V10 engine????

I already see two Forte FL SX at my company carpark.

Damn jealous...

Hey guys, need to ask something different from FL discussion

I need to renew my insurance road tax soon for my 1.6SX (can't believe it's been 1 year... )

But when I called they said the adjuster dunno what's the market value for the car now . You guys have any rough idea on the current value of the car? So that I can make some assumption on how much coverage to buy.

Thanks...

Wow, it sounds like the type of stuff Desmond does.

The original Forte was actually pretty quiet. The biggest noise was the tyre noise. Did you hear significant tyre noise in your new FL?

Hmm...problems? There wasn't any big problems for mine (1yr).

The relatively minor problems my car had (mostly just some sounds that my sensitive ears picked up...the car is quiet, so they sound more obvious):

- Squeaking sound from the seat. Still there after 1yr and 7x visit to service center. Gave up on it...not always noticeable.
- Aircond vent click click sound. Probably the clips are not good. After parking under the hot sun, there's "orchestra" of click sounds. But after a while it stops. Again they said can't do much about it during the recent service clinic. I checked out the newer Fortes and I pressed hard on the vents...found them to be a lot more secure, so no problems for new buyers I suppose
- Some dashboard rattling...comes and goes, not always reproducible, so I gave up on that too.
- Seat belt height adjuster noise. Sometimes there, sometimes not, now I ignore it. Slightly annoying as the adjuster is located right next to my ear.

Some mechanical problems me/other people had:
- Air cond compressor. Heard some cases of them bursting. But most of the time the symptoms show up earlier (probably shaking a lot when turned on). So, they get replaced before the big problems show up. I think KFC got his compressor replaced. In the service dealer I go to, looks like more than 10 cases in Penang.
- Suspension: er..only hear from KFC that his absorbers gone....probably due to driving style?? Haha...
- Engine hum. I got my power steering pump replaced as my engine had a humming noise (a whirling sound that you can hear 1-2 seconds after you stepped and released the throttle). But some degree of humming will still be there if we're using hydraulic ps as it is generated by the moving liquids.


Car problems will always hit a certain percentage of people. Other than a few minor things (which I think often occur in T&H cars too!) the Forte is great. Still smiling while driving it after a year

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Mar 5 2011, 03:57 PM

Interesting...but there's no wire connected to the seat belt clip in my car. I saw a wire there for my friend's Kenari, I suppose that's why my seatbelt warning light doesn't really function and just goes off after a while when starting the car.

So if you need the seatbelt on for airbag to work, dunno how they sense it....

Probably the compressor burst? Heard a few cases for the older Forte...

How did you get 15k number? Based on 68k and not 76k? (assuming 1.6SX)

I think someone mentioned that the value is around 72k now?

I see thanks. Based on picture 84k was the upper limit? 76k is just the sum epo wanted to insure la....Probably the nominal value is around 80k?

If 2.0L really sell for 76k for after 1 year i think it's worth buying

Means if really 76k it is very cheap, since it is 2.0L.

Actually just pointing out to limeuu that probably 76k is not the real value. So based on your info, it's more closer to 82k la, makes sense. Forte still has some value

Big operation...

Link: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1490690/+880

...warranty void?

Anyway, I think the most important thing is the HU panel. If you can get the ori one, then you should be able to upgrade to any audio system you want...

(Eh? Epo changed the question sequence??? )

Q1:

Yes, it's normal. I also don't like Auto because it:

(1) switches the fan high (and loud),
(2) often lets outside air in, which usually means exhaust smoke in the city
(3) varies the output vents too much. I prefer to only have the front 4 a/c vents blowing. If I set to Auto, it will gila-gila choose the vents, such as leg vent, the vent near the windscreen, and sometimes switch off the main 4 vents

Regarding Epo's comment, I don't think it will stress the compressor because you can still set the temperature. The Auto only changes the fan speed and vent selection.


Q2:

There's only one light, green, on the left side. The right side is a light sensor to detect whether there's bright headlights behind you and turn on the anti-glare at night. (there's also a sensor behind the mirror, facing the front, that detects whether it's day or night so that the anti-glare won't turn on during daytime...but it sucks sometimes when the sun is right behind you...haha)

You can "manually" turn on the anti-glare in daytime by covering the sensor behind the mirror. If you place the 1/3 dark dark tint on the windscreen it might also cause the anti-glare to turn on at daytime, resulting in "green" images all the time, haha.

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Mar 25 2011, 09:49 AM

Hahaha...I noticed you have a point...when the outside air is hot it might stress it? And when it's blowing harder it's not so cold so it may need to work harder?? Probably it would

I'm not driving FL, the reverse sensor maxes out (beeeeeeeeep) with 40cm to go (for comparison, the Wira is 10cm) ! So what happens frequently now is that I actually have to get out of the car to look. (Ok, ok, my driving skills sucks ) The service guy even gave me a tip: "when your reverse sensor max out, drive 'a bit a bit more'" . Most of the parking outside in Penang is parallel so you need to take all the space that you can....

The Forte butt is actually quite high. Even when the car behind is 2m away from the rear, they look like 30cm away. I had no problem estimating with my no-reverse sensor Iswara, but the Forte butt is just too tall.

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Mar 29 2011, 01:43 PM

Ar...Philips is Japanese???

Oh, probably it wrote "Made in Japan"? Haha...coz they have plants all over the world.

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Added on April 1, 2011, 9:32 amWow, you are good!

Besides reducing Milo tin sound, did it help in things like tyre noise?

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Apr 1 2011, 09:32 AM

Question1:

It's for European market....30km/h is speed limit near schools. 50km/h is speed limit in the city. (I think Malaysia is similar? 40 for schools, 60 for city? But Malaysians never obey it )

I know some people say it's gear shift position, etc. But that is just their guess. It's much simpler, just a speed limit indicator. It's also another reason why it's red...it's a warning (ok la, coincidence Forte theme is also red...haha. But cars like Golf also like that).

Here is a link to the VW Golf speedometer: http://www.whiteandblack.co.nz/wp-content/...lf-r-speedo.jpg

Here's paultan's pic (example for Malaysian version): http://paultan.org/photo/albums/kia-forte-...w/dsc_0567b.jpg
Here's a pic from a USA Forte I think, no red indicators: http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/p/s/1/ag_10forteex_dash.jpg


Question2:

You are referring to the "dot matrix" on the windshield? Not very sure. I suppose it's just to help block some sunlight...like those sheets with many holes that you can stick to your windows.

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Apr 4 2011, 08:50 PM

If it's in D, then it's moving because of the "creep". Definitely consume petrol la....but it's close to the idling petrol consumption, which is very close to zero l/km....haha.

If you're in full stop the consumption goes higher because the speed=0. So if you have something like 0.001L divide by zero km, equals infinity. So could be max I suppose?

These are just technical points about how the system works. I think you should just pay attention to the Instant FC while driving if optimization on FC is what you want.

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Apr 4 2011, 08:58 PM

Haha...I checked it today again. Totally no wiring connected to it.

So my guess is that it's used to block the sun.

Because in the middle portion, the sun visor is unable to block the sun. I know the visor has an 'extension', but if it's opened up it would block the rear mirror's view. Also, I noticed similar things in other cars.

In fact this morning I was driving facing the sun. I had to use the sun visor to block the driver's side. Then I realized that the dot matrix in the middle really helped a lot in blocking the sunlight...didn't interfere with me looking at the rear view mirror. If you don't believe me, drive facing the sun and pay attention to the middle

Another thing is it doesn't cover too much because 1) There's a light sensor on the back of the mirror (cannot block during day time, else 'green' all the time).....2) There may be some regulations on what percentage of the screen can be blocked.

Forte uses Torque converter (typical automatic). It doesn't have a real typical "clutch" so to speak, and uses a different method to transfer power.

Dual clutch is different technology. It's basically a manual transmission that can shift automatically without a clutch you need to step with your left foot (hope not confusing you ). I've never driven one, but what I heard is that since it's basically a manual car, when you put to "D" (or R) the car won't move unless you step on the throttle. The gearbox is "balancing" the clutch like what your left foot used to do with a manual transmission car.

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Added on April 11, 2011, 9:00 amI agree with Underhill...I think you meant "CRAP"

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Apr 11 2011, 09:15 AM

I don't think our ori rims are steel rims. Steel rims are normally thinner because they are heavier (but stronger). They don't really look so nice so they are normally used with wheel covers (like the old 1.6EX).

Normal ori 'sport' rims are alloy rims, but a stronger type I think. A lot of aftermarket alloy rims are lighter.

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Apr 29 2011, 02:12 PM