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TSeleongo
post Feb 14 2011, 03:25 PM, updated 13y ago

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as title mentioned

1) i know that djmax technika is in genting, other than that where else?
2) does anyone know where can i find any beatmania arcade, if possible give me a nearby location please, i'm living in sri sentosa, KL


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Added on February 14, 2011, 4:13 pmok......how to delete this topic?
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i shouldn't post it in gamer's hideout, right?

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post Feb 14 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(eleongo @ Feb 14 2011, 03:25 PM)
as title mentioned

1) i know that djmax technika is in genting, other than that where else?
2) does anyone know where can i find any beatmania arcade, if possible give me a nearby location please, i'm living in sri sentosa, KL


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Added on February 14, 2011, 4:13 pmok......how to delete this topic?
looks like i ask a question at wrong forum
i shouldn't post it in gamer's hideout, right?
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Number 1 : AFAIK, DJMax Technika is only available in Genting.

Number 2 : I have only seen Beatmania 2nd Mix (I think) in Times Square. Besides that, there are no other Bemani games in Malaysia. You will have to make do with Rock Fever and EZ2DJ. (I personally think they suck)

Number 3 : There is no arcade subforum in lolwut.net so you might as well post it here.
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post Feb 14 2011, 04:55 PM

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>Ez2dj
>Suck
What?

Anyways, there's supposedly a IIDX 14 GOLD machine rumored to be in Malacca. But I have no idea if it's still there or if the story is even true in the first place. Since I've heard it years ago. Your best chance is still to head over to Singapore if you're looking for Bemani games.
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post Feb 14 2011, 04:57 PM

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nvm the beatmania, i google-ed the ez2dj, and it looks similar to beatmania.
i also tried rock fever in awana (RM1 per game lol), but not as exciting as others

ok so....
1) where can i find ez2dj?
2) do you agree that many malaysians are not "fancy" on music games, but other games like action games, FPS games?

these will be my final questions
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post Feb 14 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Feb 14 2011, 04:55 PM)
>Ez2dj
>Suck
What?

Anyways, there's supposedly a IIDX 14 GOLD machine rumored to be in Malacca. But I have no idea if it's still there or if the story is even true in the first place. Since I've heard it years ago. Your best chance is still to head over to Singapore if you're looking for Bemani games.
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Bemani whore. Don't ask, don't tell.

QUOTE(eleongo @ Feb 14 2011, 04:57 PM)
nvm the beatmania, i google-ed the ez2dj, and it looks similar to beatmania.
i also tried rock fever in awana (RM1 per game lol), but not as exciting as others

ok so....
1) where can i find ez2dj?
2) do you agree that many malaysians are not "fancy" on music games, but other games like action games, FPS games?

these will be my final questions
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1) I'm not sure.

2) Now this is an interesting question. I'm a Malaysian, and I am a huge fan of Jubeat and Reflec Beat (google them up if you don't know it). I think its not a matter of Malaysians not interested in music games because I pretty sure o2jam is quite popular in its heydays. Guitar Hero/Rock Band also do pretty damn well among the crowd. However, if you are asking about Rhythm Arcade Games, then Malaysians aren't exposed enough in that genre.
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post Feb 14 2011, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Feb 14 2011, 05:01 PM)
Bemani whore. Don't ask, don't tell.
1) I'm not sure.

2) Now this is an interesting question. I'm a Malaysian, and I am a huge fan of Jubeat and Reflec Beat (google them up if you don't know it). I think its not a matter of Malaysians not interested in music games because I pretty sure o2jam is quite popular in its heydays. Guitar Hero/Rock Band also do pretty damn well among the crowd. However, if you are asking about Rhythm Arcade Games, then Malaysians aren't exposed enough in that genre.
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aiks.....i forgot the term "rhythm arcade game"
and =.=" they prefer rock songs

i saw jubeat in genting and melacca, but i didn't happen to try arghhhh


Added on February 14, 2011, 5:15 pmarrrr.......i've gone crazy on music games

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post Feb 14 2011, 05:35 PM

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Ez2dj 6th Trax is still available in Times Square.

There used to be a Popn Music 14 Fever in Times Square as well, but they said it got moved to Genting.

Plenty of people are playing the Emagic China Jubeat knockoff, it's not that they are not willing or exposed in these kinds of game. Jubeat and Reflec beat is easy to get into because of the interface, it's just that the bosses of the arcades refuses to throw in the money for newer cabs.
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post Feb 14 2011, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Feb 14 2011, 05:35 PM)
Ez2dj 6th Trax is still available in Times Square.

There used to be a Popn Music 14 Fever in Times Square as well, but they said it got moved to Genting.

Plenty of people are playing the Emagic China Jubeat knockoff, it's not that they are not willing or exposed in these kinds of game. Jubeat and Reflec beat is easy to get into because of the interface, it's just that the bosses of the arcades refuses to throw in the money for newer cabs.
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=.=" they keep their money for themselves? lol
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QUOTE(eleongo @ Feb 14 2011, 07:29 PM)
=.=" they keep their money for themselves? lol
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Put it this way.

Bemani games aren't cheap.
Reflec Beat uses a touchscreen. Jubeat's controls are the screen itself. Guitarfreaks and Drummania comes with their own peripheral. Beatmania IIDX comes with a turntable and 7 buttons.
Malaysians handling the machines....yeah...its a scary thought.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Feb 14 2011, 08:14 PM)
Put it this way.

Bemani games aren't cheap.
Reflec Beat uses a touchscreen. Jubeat's controls are the screen itself. Guitarfreaks and Drummania comes with their own peripheral. Beatmania IIDX comes with a turntable and 7 buttons.
Malaysians handling the machines....yeah...its a scary thought.
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ya.....some malaysians play rough (can be consider as vandalism), and of course arcade machines from japan are very expensive

i didn't say that all operators have to spend money to buy those things, but sometimes they have to consider, so that the public can enjoy themselves, at the same time public also have to behave themselves by not playing rough and cause the machine to be vandalize/malfunction (such as buttons loose or insensitive), so that the operators will be willing to spends money on purchasing arcade machines


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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Feb 14 2011, 04:55 PM)
>Ez2dj
>Suck
What?

Anyways, there's supposedly a IIDX 14 GOLD machine rumored to be in Malacca. But I have no idea if it's still there or if the story is even true in the first place. Since I've heard it years ago. Your best chance is still to head over to Singapore if you're looking for Bemani games.
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=.= why singapore? because singapore is more popular than malaysia, or more otaku than malaysia? lol

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post Feb 15 2011, 12:07 AM

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Because in Singapore, arcades are held in a different light. It's an amusement area where people go to play games.

In Malaysia, the view on arcades is that truants, drug dealers and gangsters go to these places, and they're worse than Cybercafes.

Hence the amount of customers arcades in Msia and Singapore getting is different. Thus the operators are unwilling to take risks to import something that costs almost a hundred k each. Because they might potentially take a long while before the machine pays for itself and a profit shows.

Imagine. A 2nd hand Technika 2 unit is 17k USD. A new one should prolly be in the 22k range before bulk discounts. That's before shipping. A Technika 2 machine with shipping to Malaysia would prolly cost above 80 thousand ringgit. Even when priced at 2 ringgit per game in KL, it would take 40 thousand games. Each game takes about 7 minutes, that's 195 days worth of NONSTOP gaming on the machine, before calculating overhead and maintainence. It's simply too risky. So they go for cheaper alternatives.

An IIDX machine is about 70k before shipping btw. Before accounting for the latest HDD updates and internet service charges.

Singapore is having an advantage solely because their currency is bigger, and their tax for importing machines is lower too.
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post Feb 15 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Feb 15 2011, 12:07 AM)
Because in Singapore, arcades are held in a different light. It's an amusement area where people go to play games.

In Malaysia, the view on arcades is that truants, drug dealers and gangsters go to these places, and they're worse than Cybercafes.

Hence the amount of customers arcades in Msia and Singapore getting is different. Thus the operators are unwilling to take risks to import something that costs almost a hundred k each. Because they might potentially take a long while before the machine pays for itself and a profit shows.

Imagine. A 2nd hand Technika 2 unit is 17k USD. A new one should prolly be in the 22k range before bulk discounts. That's before shipping. A Technika 2 machine with shipping to Malaysia would prolly cost above 80 thousand ringgit. Even when priced at 2 ringgit per game in KL, it would take 40 thousand games. Each game takes about 7 minutes, that's 195 days worth of NONSTOP gaming on the machine, before calculating overhead and maintainence. It's simply too risky. So they go for cheaper alternatives.

An IIDX machine is about 70k before shipping btw. Before accounting for the latest HDD updates and internet service charges.

Singapore is having an advantage solely because their currency is bigger, and their tax for importing machines is lower too.
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=.= they don't need to rush catching up the other countries, but at least ship in djmax technika 1st version since this 1 you mentioned is the cheapest (well, don't need to say it, as it's already in genting)

and those good-for-nothing-hang-outers had embarrassed malaysia, amusement park is suppose to be an entertaining place for everybody, not a hideout for those buggers

that makes me wonder if the government decides to continue the plan about banning arcades as mentioned around 10 years ago
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Technika 1 isn't exactly cheap. Technika 2 is running on the same hardware, it's practically just a software and network upgrade.
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WTB beatmania iidx 18th ;_;
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post Feb 15 2011, 02:33 PM

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Bank in to me 90 thousand ringgit malaysia and I'll help you order one. tongue.gif I'll bear the remaining difference (Yes, 90k isn't enough to buy an IIDX machine.). IINM shipping is 14k minimum. XD
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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Feb 15 2011, 02:33 PM)
Bank in to me 90 thousand ringgit malaysia and I'll help you order one. tongue.gif I'll bear the remaining difference (Yes, 90k isn't enough to buy an IIDX machine.). IINM shipping is 14k minimum. XD
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=.= since when your bank has that much money, mine usually max only around 15k+
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Or if you can find a HK arcade that's letting go of IIDX, I'm pretty sure you can get it sub 80k with shipping. Not sure about taxes though.

My bank account haven't exceeded a thousand in 2 years. My monthly income is about 1k for now, I'm a college student and a part time teacher. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Feb 16 2011, 10:33 AM)
Or if you can find a HK arcade that's letting go of IIDX, I'm pretty sure you can get it sub 80k with shipping. Not sure about taxes though.

My bank account haven't exceeded a thousand in 2 years. My monthly income is about 1k for now, I'm a college student and a part time teacher. biggrin.gif
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=.=" i just graduated from secondary school and waiting for SPM results, then only go to college (unless i fail malay, but that's mostly not possible to fail LOL), and i still don't have any part-time job yet, also i'm lack of communication skill......
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I'm lazy to edit my post, so here it is.

I've seemed to have put in an extra 1 in front of the Technika machine's price.

The actual price is around 8,000.00 USD before taxes or shipping.

IIDX machines are around 14,000.00 USD before taxes or shipping. Not including Harddisks costing about 2-3k USD for the latest installment. Or any other hardware upgrades (For example, there will be a hardware upgrade needed for an IIDX5th to IIDX6th, IIDX10th to IIDX RED). I'm not sure about whether an upgrade is needed for Empress to Sirius as they changed the coding, but not the hardware running it.

Pop'n Music machines are around 6,500.00 USD before taxes or shipping. This obviously excludes hardware upgrades that is almost ensured to happen every 3 installments.

Jubeat machines are 9,000.00 USD before taxes or shipping. This doesn't include the prices of the newer content like Knit/Append.

I'm not sure about Reflec beat though.
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post Feb 18 2011, 06:23 PM

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i've done a little research, and based on this website --> http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/mach...dance_machines/

beatmania is currently the most expensive rhythm music arcade game, and the most expensive beatmania arcade machine isBeatmania IIDX 16th Empress (whether is this currently the latest version of beatmania or not, i don't know)

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