this all men will know that you are my disciples". If God himself acknowledge that you as his disciples, Then God knows you. God Bless! |
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 28 2012, 11:24 AM) Got money buy BMW make me happy few months. To preach about God, you must know God personally. No money always preach God to everyone u think can make me happy how many days? If you know God personally, you can have joy, peace and happiness throughout your life even if you don't have much money. But If you truly know God, He will provide all your needs in life. QUOTE Philippians 4:19 And my God will supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 28 2012, 11:35 AM |
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Dear Brothers n Sister in Christ
My advise to you is, try not get into argument with non believers in this forum. Because you will get nothing out of it but insults and scorn because those who don't know God are still under the influence of the Anti-Christ. Instead guard what you say and try your best to only use your words to build others up. If you want to maintain your integrity as a Christian and be the salt and light of this world, follow what God says as below. QUOTE 2 Timothy 2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. QUOTE Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. QUOTE 1 Thessalonians 5:11 Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing. QUOTE Ephesians 4:49 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. |
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Well Happy to hear that.
I implore all Christians in /k/ to keep yourself strong in the Lord. Lets keep this tered alive and continue the fellowship. It doesn't matter which denomination you're from, we are all from the body of Christ and Jesus is the head of the Church. Those who are of experience and mature spiritually, should contribute to build others up. If you have any testimony, do not be afraid to share it here. If you need prayers, please make your requests known. God Bless. |
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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Mar 29 2012, 04:05 AM) Thank GOD to let me wake up at this hour to let me study for the last time before I enter the exam hall. QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Mar 29 2012, 08:55 AM) jus curious..haha God has put you in your church to be built and to build others. I believe It's all in the timing. i think we shud have gathering to gather all christian together.. to fellowship and to share..instead of every week oso see the same face in church.. Even in my church I see the same faces but I tell myself, I can still learn from them. Because when ministers speak, you must remember it is the holy spirit who speaks. The Ministers do not speak on his own. This thread is our sanctuary where we have a place to pour out our hearts. In this place I thank God we can fellowship and keep ourselves strong in the Lord. As Christians we are called to be light of this world. To be a light, we cannot walk in darkness as others do. Because if we do, we are no different and cannot be a testimony for our God. |
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 29 2012, 10:48 AM) Everything also say God. Wake up morning can shit also thank god. Wallet got enough money pump petrol also thank god. That's because we have confidence in God for everything.When kena bad things like people rob then will say yourself not careful. When suddenly car no petrol blame self say why din pump full tank. No logic in all this. God is just word for you to say when good things happen. Cannot brain QUOTE Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father Nothing Bad will happen to us If our God does not permit it. We don't declare bad things will happen neither do we curse ourselves. |
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