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> WTA - Seller (Me) Being Con by Buyer, Buyer pay using fraud credit card

bruceleestore
post Feb 15 2011, 09:46 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi everyone

Need some opinion - got a customer pay me using a fraud credit card, the 3rd party credit card service provider is holding the payment.

My question are-

i- Where should I report it ? Normal police station or any other specific government department ?

ii- Can I sue the guy for fraud or should I gang up with the 3rd part credit card service provider & sue the fraudster for tying to miss lead ? Should I report to the bank as well ?

I have all the conversation & payment proof in my e-mail, black & white. I have the credit card number & name as well.

iii- After I log the report with government authorities, can I get more info from the telco company & bank about the fraudster so I can proceed with suing asap?


Some wise comment/s will be very much appreciated. Please do not spam.


Thank you
mfitri77
post Feb 15 2011, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(bruceleestore @ Feb 15 2011, 09:46 PM)
Hi everyone

Need some opinion - got a customer pay me using a fraud credit card, the 3rd party credit card service provider is holding the payment.

My question are-

i- Where should I report it ? Normal police station or any other specific government department ?

ii- Can I sue the guy for fraud or should I gang up with the 3rd part credit card service provider & sue the fraudster for tying to miss lead ? Should I report to the bank as well ?

I have all the conversation & payment proof in my e-mail, black & white. I have the credit card number & name as well.

iii- After I log the report with government authorities, can I get more info from the telco company & bank about the fraudster so I can proceed with suing asap?
Some wise comment/s will be very much appreciated. Please do not spam.
Thank you
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In a case where the card holder reports a transaction as beiung fraudulent, the service provider will hold the money and ask the retailer (in this case, you) to provide proof of buying, which is the transaction slip. As long as the signature of the card holder matches the transaction slip, then the provider would release the fund.

If it doesn't, you are done. The agreement between you and the card provider is spesific regarding fraud - the onus is always on the seller. That's why when I was with someone before my government days, we always are double, if not triple carefull when people are paying with credit card, and are suspicious in their action.

1. Reporting is to the police department. This is under the penal code, section what I forgot.

2. You actually know the guy? Even then, no, the card service provider will not really join you in suing the fraudster. Using a fraud credit card is a crime, and not a civil matter. Since its a fraud matter, how sure are you you have the right person.

3. Fraud? Not really. The only way info is going to be released is a police report, even then, don't think it would be to you.


ndgoh
post Feb 19 2011, 01:56 PM

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The bank must honour the credit card if you can proof you are conducting bona fide (in good faith) sales. Compile all the documentation proof, lodge a police report, attached the photocopy of the report and your supporting docs to the bank.

If the bank do not honour bona fide transactions, credit card company will collapse coz who else want to accept credit card?

Btw, how do you know its a fraud case?
bruceleestore
post Feb 19 2011, 02:03 PM

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The credit card transaction has been denied by the bank.

The bank has verified that the credit card is a fake card so the amount would not be clear to me.

I am preparing all the relevant documents & paperwork, going to Bukit Aman cybercrime unit to log report tomorrow

I have the IP address & other details, will be hiring PI to find the guy

The 3rd party company & bank mention that is my risk - I should have get the IC photocopy & credit card copy for every transaction

So its seller risk if they use online credit card payment gateway
ndgoh
post Feb 19 2011, 06:42 PM

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Hmmm... I guess your online payment must have the condition of "upon clearance of payment"

I think your goods is as good as gone...

 

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