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Investment THE ARC@CYBERJAYA [OWNERS' THREAD], Developer of Cova KD goes BIG

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post Jan 4 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(humble_tot @ Dec 30 2011, 10:44 PM)
bro, what happened to Cova Villa/Suites and Casa Subang? I tot of buying Cova Villa for rental nx yr.
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Appreciation only
Forget about Cova Villa and Casa subang, prices appreciated a little and not suitable for family staying, purely for students due to the GRS.
Cova Suites ok, good appreciation will happen only after the 3 years free maintenance end this year.

Rental
Remember! for save, the rental of a condo unit must not be less than 6% of your property value.
For example: 400000 x 6% = 24000 (yearly yield)
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post Jan 4 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(cova @ Jan 4 2012, 10:41 AM)
Appreciation only
Forget about Cova Villa and Casa subang, prices appreciated a little and not suitable for family staying, purely for students due to the GRS.
Cova Suites ok, good appreciation will happen only after the 3 years free maintenance end this year.

Rental
Remember! for save, the rental of a condo unit must not be less than 6% of your property value.
For example:  400000 x 6%  = 24000 (yearly yield)
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That's really depends on a few things, firstly, gross yield or net yield ? Secondly, the market price for the rental? SOmetimes, we might want 6-8% but, if the market price for rental cna only provide 5%, i guess you will have to decide if to sell it off or not.

Lastly, if property price increases every year, the rental might not follow the same increment rate as it will be very much depending market demand.......

In my personal opinion, the yield of proeprty would become lower subsequently (overall).....
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post Jan 17 2012, 12:31 PM

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I've been working in Cyberjaya for the past 7 years. I have got an apartment in Cyberjaya 3 years ago which i just sold off.

Ironically, there are at least 7 projects which will be completing in the year of 2013 - 2014 and vary from Semi-D, SOHO and Condos.

Main Question is Why developers are investing and developing this area?
On the other hand, the houses built are none for family based but mostly for investments which then will be rented to the students.

Monthly, you would expect at least RM 2500 per unit to fulfill the installments. With high number of supply and low number of demaind, prices could not be as high as RM2500.
Maintenance is a cut throat minimum of 0.35 /sqft (its not really maintained to be honest)

So, despite all these, why would anyone want to invest in Cyberjaya. Honestly, 3 years i owned a place in Cyberjaya. I do have an appreciated value of the place, BUT, that was 3 years ago, when this apartment i bought was the newest among the rest.

I'm seeing 2013 -2014 will be the years where house owners are going to be hunting for tenants instead of the other way. Well, just my seventh sense.


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post Jan 17 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(thilak833 @ Jan 17 2012, 12:31 PM)
I've been working in Cyberjaya for the past 7 years. I have got an apartment in Cyberjaya 3 years ago which i just sold off.

Ironically, there are at least 7 projects which will be completing in the year of 2013 - 2014 and vary from Semi-D, SOHO and Condos.

Main Question is Why developers are investing and developing this area?
On the other hand, the houses built are none for family based but mostly for investments which then will be rented to the students.

Monthly, you would expect at least RM 2500 per unit to fulfill the installments. With high number of supply and low number of demaind, prices could not be as high as RM2500.
Maintenance is a cut throat minimum of 0.35 /sqft (its not really maintained to be honest)

So, despite all these, why would anyone want to invest in Cyberjaya. Honestly, 3 years i owned a place in Cyberjaya. I do have an appreciated value of the place, BUT, that was 3 years ago, when this apartment i bought was the newest among the rest.

I'm seeing 2013 -2014 will be the years where house owners are going to be hunting for tenants instead of the other way. Well, just my seventh sense.
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you might be right
too many house in 2013 and 2014

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post Jan 17 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(thilak833 @ Jan 17 2012, 12:31 PM)
I've been working in Cyberjaya for the past 7 years. I have got an apartment in Cyberjaya 3 years ago which i just sold off.

Ironically, there are at least 7 projects which will be completing in the year of 2013 - 2014 and vary from Semi-D, SOHO and Condos.

Main Question is Why developers are investing and developing this area?
On the other hand, the houses built are none for family based but mostly for investments which then will be rented to the students.

Monthly, you would expect at least RM 2500 per unit to fulfill the installments. With high number of supply and low number of demaind, prices could not be as high as RM2500.
Maintenance is a cut throat minimum of 0.35 /sqft (its not really maintained to be honest)

So, despite all these, why would anyone want to invest in Cyberjaya. Honestly, 3 years i owned a place in Cyberjaya. I do have an appreciated value of the place, BUT, that was 3 years ago, when this apartment i bought was the newest among the rest.

I'm seeing 2013 -2014 will be the years where house owners are going to be hunting for tenants instead of the other way. Well, just my seventh sense.
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Why developers are keep on launching properties at Cyberjaya?

Reason is simple, if not launch it now during buying frenzy period, then when?

Can says that 99% buying is not for own stay so you got the point right which is 2013-2014 will be the year where owner looking for tenant or buyer.
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post Jan 17 2012, 03:23 PM

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cyberjaya sure supply more than demand.... who will stay in this town ?
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post Jan 17 2012, 03:28 PM

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@jacob888, totally agreed. 7 years been in CBJ, but never had a day that i wanted to stay there. Every little thing are expensive.

If anyone wanna make money in CBJ, the only good opportunity would be setup a Petrol station. There's only one in there and freakin' packed everyday. Even if you were to open illegal petrol station, you may make tonnes of money. LOL. JK !!

Honestly, buying a property with starting price of 400k and trying to earn money out of it, well. i dont really fancy it. I'd rather keep that cash in FD. At least definite return is there though its small.
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jan 17 2012, 02:45 PM)
Why developers are keep on launching properties at Cyberjaya?

Reason is simple, if not launch it now during buying frenzy period, then when?

Can says that 99% buying is not for own stay so you got the point right which is 2013-2014 will be the year where owner looking for tenant or buyer.
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unfortunately true....i just hope more and more launches will happen in 2012....then those people who when i say the price is too expensive lah, later price will go down lah all get angry of me, when 2013 comes, wait let them see the real situation.
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:03 AM

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"who will stay in this town?"

I dont dare to say that if I were you....

Years ago, people questioning why invest in Shah Alam? No entertainment license given, minimal dog licence, lack of food, etc.....well....is this still the same case today??

How about puchong? I heard so many people saying, who want to move to puchong? So jammed up, security is not good, etc.

Many many more example.....maybe many of us will not move a particular or several location....but there are enough people willing or wanting to move to those location for personal reason.

When cyberjaya started, people questioned who want to work at that location? Yes, you might be right, but , there are many willing to work there as of today.....

Only time will tells....by the way, many location or development take years to get populated or for people to move in.......so, pls dont expect cyberjaya to be immediately filled up right after all the current launches being VPed.

Fren, MK is the same despite many like to live there, is it pretty empty on on several condo to a certain extend....

The most important fact is about sustainability and the economy fundamental...
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post Feb 7 2012, 09:38 AM

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Hi there,

Any1 here knows about where is the showroom for The Arc, CyberJaya?

Thanks
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post Feb 12 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Feb 7 2012, 09:38 AM)
Hi there,

Any1 here knows about where is the showroom for The Arc, CyberJaya?

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You can view their show unit at No.19 Jalan USJ Sentral 1 (in front of the old USJ1 Giant). Tel: 03-80233366

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post Feb 12 2012, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Crystal2 @ Feb 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
You can view their show unit at No.19 Jalan USJ Sentral 1 (in front of the old USJ1 Giant). Tel: 03-80233366
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Thanks allot.

I got many doubts after reading through the bits and pieces of information... =,= sigh!... I want to go nego with the sales agent.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 13 2012, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Feb 12 2012, 07:16 PM)
Thanks allot.

I got many doubts after reading through the bits and pieces of information... =,= sigh!... I want to go nego with the sales agent..  biggrin.gif
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Good luck. As far as I deal with them you need to pay 5% - booking fee + deposit

Tried to nego if I can pay a few k and the remaining later once loan approved but they wouldn't allow.

Anyway I have decided not to go for it. Now only left units facing west .. probably around 7-8 units. Good luck.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:02 PM

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Cyberjaya is still quite difficult to say.. maybe see after 3 years from now?
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post Apr 6 2012, 12:13 PM

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Recently, there are so many projects that launched in Cyberjaya, maybe the developer did analysis the number of population increase and the number of work force increase, which contributed to the main reasons for such big number increase of supply in Cyberjaya.

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post Apr 11 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(guchemk @ Dec 22 2011, 10:28 PM)
Even though ARC advertise its GRR 8%, actually its ROI only around 5%.
(after minus those ID cost, insurance, and 3 months rental for every 4 years),

If compared with other areas like PJ, K.Damansara, Cheras, Setapak and etc which ROI is much higher (7% - 10%.),
ARC actually is not that attractive if so.

Then why I still go ahead for this ARC before come to lowyat forum ?
1) Because my job need to travel to oversea quit often,
  I dun think I have time to hande those renting.

2) Location Stretegy, it is besides Symphony, and many big companies and expatriats nearby.
3) Future development in CJ
4) ARC commit to handle all the ID, F/F, and developer will bear all the cost of lost and damage for all furniture and fitting during the GRR period.
of course GRR for 25 years is another main reason I invest ARC.

So far, for I heard from agents, ARC had a agreement with MMU to rent out the units for RM 500 per student,
that mean ARC make use our units to earn "side income" for Andaman.
But as long as they manage well, and the quality is not bad, GRR 8% for 25 years, I think it is ok to me and those "lazy investors".

But now, after knowing so much abt this Andaman background and its history,
I feel so angry and also so worry and panic.
Furthermore, our S&P is signed between "Maju Puncakbumi Sdn Bhd" and "buyers", not between "Andaman" and buyers,
so it may really come to happen that Maju Puncakbumi will "eat" our money and later announce to bankrupt,
We then can not do much to its parent company "Andaman".......

God bless me .....
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Which area is the one have 7-10% rental yield? I also wanna look into that ...
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post Apr 14 2012, 10:04 PM

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Bros,how d work progress for this project? Tx
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post Apr 30 2012, 01:40 PM

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Yesterday went to the Property expo in Kajang, know about this project and thinking of invest one unit in Block D, seems there are so many negative issues on Andaman, should i give up?

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QUOTE(janyap @ Apr 30 2012, 01:40 PM)
Yesterday went to the Property expo in Kajang, know about this project and thinking of invest one unit in Block D, seems there are so many negative issues on Andaman, should i give up?
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bro,

Still available ka? Tot sold out long time hmm.gif
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QUOTE(janyap @ Apr 30 2012, 01:40 PM)
Yesterday went to the Property expo in Kajang, know about this project and thinking of invest one unit in Block D, seems there are so many negative issues on Andaman, should i give up?
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How much now?



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