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Investment THE ARC@CYBERJAYA [OWNERS' THREAD], Developer of Cova KD goes BIG

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spydermind
post Nov 3 2011, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(jacobcheong @ Nov 3 2011, 03:55 PM)
i too have doubts on the developer and their projects.

sorry sidetrack to another of andaman's property called the Academia at south city mall in sri kembangan.

my brother booked a unit in block A and his loan was rejected by Affin bank.
He also tried to apply to many other banks but they denied his application. Why?
I'm not sure but some SAs say its because they have no confidence in the developer. True?

Thinking about it, what happens after the 3+3+4 years of GRR? The property will be returned to us and then it becomes our responsibilty to find our own tenants?
How sure are we that ppl will want to rent the place?

And if we want to sell it in the 3rd yr (for e.g.), will it be attractive enough for ppl to purchase? since theres only 3+4 yrs left of GRR? wil ppl even want to buy it at all?

How about the resale value? Ok, im sure it will increase by ~ 20-30% after completion but just afraid it will become stagnant after that.
Casa subang in USJ (also by andaman) seems to have its price in stagnation albeit the buzyness of the area surrounding it. No significant difference in price last yr and this yr. (sorry, no info on price 2-3 yrs back as i only remember last yr's bcos i was searching for a good property to buy). Just saying.

The property only sounds attractive in the beginning but what about it being a good property for long term investment?

anyway these are just my opinions . Would like to hear yours if u can input.
thanks

Lifehouse
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YOu have to check the credit rating of your brother. If those banks are panel bank, they would have already evaluated and approved the project. So in that case, it will not be the bank having no confidence in the project...

Most of the property also need you to find the tenant yourself (or indirectly via agent).....it is just that this one at least guarantee rental for a few years.

YOu are very sure the price will increase upon complete but afraid it will become stagnant ? I dont know your concern actually....that is part of the risk right in any investment....if you dont think it increase after that, then sell it off after that....simple.

all the while it has been very common to have moderate price increase especially for condo.....slow increase.....but it is just that the past 2 years had been very phenomenal....so, dont expect everyday is sunday....


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post Dec 30 2011, 07:45 AM

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[quote=darthvest,Dec 29 2011, 06:20 PM]
[quote=cova,Dec 29 2011, 05:11 PM]
Do you know that for every Andaman projects, they will register a RM2 company to handle the project. The registered companies only used nominees(young man and young chics) as company's director and share holders.
You can do a company search and you will be shocked!

Wow...that is really a shock. How could they do that? I mean we are talking about 2-3 digits million project here. This sort of developer must be held accountable for their integrity and responsibility.
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A lot big developers are doing that to a certain extend (one for several small project, one of 1 big project, 1 for each project, etc).....for tax and finance reason....but what i dislike most is that they will advertsied and leverage reference with the mother company....but the entity that we sign S&P will be a new one or a temp one (once project completion, they will close down the company).

So, remember to keep all the marketing material, brochures that show the involvement of the mother company.....you might need them eventually ...
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post Jan 4 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(cova @ Jan 4 2012, 10:41 AM)
Appreciation only
Forget about Cova Villa and Casa subang, prices appreciated a little and not suitable for family staying, purely for students due to the GRS.
Cova Suites ok, good appreciation will happen only after the 3 years free maintenance end this year.

Rental
Remember! for save, the rental of a condo unit must not be less than 6% of your property value.
For example:  400000 x 6%  = 24000 (yearly yield)
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That's really depends on a few things, firstly, gross yield or net yield ? Secondly, the market price for the rental? SOmetimes, we might want 6-8% but, if the market price for rental cna only provide 5%, i guess you will have to decide if to sell it off or not.

Lastly, if property price increases every year, the rental might not follow the same increment rate as it will be very much depending market demand.......

In my personal opinion, the yield of proeprty would become lower subsequently (overall).....
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:03 AM

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"who will stay in this town?"

I dont dare to say that if I were you....

Years ago, people questioning why invest in Shah Alam? No entertainment license given, minimal dog licence, lack of food, etc.....well....is this still the same case today??

How about puchong? I heard so many people saying, who want to move to puchong? So jammed up, security is not good, etc.

Many many more example.....maybe many of us will not move a particular or several location....but there are enough people willing or wanting to move to those location for personal reason.

When cyberjaya started, people questioned who want to work at that location? Yes, you might be right, but , there are many willing to work there as of today.....

Only time will tells....by the way, many location or development take years to get populated or for people to move in.......so, pls dont expect cyberjaya to be immediately filled up right after all the current launches being VPed.

Fren, MK is the same despite many like to live there, is it pretty empty on on several condo to a certain extend....

The most important fact is about sustainability and the economy fundamental...
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Good Luck.
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post Jan 5 2015, 08:39 PM

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Typically tactic of delaying answer to people

 

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