Blh jadi annoying jgk bro..let say u wanna pick up something in the car, then the car automatically started just because it detects the smart key when u sit in the car. buat bazir minyak & karan bateri saja

By throwing out the money (price different) out of the equation..here are my takes :

- looking for comfortable riding >> SONATA 2.0HS. The SX version of Forte are a bit stiff in suspension tuning. The Sonata also got rear aircond vents for rear passenger comfort

- use for office and occasionally local trip >> I would say equal between both cars but bigger car is better for local trip due to its spaciousness

- safety is must (family man) >> FORTE 2.0SX 6 airbags win hands down, but cannot comment on overall chassis impact performance

- can carry lots stuffs, baby stuffs >> SONATA 2.0HS will have an edge due to its bigger size (D segment car)

At the end of the day..it's your money..your choice

As per suggested..u better wait for Optima then. By that time (September), the Optima should be launched..hopefully. With the current NazaKia car pricing regime, i expect we can get the 2.0HS Optima at somewhere around RM130k

Ironically they love Korean dramas & movies..lol

That's why they did not cucuk me..becoz of the emblem..hehe

l'm getting old already..my fast & furious younger time already passed away. Now just driving defensively though i got 2.0L under the hood. Safe & save approach..hehe

Quoted these test drive review from paultan automotive blog for Chevvy Cruze:

"Lets move on to the drivetrain. The local-spec Cruze is only offered in one variant which is the 1.8 LT, fitted with the 1.8 litre Ecotec engine producing 140hp and 176Nm of torque at 3,800 RPM. The engine features a twin-cam 16-valve configuration with DCVCP (Double Continuous Variable Cam Phasing) and VIS (Variable Intake System). I had a taste of this engine in the Vauxhall Astra Sports Coupe 1.8 SRi, which felt underpowered. Unfortunately I have to say that this is the same case with the Cruze.

The car feels rather heavy with this engine, especially during heavy-footed driving. You would have to make the engine work hard during overtaking or if you are on a rush. The engine is mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission with Shiftronic and to be honest, the transmission does not help improve the driving experience. At times it felt like it was taking it’s own sweet time to plug into the next gear, while the engine revved away aimlessly. Basically gear changes, whether up-shifts or down-shifts were anything but snappy.

Thanks to Naza and their joint venture with Chevrolet, we get the Cruze for RM98,767 OTR without insurance. This as you would probably notice is much cheaper than Japanese cars such as the Toyota Altis, Honda Civic and the Mitsubishi Lancer. It’s most obvious competitor is the Kia Forte 2.0 which comes in at a slightly cheaper price of RM93,800 OTR plus insurance. Apart from the cheaper price tag, the Forte 2.0 offers more power with it’s 154hp/194Nm of torque 2.0 liter engine. In my honest opinion the more potent Forte looks as good and drives slightly better, if not similar.

I must admit that the Cruze has an upper hand in the interior design department. Talking about the interior, the Cruze has 16mm less headroom at the front but 8mm more at the back as well as 26mm less leg room up front having 27mm more at the rear compared to the Forte. However the Cruze loses out in overall headroom by 24mm in front and 20mm at the back. At the end of day the Cruze may be slightly expensive and offer less power compared to it’s Korean competitor but overall it still performs well as a package"


Quite a fair review i must say..so it is up to u to decide now. As for me, with the current specs offered by Forte now + its cheaper price..it's a no brainer

This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 30 2011, 07:58 AM

Forte uses 17" rims & tyres while Cruze uses 16". Wider & low profile tyre (215/45) in the Forte surely will contribute to noisier sound as compared to the 205/60 high profile tyre for the Cruze. i believe, if the Forte uses the 16" rim & tyres with at least 205/55 in profile, tyre noise can be neglected in this comparison.

Autofoam is for chassis stiffening & soundproofing..it does not messing with the car..electronically or mechanically AFAIK. So, it shouldnt void the warranty

This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 30 2011, 12:27 PM

Since that u have stated your preference..just go for it. Dont think too much..every car got its pros & cons anyway

Bro..if u switch on the aircond & no cold air coming out after 20 minutes, please send your car to SC as soon as possible for rectification. & please dont switch your aircond anymore until the problem are solved by the SC. Else, u might run a high risk of damaging your aircond compressor if the problem is due to the refrigerant & compressor oil leakage. In the aircond system, beside the refrigerant, also got compressor oil circulated in the system to lubricate the compressor. If the leakage are big enough, the compressor oil might also sip out from the system & your compressor will run with less or no lubrication at all (risking the damage to the compressor). So it is advisable not to switch on your car aircond until the SC solve that problem.

For service waiting time.. 2hours is for normal service. If u got complaints (ie aircond, rattling sounds or whatsoever), it might take even longer. But most Nazakia SC got free wifi..so please bring your gadgets to spend your time there.

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 3 2011, 05:18 PM

Giving u an idea on how to read the INSTANT bar (L/100km) in plain words:

1) press the accelerator harder, the bar is going up right? The more u press the accelerator, the more fuel are burned thus the INSTANT bar are going up depending on how hard u press it. This one is easy to understand & make sense right?

2) when driving & release the pedal (accelerator), the bar turned to 0. To save fuel to the max, most modern car will cut the fuel flow when u release the pedal at certain speed (say above 50km/h) unless if u put the gear in N position. That's why we get the 0 (meaning uses 0 Liter of fuel/100km of travelling) on INSTANT bar. When the car sense the speed are decreasing to a complete stop, the fuel cut are released to a minimum fuel flow just enough to idle your car if u bring it to a complete stop. That's why u will then see the bar are progressing to a full bar when u are slowing down until the car are not moving anymore. It means that, when the car stopped (idling), u are not gaining any milage (distance) for each liter of fuel burned or in other words, u will need unlimited liter of fuel to reach 100km (hence the full INSTANT bar). Again, make sense right?

Moral of the story..in order to save fuel to the max, please accelerate & decelerate gradually.....& please dont stop..LOL (just joking on the bolded statement). To some extreme effort to save more fuel, can also switch off the engine (i.e. while waiting at the traffic light etc)..but surely u will be baked to perfection under a hot blazing sun..hehe

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 5 2011, 07:28 AM

This one is also China made right? but u said that u didnt want China made HU. Else, i will just shown mine I've posted in this thread several times (V8) since i installed it last year...

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Added on April 5, 2011, 7:34 amYour car is still new..your car's performance & FC will be better when u starting to gain more mileage (say 5k - 10k km)..that one is already proven my many fortezens here.

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 5 2011, 07:34 AM

Yupp..that's correct. It looks simple & neat to my liking. If so happen that the car 'kiss' or hit something, most likely it will not transfer the damage to the bumper also..hopefully

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 5 2011, 02:15 PM

Still hydraulic AFAIK

Yupp..as what KFC said, the car wont lock if the smartkey is inside the car unless the battery is running out or he mod the alarm with 3rd party accessories. By the way, is it autolock or he unintentionally (not aware that he left the smartkey inside the car) locked his car by pressing the outside door button? AFAIK, the car will only autolock in 2 ways :

1) When u start driving your car, the car will autolock as soon as 2nd gear engaged,
2) When u unlock your car (using the smartkey or outside door button) & so happen that u didnt open any of the car's door in about half a minute, it will unlock back automatically (autolock).

Wei bro..aku pun stay & kerja kat KL jgk..tp mileage nak cecah 30k dah. Maybe ko lenjan Forte tu on weekend only kot..not for everyday driving..hehe

Yupp..Pug 308 maintenance cost are even cheaper than other 1.6L Proton cars in 5 years run..not to say the other non-national cars (ie vios, city, civic..etc)

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Added on April 27, 2011, 8:41 amAnyway..u got it at half the price of what the SC charged when replacing the cabin air filter. Where did u bought it bro? Or is it available at the KIA spare part shop? Not sure whether we can easily DIY changing it by ourself to cut short the labour cost if we did it at SC.

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 27 2011, 09:06 AM

No wonder la..showroom (or can i say showoff) car

Maybe the Pug uses Fully Syn ATF which will surely cost more than our Forte that uses Semi Syn ATF (if i'm not mistaken)

Not sure which Fully Syn ATF brand/model are compatible with our ATF as of right now..till then, better stick to the stock ATF.

Since that Pug also under Naza, i personally think that labour charges should be more or less the same like us.

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 27 2011, 10:22 AM