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post Dec 4 2011, 11:51 PM

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Anyone with AP set here? Care to share which country is your unit and what's in the package?

What about Authorised set user? Care to share what's in the package? It comes with car charger right? What else?
And the authorised set is from which country?
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post Dec 5 2011, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(awan_kelabu @ Dec 5 2011, 03:22 PM)
i don't think iDefense's the problem, maybe i applied it wrongly. and in a berhabuk environment also.

should've asked somebody else to do it for meĀ  sweat.gif


Added on December 5, 2011, 3:31 pm

mine's AP set.

err how to check from which country?

if not mistaken, no car charger. only usb charger with socket adapter.
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AP Set also have the same thing? Cause I check from dealer in lowyat, he say local/authorised set have extra freebies. AP set and Authorised set has more than RM200 difference currently (previous RM300++ difference; drop over RM100 in about 1 week); Or wait longer for the price to stabilize.

I think you can check from the packaging or any sticker, but maybe can only check where it's made. One of the dealer I found mentioned their set is SG set, but other dealer said depend on the stock when they collect, can be euro, or other countries.


Added on December 5, 2011, 4:20 pmBtw, seems SE Android users are less active here compared to other Android devices? Any ideas?

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QUOTE(VictorKeong @ Dec 6 2011, 03:24 PM)
ya they gave me 2 -,-
1 for chrging 1 for connecting to com.. but i see both are same wire ==" EC600L==


Added on December 6, 2011, 3:26 pm

comes wif free screen protector.. but i dint use it =="
erm comes wif 8gb, cd , book, warranty, chrger ,car chrger, 2 usb cables(not sure) xD , erm the phone in a beg, earphones XD , a bag of ear plugs, erm battery


Added on December 6, 2011, 3:27 pm

usb pluck head ba.. can connect to car, then u use ur usb cable put in connect to phone ~ tada bcome car chrger lol
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Thanks for the information; This month got Christmas promotion (LYN Front page)... can consider get authorised unit and price will be revised.
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 6 2011, 05:16 PM)
I know mine is HK set. Because that time only Taiwan/HK/CN had the Neo on sale. Not even SG/rest of the world.

I also off my timescape. Using stock UI anyway.

One thing I like about the SE way is how they organize the messages. I can easily read all previous messages from the same person. No need to dig and dig and dig.

IMHO SE less active because less ppl use them. Not like Samsung.

Now one signboard fall down will hit half of iphone user, 30% samsung, 10% HTC and the rest is the other 10%  tongue.gif
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Thanks. I like SE UI/Layout as well and their phone design is also more unique and nice than the rest. thumbup.gif

I think mainly due the the hardware specs and offerings, if not I think more people would prefer SE? As I know, in the past, most people prefer SE, but probably it's fallen behind in terms of the specs and so on. It's catching up, hope to see brighter future. after all, it's one of the company which makes nice handphones.

QUOTE(pikacu @ Dec 7 2011, 12:37 AM)
Yes, SE android user kinda not as active as Samsung android, not sure why, trend maybe.., and maybe custom rom modder not interested on SE cheapo internal storage vs price laugh.gif

If i were you, I'll buy the ori set. the car charger + usb cable + hdmicable + free SP (it follows SEXpro shape).

But I already own AP set before ori set arrives Malaysia sweat.gif

oh ya, welcome Andy tongue.gif
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I think maybe also the specs, up to date, still no dual core for SE and the internal storage also fall short. The design is there, the UI/Layout is nice, and they've catch up on the OS updates. Maybe next year things will slowly change better, but there'll be no more "ericsson".

Yup, prefer the Ori set as well, just that the price diferences is a lot; but the Christmas promo + revised price is worth it, kinda of set back the price against AP set.


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QUOTE(adz83 @ Dec 7 2011, 07:04 PM)
i prefer if they give MW600.  tongue.gif
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post Dec 8 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(razorblade00 @ Dec 8 2011, 01:46 PM)
if the phone will lag if we play hd games???coz it only 1ghz..
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Depends on the game; it also depends on the GPU.

My understanding:
Games can be optimize for certain hardware, but for Android, too many different hardware, they may not provide for all.
If you see Sony PSP, it's running at 233 Mhz; but PSP is standard hardware, they basically just need to optimize for one similar hardware.

So, it doesn't mean you have 1.5Ghz or dual core, you sure can run any games smoothly. If optimize, maybe it only required very low spec to run smoothly... Just like emulator, you may find as they update newer version, it can emulate the games smoother and better, even you're using the same hardware.


QUOTE(FatalitY @ Dec 8 2011, 03:32 PM)
True also...i turn my data sync on only when I have wifi and when my phone bat is ready to be recharged. Anyhow, my coating is pretty good...but here's the aching part. Someone carried me upside down and my phone fell onto cement and stones. Aih...I am totally off mood from all of that. My phone casing is deeply scratched and its a permanent scar there and the chrome work as well. Its just a total heartache....=(
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What? WWF?
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post Dec 9 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Dec 9 2011, 03:33 PM)
i think SEX Pro will get a casings sooner or later, just the question of time. probably slower cuz not many using it comparing to iphone4 and Galaxy sII.Ā  sweat.gif
a lot of people still didn't know the value and capabilities of this phone.Ā  flex.gif
i strongly support this!!!Ā  thumbup.gif

Still considering AP or Ori set with the Promo.Ā  hmm.gif
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Many people don't appreciate using/having the qwerty keyboard in Malaysia....

AP set can get RM950
Ori set, Promo should be RM1299 + Free VH-410 bluetooth... BUT... BUT... I check with few outlets, they have no IDEA about this promo despite it's starting TOMORROW, and their price is STILL RM1399.... What's worst... I call Sony Ericsson support, they also not sure only know which location will have (e.g. Sunway Pyramid), but ask them Pyramid got Sony Centre and Sony Ericsson store, which one, they also not sure?.... Instead of them checking and passing information, ended up Customer making calls here and there to check for them and confirm with them... in the end... they say HQ "NOT YET DECIDE"? But tomorrow starts wor...

How come so poor communication... The leftlet promo is printed in November, but seems most of the store didn't know about it. Maybe only lowyat store will know? Looking at the level of service, kind of worrying...
They did the nice leaflet, but seems the store/outlet is not well informed, it's not going to help them and it'll just hurt their reputation.

Makes me feel disappointed and maybe should just get AP and save over RM200++

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Dec 15 2011, 03:12 PM)
Meh....a quick and silly question, my PRO is original with Thorus sticker, but i dont have the warranty card when I opened the box, as according to the seller, register online for it. Where????

And also, its still so difficult to get accessories for the phone!!! Arrrggh!!! idefence at Times Square not even opened lor, it seems like their office still under construction
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Get from tan alliance directly better I think, good service. He's the supplier.

QUOTE(FatalitY @ Dec 15 2011, 03:38 PM)
Hmm...im starting to get worried about my warranty card if its not there, means I kena cheated edi lor. But I do have the Thorus sticker as proof its ori. =( I bought it from a dealer's shop, not the sony erricson shop though. Do u think the sticker is enough to proof? I have the receipt still though
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I think that's not important cause they should have the IMEI data in their system. Warranty card is just a card, plus the dealer needs to register your device to activate the warranty, so they should have it in their system. If the dealer didn't do that, then they'll need the receipt instead cause warranty card, some people can fake the date (some dealer leave the date empty).

The main point is, is your unit authorised unit by Sony Ericsson Malaysia; Asking for warranty card is when they want to find trouble and make your process harder.

Anyway, I'm officially a new Xperia Pro owner, and first time Android user, lots of things to pick-up sweat.gif
Transferring contacts is a headache, SMS is another headache part. After sync with social networks, so many duplicate contacts. sweat.gif

Overall, it's very nice experience, but I got myself AP set after disappointed with the service and going through calls between HQ and each retail outlet. I become more like their staff trying to find out and passing information to each outlet... give up and settled for AP set, was told it will be SG set, but seems the unit I got is TW set, and there's no HDMI cable. sweat.gif

Hm... Anybody know how to sort the contacts? (e.g. First Name, Last Name, or NickName? Or View Contacts As?)
and how to set a specific number as primary number (for those who have more than one number).
My colleague's HTC have all these options.


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post Dec 15 2011, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Dec 15 2011, 04:35 PM)
How to know if my phone is an authorized unit by SEM? I only have the thorus sticker on the battery and also another 1 which is embossed with SE logo and also the small round embossed SE sticker. Hmmm. Its also my first android phone and Im loving it. Its like how i like to tweak here and there to maximize my phone's usage without compromising much of my battery life. Oh...duplicate contact? Just hold on to the contact and it will pop up a side bar and choose the merge/combine contact. =) It happened to me too.

About your queries, I have not tried that yet, and its quite a hassle to dial a number while you're on the road as well. Yours no HDMI, mine is also the same, even better, no car charger. I think the shop is just ripping me off.
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If you buy from authorised centre should be authorised unit; else I think you can call up SEM or their service centre and confirm your IMEI.

Yea, I can join, but I've got so many contacts, lol. Actually not really as much as those people who have hundreds/thousands over contacts in FB, but still a lot of work to join/merge one by one; My previous smartphone there's a contacts merger app, which intelligently merge for you, and those that in doubt, it will show up in the next screen for you to confirm or change the selection, it can match by contact, name, email, etc.
Not sure Android have, but I think there should have but not sure which is good cause the thing with many apps is, you don't know which to choose, hahaha tongue.gif

I use to send sms to groups of people, if we can group contacts and send sms to groups will be good. If there's 2 number for a particular contact, normally it'll prompt which number to send, so if there is primary contact will be great addition.

Authorised set supposed to come with full set, unless they took away yours.
The seller free me a 3rd party car charger, which I don't keen on using (have bad experience before). Since it's micro USB port, my previous phone original charger can also be used.

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 15 2011, 05:32 PM)
may i ask just 1 stupid question? any xperia pro owners here bought an AP set which somehow isn't working 100% like an authorized set?

*i am an AP set owner of x10 mini pro and this AP set serious gave me several headaches..so i wanna clarify if getting AP for xperia pro doesnt gave me any issues after this~
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It's the same thing. AP set means authorised set in other country. All is original, just difference is where the unit is from.

One advantage of getting AP is if you can get a good country set, e.g. those that receive first update (and good built quality). e.g. HTC Incredible, Malaysia set no latest update yet, but some countries already have. So even you got authorised set, still need to wait.

AP set what you need to worry is probably the seller change the accessories or battery, or take away / reduce some accessories, etc. And if there is units which made in different country, then you might wanna get a better unit.
Oh, for Pro, with qwerty keyboard, for HK/TW/CN set, the keyboard got Chinese wording.
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post Dec 16 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Dec 15 2011, 11:33 PM)
last week got sweat.gif


Added on December 15, 2011, 11:36 pm
I believe mine is HK/TW/CN set, but no chinese wording..?
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Mine I think is TW set. The Quick User Guide is in Chinese sweat.gif
The phone startup in Chinese... have to switch language, lucky is easy cause I'm "banana" (but not in pajamas)

It also comes pre-installed with few Chinese App, including the Chinese Social Network apps, which my colleague help to "translate".

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 16 2011, 01:45 PM)
Andy214
yaya, i notice about the chinese wording on the keyboard as well. i checked my AP set unit (x10 mini pro) by refering to the manual inside the box. considering AP sets, for Pro, which country is consider a bit advanced than Msia?

*my x10 mini pro was AP from Sweden and definitely behind Msia...causing baseband issues to me when flashing roms...wtf.

oh, i got an offer for AP Pro rm990 and 2 years warranty. stil haven get to know more about the warranty yet. good grab or not?
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I'm not sure which country more advance, need to check which country always get the latest updates. My HTC colleague asked me to get authorised set, but recently HTC Incredible got new update, but not for Malaysia, so now he's in between, haha. For me, surely would prefer authorised, but the price difference is a lot... and actually I also wanted to get authorised set with the christmas promotion, but their "service" level really make me disappointed. Finally get AP, save more than RM300, which I bought Class 10 32GB micro SD, and still have extra RM100 to spare for the iDefense Pro.

The warranty for AP does not cover LCD, and for accessory only for few months. The device got longer warranty, but rarely have issue. If have issue, it may take much longer time.
You can get for below RM950 here in lowyat forum or lelong.com.my, check GNex store.
Authorised also around RM1200 (but better buy from authorised (SEM) set with FREE VH-410 worth RM159, can sell for RM100?)

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Dec 16 2011, 03:42 PM)
Omg...the price really dropped that bad huh? I juz came bck from checking and its confirmed ori phone...ah the relief
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Then it should have all the accessories. Go and request; If the shop doesn't want to give, call up SME.


QUOTE(adz83 @ Dec 16 2011, 03:53 PM)
Bluetooth is just for promo. But ori car charger is included in the package, right? Better ask back at the shop.
AP price need to compete with the christmas promo perhaps. Good la, u guys got good deal. thumbup.gif
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Yes, everything is included. During my checking, at first all the shops have no idea about this promo, end up I become middle person and check for them and communicate between the HQ and the shops. After some of the shop confirm have the sale, they also not sure got free bluetooth, when asked and said got, then they say "maybe" the other accessories will not be provided.... doh.gif
Seems they don't even know or have the leaflet, and it's already the promo day, end up force them to check with the HQ again and confirm everything got... such poor service.

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 17 2011, 01:15 AM)
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SEM ori Pro rm1200 with freebies?? i went there last month in Jusco Cheras selatan. they say was rm14xx that time, jatuh so fast ar?? i asked dynamic was rm1288 in lowyat so i was like wtf SEM with those rm200??

i never wanna get it near cny as my friend said before to me, price hike during season holidays. now thinking whether wanna wait or grab.
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SEM Ori Pro if buy from dealer (e.g. lowyat seller) is around RM1200 comes with standard SEM packaging (e.g. car charger, screen protector, etc.)
For the Xmas Promo which comes with free bluetooth headset, only participating outlets have, and the price is fix RM1299 (according to brochure/leaflet).

If buy from dealer or some shops, possible to nego more, but if can buy from SE Centres at RM1299 with free bluetooth worth RM159, so I think more worth to buy from SE Centres.
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QUOTE(VictorKeong @ Dec 19 2011, 09:42 AM)
u buy now or buy later does not matter
ur in a modern world XD
price drops. have to live wif it
the main questions are

1) Do u want it
2) do u really need it
3) WHEN u want it

wif promo just more freebies smile.gif
by next year u can see Pro sure 800
Neo mybe 500
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I think you quote the wrong person, the message may not be passed on to the person. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(adz83 @ Dec 20 2011, 09:17 PM)
Bro, if i wanna sell the bluetooth headset. How much is the appropriate price? Since i'm not using it and only sitting in box. sweat.gif
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Not more than RM100? RRP is always very expensive, or buy from Sony or SE Centre.
You can check other online seller selling how much, and match their price else you can hardly sell it unless you find customer who are not active in forum or web, e.g. those that buy from Sony or SE Centre or buy at RRP price.

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 21 2011, 01:44 AM)
just for thought.

regarding AP and Authorized sets for Xperia Pro.
- considering authorized sets are 1299 with rm159 bt along, minus the rm159, u get 1140. however, i doubt there is no in-car charger socket for AP packages, so it is another 40 (since authorized sets comes with genuine in-car chargers which are quite expensive). so the total for just the unit and box with standard package is around rm1100.

- comparing AP 950 with 1100 authorized units, which 1 will u choose? and why?

i seriously need some unbiased opinions for xperia Pro as it is a near rm1k or more handphone (unlike my x10i mini pro which is just rm6xx when i bought it), AND CHRISTMAS PROMO IS ENDING IN 4 MORE DAYS!!!!

brainstorm me please.
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AP does not have HDMI cable also, so that's more value for Authorised set.

I will prefer authorised, although I get AP, but that's because of the disappointment with the service and feedback receive when I trying to deal and check with them. For others, I will still suggest Authorised set.
Just that sometimes, when you experience some bad/poor service, you will feel indifferent.
I got AP and the additional money I got a 32GB class 10 microSD and still have extra RM100 to spare for iDefense Pro.
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Can anybody share their available RAM and details?

Go to SETTINGS->APPLICATIONS->RUNNING SERVICES
See the bottom RAM
Can share your:
X used and X free?
Mine is around 190MB++ used and around 30MB++ free

Is this the RAM, how come it's not 512MB in total? Is it 200MB++ reserved for OS?

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QUOTE(VictorKeong @ Dec 21 2011, 03:10 PM)
LOL??
haha
mine only
141 used, 164 free
i use task manager control my Ram usage
try dl from app stall
i also dl new widget.. RAM meter biggrin.gif
regarding the 200mb ram thingy. not sure hmm.gif
in gsmarena stated "1 GB (320 MB user available), 512 MB RAM".. dint say bout ram ><
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512MB supposed to the be RAM. I check my friend's Incredible S, his device RAM should be about 768MB, but the total RAM available in the "RUNNING" tab doesn't seem to sum up as well. Wondering is it reserved for OS so didn't display.

The 320MB user available should me the storage space for user; Not really sure about Android, there should be allocated space for apps and such, and finally the remaining for user's files.


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Can we upload photo into Facebook Albums?
I think I remember seeing this option somewhere when I first explore the phone, but now I can't seem to find this option or feature?

Is it because of the new updates? Because since I bought, there's update for Pro as well as FB App.

And the Google+ widget seems missing? I think after update or something.

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Dec 22 2011, 01:13 AM)
Yes, for two version back.

New update broke that it seems sweat.gif
Red / Silver better due to smudge-friendly-magnet glossy finishing doh.gif
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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Dec 22 2011, 09:12 AM)
I tot every PRO comes with McAfee? Mine is 1 year licence. But after this 1 year I'll probably get ESET in. Low ram usage and full defence on, hopefully can get it in my mobile. XD
Get the task manager app. Its useful. I have like 171mb available and 335mb total. some 185mb is used for OS.
I think the price drop cuz of promo and demand too low. Many people seem to not know the good part of PRO. If ure really those who likes convenience at a nice price and with the quick keyboard and good camera, PRO it is.
Then could sell for 100 lor, but if u wanna try risk, go for auction bidding. Lul~ Self reboot??? That's odd lor.
My update still can....but its under mobile upload lor. It auto compresses ur picture I believe to maybe 10% of its total size. But so far I see the quality is not compromised.
Silver or black...I heard silver quite rare, but its awesome...mine's black and no gloss peeled so far. But...but...the scar remains...T_____T
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Update to mobile upload folder is default. Would want to upload to different albums, create albums. They should also implement size or quality to upload.

For free Anti-Virus can try AVG.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 22 2011, 04:02 PM)
Just booked a Silver PRO~ Lalalalalalalalal~
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Silver? I thought you were choosing between RED or BLACK tongue.gif

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