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post Feb 13 2011, 08:17 PM, updated 14y ago

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If AirAsia forced out of KKIA's Terminal 2 in June

1 Million less tourists


posted on : 13 February 2011

source : Daily Express

KUALA LUMPUR: Sabah stands to lose a substantial amount in tourism revenue if AirAsia is forced to move its operation from Terminal 2 of the Kota Kinabalu International Airport (KKIA) to the main terminal.

The budget airline's Chief Executive Officer, Datuk Seri Tony Fernandes said the Federal Government through the Ministry of Transport has set a June 1, 2011 deadline for them to shift to Terminal 1.

He said AirAsia wants to continue operating at its present premises due to its plan to turn Kota Kinabalu into an eastern hub for domestic and international flights, including from the United States of America and Australia.

"We have a headache in Kota Kinabalu (KK) with Malaysia Airports that is trying to move us from Terminal 2 to the main terminal...we will not move out.

"I will chain myself and the FRU (Federal Reserve Unit) has to take us, he quipped. "Forcing us to KKIA's main terminal will mean our current airport tax of RM25 per passenger will have to be increased to RM51 because of the aerobridge and other facilities and this will mean more flights will be cancelled.


"Even our Indonesian counterparts are reviewing whether, they should keep the KK-Jakarta route due to this move. In fact, I know Indonesia is coming today (to meet him) and they want to cancel the KK-Jakarta flight soon," he said.

Fernandes said this in a press conference with Sabah and Sarawak media at his office AirAisa's LCCT at Sepang on Friday.

Disclosing AirAsia's expansion plans at Terminal 2, he said it intends to acquire two more aircraft whereby each plane can bring in about 400,000 passengers per year to Sabah which overall would equate to almost one million tourist arrivals.

Presently, he said, AirAsia operates six planes out to Terminal 2 bringing in about 2.4 million tourists to KK.

"Just imagine how the expansion of Terminal 2 would benefit the Sabah tourism industry and boost the State's economy as well.

"Having a total of eight planes including the two proposed planes in the expansion of Terminal 2, he said, is that Terminal 1 does not have enough facilities for Air Asia to commence operations like having sufficient check-in decks.

"We've got six planes and our planes work harder than any other as we do a lot of flights. As you can see, one delay causes a ripple effect because that is how we do low fares. (Flight turnarounds) every 25 minutes.

"We are very against it (move) because Terminal 1 does not have enough facilities for our operation. It looks empty but during peak time, a lot of planes come in...so where are you going to put the planes and there are not enough check-in desks. People do not think about these things," he said.

According to Fernandes, he was made to understand that AirAsia at Terminal 2 is being forced to move out as the Federal Government wants to convert the terminal as a cargo facility.

"They (government) say to me that they need a cargo facility. So move the cargo over to the other side and expand. Which one is giving Sabah more...a little bit more cargo or millions of tourists that we are bringing in?" he asked.

On new routes for KK, Fernandes said there were no plans due to the Government's move to force its operation to shift from Terminal 2.

"My recommendations is to move it (cargo) somewhere else, and let us put another two to three more planes because we have given a plan. There is some land behind Terminal 2 but that is like being disputed for 100 years, you know the land behind...a very complicated case I'm told," he said, adding that the move issue has been hanging over their heads for two years.


Fernandes said he is getting pressure from Sabah. So I spoke to the Chief Minister who responded saying 'No'. He (Chief Minister) said you guys good at what you are doing, do whatever you want, I support it.

"I know that Irene (Sabah Tourism Board General Manager Datuk Irene Charuruks) is causing us problems...but STB has been very good to us, so I don't understand," he said, without elaborating.





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AirAsia boss explains why airline must remain at Terminal 2

13th February, 2011

Source : New Sabah Times

KUALA LUMPUR: AirAsia insists on remaining at the low-cost terminal at Tg Aru and warns that Sabah could see a significant drop in the number of passenger arrivals if the airline is forced to relocate to the new Kota Kinabalu International Airport (KKIA). AirAsia Group Chief Executive Officer Dato Sri Dr Tony Fernandez argued if the government still goes ahead with the plan, the budget airline will be burdened with higher costs and charges which would badly affect its current service to the state economy especially in tourism.

He also claimed that the new KKIA terminal does not have enough facilities to meet with the needs of the airline.

“We are very against it because they don’t have enough facilities on the terminal for us from the start,” he said to reporters from Sabah and Sarawak at AirAsia’s headquarters here on Friday.

“It looks empty but during peak time there are a lot of planes coming in so where are we going to put our planes and there’s not enough check-in desks,” he said.

He added that the move would not only dampen AirAsia’s plans to expand into new routes but also jeopardize its current routes as well.

“Already my Indonesian counterparts are reviewing whether to keep the Jakarta-KK (route),” he said.

According to Fernandez, AirAsia was planning to add two more planes to the current fleet of six in Kota Kinabalu which is estimated to bring in an additional of about 800,000 passengers into the state in one year.

A move to the new terminal would also mean that the Passenger Service Charge (PSC) would cost higher from RM25 to RM51 that would burden passengers, he said.

AirAsia also had plans to use the low-cost terminal in Kota Kinabalu as a major eastern hub to venture into markets in North and South America, Australia, Korea, China and Japan.

But pressure from the Ministry of Transport to move the airline to the new terminal, expected in June this year, has forced AirAsia to put all these plans on hold until a resolution is reached.

With AirAsia moving to KKIA, the plan is to turn the low-cost terminal as a cargo facility which Fernandez described as not a profitable move as there is more money in bringing in passengers.

“KK is now depending on the low cost terminal. My recommendation is to get rid of the cargo and move it somewhere else. We have given a plan. What’s giving Sabah more? A little bit of cargo or millions of tourist that we are bringing?” he said.

At the moment, he said, the ministry and Malaysia Airports Berhad have not responded to the proposal which is putting the current situation into a stalemate.

Earlier, he described Sabah as a home to AirAsia in many ways and that the state government has been giving great support to the airline. He reminisced the early days when the airline had only two planes from which it built its empire. But he urged the government to allow it to grow further and beyond.

“We can do so much more. East Malaysia has so much to offer but the airport charges and the lack of airports, developing them is frustrating us. We are being held back to develop more international flights and it’s beginning to already affect KK,” he said. “Sabah really supported us, brought us to where we are, now we are saying ‘Don’t stop the support. We don’t need the money or anything. Just help us in expanding the LCCT,” he added.

AirAsia in Kota Kinabalu flies to 13 destinations in 6 countries including China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Taiwan and is estimated to carry around a million tourists into the state.

In December 2010, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha said that the ministry had an understanding with AirAsia to relocate airline, as well as other low-cost carriers to the new terminal once the RM1.4 billion upgrade project of the new terminal’s runway and resurfacing work were completed.

But Fernandez is determined to stay put whatever the outcome would be, saying that AirAsia has a proven success story in Sabah and wants to accomplish more.




Ministry of Transport reply to Tony's statement



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MOT refutes AirAsia CEO’s misgivings on relocation to KKIA Terminal 1


14th February, 2011


KOTA KINABALU: The Ministry of Transport says the benefits far outweigh the extra costs for low-cost airline, AirAsia, when it relocates to the new Kota Kinabalu International Airport terminal scheduled in mid June this year.

According to its deputy minister, Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri, the RM1.6 billion new airport is built to cater for the needs of all airline companies including AirAsia and support their growth in the industry. He acknowledges the extra costs involved but believes quality service and infrastructure would justify the expenses.

“The airport has the facilities to meet the needs of all airlines including AirAsia. There are extra costs involved of course but we have built this airport to ensure the growth of the industry,” he told New Sabah Times yesterday.


He was asked to comment on AirAsia Group CEO Dato Sri Dr Tony Fernandez who had said on Friday that the airline was against the relocation, citing higher costs and charges as well as lack of facilities as among the reasons.

He told newsmen then that if the airline had to move out from its traditional home at Terminal 2 to KKIA Terminal 1, its expansion plan for Sabah which includes strengthening the existing routes and the opening of new markets from here all the way to North and South America, Australia, Korea, China and Japan would be affected. And the state could experience a significant drop in the number of passenger and tourist arrivals as a result.

But the AirAsia boss’ stand on the matter however came as a little surprise to Abdul Rahim who said that the airline had in fact signed a letter of undertaking with the Ministry of Transport a few months ago concerning its relocation to the KKIA Terminal 1.

In December 2010, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha had said that the ministry had an understanding with AirAsia to relocate the airline and other low-cost airlines once the upgrading project of the new terminal’s runway and resurfacing work gets completed.

And he disagreed with Fernandez that KKIA would be congested during peak seasons.

“The new airport is designed for fourteen million passengers. Now we have five million. So the question about congestion does not arise. Even after ten years I don’t think we can reach its maximum capacity. So there’s plenty of space,” he explained.

On Fernandez’s concern that the relocation would cost passengers to pay RM51 of Passenger Service Charge (PSC) from what it is now at RM25 at the low-cost terminal, the deputy minister insisted the “good facilities” at KKIA would justify the extra cost. He explained the RM51 applies to passengers going abroad while domestic ones only pay RM9.

He said Malaysia airports charge a much lower PSC rate as compared with airports in other countries.

He further explained that cost on airport facilities such as the aerobridge would not hurt the airline for it is only about RM85 or RM0.50 per person on board an aircraft that carries about 100 passengers.

“After all, it’s like paying RM0.50 sen for convenience. And it’s OKU (individuals with disability) friendly,” he added.

Working the maths further down, he said airlines would benefit in terms of smoother transfers and connectivity, and in AirAsia’s case, passengers making a connection flight from other airlines could save money and time.


“Say for example, passengers who travel to Shenzhen (in China) on AirAsia could conveniently transfer if they fly here with another airline. They don’t have to take a taxi to go to Terminal 2 and lose precious time due to traffic congestion,” he said.

Fernandez said Friday that AirAsia had done a lot for East Malaysia particularly Sabah which he considered as the airline’s home in many ways and now wants to do a lot more. For this reason he called on the government to allow the airline to remain at Terminal 2.

Abdul Rahim responded saying that the ministry would leave it to the cabinet to decide.

In a statement issued Friday, AirAsia announced that it had carried over 32 million guests from all over into East Malaysia so far.

Meanwhile, Tourism, Culture and Environment Minister Datuk Masidi Manjun, when contacted to comment about the possible drop in the number of tourist arrivals to the state as claimed by Fernandez as a result of the relocation, said that he needed to gather more facts concerning the matter and would only respond in due time.


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Tony Fernandez got extra set of balls compared to ordinary man.
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post Feb 13 2011, 08:22 PM

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he is a Dr ?

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The budget airline's Chief Executive Officer, Datuk Seri Tony Fernandes said the Federal Government through the Ministry of Transport has set a June 1, 2011 deadline for them to shift to Terminal 1.

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post Feb 13 2011, 08:35 PM

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btw, he dont want to move because he the increase of airport tax.
just wondering, the airport tax for KK is pay up to date?
coz airasia got history of not paying the airport tax to the Malaysia airport.
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Feb 13 2011, 08:37 PM)
somehow malaysian jelly of successful businessman who isnt bumi.
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i support fat tony
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he have to support the operation costs.
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An increase of RM26 would definitely reduce their profit while increasing their operation cost. Airasia needs to absorb the extra cost in order to stay competitive as MAS going to counter them with Firefly if AirAsia increase their price
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QUOTE(ulet @ Feb 13 2011, 08:35 PM)
btw, he dont want to move because he the increase of airport tax.
just wondering, the airport tax for KK is pay up to date?
coz airasia got history of not paying the airport tax to the Malaysia airport.
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You hit the jackpot.

It's all about money.

He just wants to avoid the tax.
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Feb 13 2011, 08:37 PM)
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funfact: T. Fernandes has a very kiamsiap wife
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 13 2011, 12:56 PM)
You hit the jackpot.

It's all about money.

He just wants to avoid the tax.
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Like I said:

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AirAsia wanted to have their own terminal 2 just like how they had one at KL and pleaded for LCCT at penang, johor and kuching
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QUOTE(ulet @ Feb 13 2011, 08:35 PM)
btw, he dont want to move because he the increase of airport tax.
just wondering, the airport tax for KK is pay up to date?
coz airasia got history of not paying the airport tax to the Malaysia airport.
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Malaysian airport not giving value to airasia. wat for want to pay them?
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"We've got six planes and our planes work harder than any other as we do a lot of flights. As you can see, one delay causes a ripple effect because that is how we do low fares. (Flight turnarounds) every 25 minutes.

"We are very against it (move) because Terminal 1 does not have enough facilities for our operation. It looks empty but during peak time, a lot of planes come in...so where are you going to put the planes and there are not enough check-in desks. People do not think about these things," he said.

According to Fernandes, he was made to understand that AirAsia at Terminal 2 is being forced to move out as the Federal Government wants to convert the terminal as a cargo facility.

"They (government) say to me that they need a cargo facility. So move the cargo over to the other side and expand. Which one is giving Sabah more...a little bit more cargo or millions of tourists that we are bringing in?" he asked.

On new routes for KK, Fernandes said there were no plans due to the Government's move to force its operation to shift from Terminal 2.

"My recommendations is to move it (cargo) somewhere else, and let us put another two to three more planes because we have given a plan. There is some land behind Terminal 2 but that is like being disputed for 100 years, you know the land behind...a very complicated case I'm told," he said, adding that the move issue has been hanging over their heads for two years.
it lah sebab .. Datuk Seri Tony Fernandes tak bayar cukup rasuah.. tak bayar rasuah... sikit sikit kerajaan put kecoh and kacau you punya business lah..BN owned sabah,,, that bad news.... if karajaan mau tax .. so how?

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MAS trying to con AirAsia?
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No plans to build his own airport like last time?
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without air asia, most of us wont b flying makan angin n post dat im-so-cool-cos-im-at oversea pics..

mas need a good competitor
previous management tipu makan n got away wit it

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Tony always get bullied by these people.
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Feb 13 2011, 09:42 PM)
Malaysian airport not giving value to airasia. wat for want to pay them?
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the problem is, u use n u hav to pay.
the airport tax already paid by customers when u bought the tickets but airasia dont pass the money to MAB(last time, dont know now).
The airport tax is the charges for using the airport.

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QUOTE(ulet @ Feb 14 2011, 07:34 AM)
the problem is, u use n u hav to pay.
the airport tax already paid by customers when u bought the tickets but airasia dont pass the money to MAB(last time, dont know now).
The airport tax is the charges for using the airport.
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Yeah, when AirAsia gets "discount" on the tax, they don't return it back to the customers.
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Tony always get bullied by these people.
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Nah don't worry, Tony is a tough Indian Businessman.

I know buggers of this level are very hard to crack.
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Feb 13 2011, 09:14 PM)
funfact: T. Fernandes has a very kiamsiap wife
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There is some land behind Terminal 2 but that is like being disputed for 100 years, you know the land behind


@Benz, tanah apa tu?


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 14 2011, 10:07 AM)
Nah don't worry, Tony is a tough Indian Businessman.

I know buggers of this level are very hard to crack.
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so would he instruct AirAsia to continue remaining at Terminal 2 on this coming June although evacuation notice is handed to him?
I have a feeling AirAsia would not move out....he would have bought Terminal 2 i guess if he has the capability to do so
not an easy task for him fighting to get a new LCCT at KL and this LCCT at KK. He has been voicing out many times by asking the gov to build LCCT at other major cities in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Feb 14 2011, 10:06 AM)
Yeah, when AirAsia gets "discount" on the tax, they don't return it back to the customers.
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Return what tax? Their flights already so cheap u wan them refind this n that. Go fly Mas like that lor..

Silly msia airports trying to bully airasia.

Support u all da way tony!
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MOT refutes AirAsia CEO’s misgivings on relocation to KKIA Terminal 1


14th February, 2011


KOTA KINABALU: The Ministry of Transport says the benefits far outweigh the extra costs for low-cost airline, AirAsia, when it relocates to the new Kota Kinabalu International Airport terminal scheduled in mid June this year.

According to its deputy minister, Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri, the RM1.6 billion new airport is built to cater for the needs of all airline companies including AirAsia and support their growth in the industry. He acknowledges the extra costs involved but believes quality service and infrastructure would justify the expenses.

“The airport has the facilities to meet the needs of all airlines including AirAsia. There are extra costs involved of course but we have built this airport to ensure the growth of the industry,” he told New Sabah Times yesterday.


He was asked to comment on AirAsia Group CEO Dato Sri Dr Tony Fernandez who had said on Friday that the airline was against the relocation, citing higher costs and charges as well as lack of facilities as among the reasons.

He told newsmen then that if the airline had to move out from its traditional home at Terminal 2 to KKIA Terminal 1, its expansion plan for Sabah which includes strengthening the existing routes and the opening of new markets from here all the way to North and South America, Australia, Korea, China and Japan would be affected. And the state could experience a significant drop in the number of passenger and tourist arrivals as a result.

But the AirAsia boss’ stand on the matter however came as a little surprise to Abdul Rahim who said that the airline had in fact signed a letter of undertaking with the Ministry of Transport a few months ago concerning its relocation to the KKIA Terminal 1.

In December 2010, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha had said that the ministry had an understanding with AirAsia to relocate the airline and other low-cost airlines once the upgrading project of the new terminal’s runway and resurfacing work gets completed.

And he disagreed with Fernandez that KKIA would be congested during peak seasons.

“The new airport is designed for fourteen million passengers. Now we have five million. So the question about congestion does not arise. Even after ten years I don’t think we can reach its maximum capacity. So there’s plenty of space,” he explained.

On Fernandez’s concern that the relocation would cost passengers to pay RM51 of Passenger Service Charge (PSC) from what it is now at RM25 at the low-cost terminal, the deputy minister insisted the “good facilities” at KKIA would justify the extra cost. He explained the RM51 applies to passengers going abroad while domestic ones only pay RM9.

He said Malaysia airports charge a much lower PSC rate as compared with airports in other countries.

He further explained that cost on airport facilities such as the aerobridge would not hurt the airline for it is only about RM85 or RM0.50 per person on board an aircraft that carries about 100 passengers.

“After all, it’s like paying RM0.50 sen for convenience. And it’s OKU (individuals with disability) friendly,” he added.

Working the maths further down, he said airlines would benefit in terms of smoother transfers and connectivity, and in AirAsia’s case, passengers making a connection flight from other airlines could save money and time.


“Say for example, passengers who travel to Shenzhen (in China) on AirAsia could conveniently transfer if they fly here with another airline. They don’t have to take a taxi to go to Terminal 2 and lose precious time due to traffic congestion,” he said.

Fernandez said Friday that AirAsia had done a lot for East Malaysia particularly Sabah which he considered as the airline’s home in many ways and now wants to do a lot more. For this reason he called on the government to allow the airline to remain at Terminal 2.

Abdul Rahim responded saying that the ministry would leave it to the cabinet to decide.

In a statement issued Friday, AirAsia announced that it had carried over 32 million guests from all over into East Malaysia so far.

Meanwhile, Tourism, Culture and Environment Minister Datuk Masidi Manjun, when contacted to comment about the possible drop in the number of tourist arrivals to the state as claimed by Fernandez as a result of the relocation, said that he needed to gather more facts concerning the matter and would only respond in due time.


a reply from Transport Ministry to Tony's statement
Previously, the MOT stated that they have reached an understanding with AirAsia and it was made to known that AirAsia has agreed to move back to Terminal 1.
It was also claimed that the cost of it would be the same as an offer from the MOT to AirAsia in shifting to the main terminal.
Now the situation is, did AirAsia made an agreement with MOT to shift back or who is telling the lie here?
Paying a higher price for better facilities is better or we do not need this facilities at all?

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:13 AM)
Return what tax? Their flights already so cheap u wan them refind this n that. Go fly Mas like that lor..

Silly msia airports trying to bully airasia.

Support u all da way tony!
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i thought their flights is cheap bcoz of classes?

MAS is exclusive class is it?

Air Asia is compete wit Firefly hmm.gif
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Feb 14 2011, 10:06 AM)
Yeah, when AirAsia gets "discount" on the tax, they don't return it back to the customers.
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If the flight is too cheap means something is cut for the sake of it like perhaps maintenance...you want to ride a steel coffin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Air_Flight_574

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QUOTE(HarDiE @ Feb 14 2011, 11:34 AM)
i thought their flights is cheap bcoz of classes?

MAS is exclusive class is it?

Air Asia is compete wit Firefly hmm.gif
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If that is the case... MAS ticket wouldnt be so cheap comparing to 10 years ago...

Only after Airasia got most of the customer that MAS start to offer cheap fare,
So its not the matter of class anymore...
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QUOTE(James_yka @ Feb 14 2011, 01:04 PM)
If that is the case... MAS ticket wouldnt be so cheap comparing to 10 years ago...

Only after Airasia got most of the customer that MAS start to offer cheap fare,
So its not the matter of class anymore...
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its quite true...

just want to know differences between Low Cost Airline (Air Asia) n Economy Class (MAS).... rclxub.gif
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sapot tony.. go air asia .. the one and only low class airline!
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shiet lar, if airasia moved to terminal 1 finding parking will be like hell. Right now both airport's parking is already so limited. I like to use mas and prefer to use an airport that's not crowded by "kampung style people naik bus" in terminal 1
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airasia company not enough bumiputra at top levels
thats y goverment kacau.
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air asia got jason lo to sing for them
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 13 2011, 08:56 PM)
You hit the jackpot.

It's all about money.

He just wants to avoid the tax.
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Of course its about money. I thought that was obvious enough.

The same with the government's action in pressuring AA to move to T1: Money. So MAHB can gain more profits.

So its just a matter of who you support. I dont know what MAHB can give me, but i do know AA can offer me cheaper flights if they remain in T2. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Annaresti @ Feb 16 2011, 10:23 AM)
Of course its about money. I thought that was obvious enough.

The same with the government's action in pressuring AA to move to T1: Money. So MAHB can gain more profits.

So its just a matter of who you support. I dont know what MAHB can give me, but i do know AA can offer me cheaper flights if they remain in T2.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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MAHB are the airport operators.

No airport, no flights.

MAHB had already subsisdised AIrAsia to the tune of millions (tax rebate on airport tax which is overdue by years).

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‘AirAsia must sort out problem’

Feb 15, 2011

KOTA KINABALU: AirAsia will have to discuss with airport officials its reluctance to move out of the low-cost terminal and start operating at the international terminal at Kota Kinabalu International Airport in June.

The Sabah government has no say in the matter and hopes that AirAsia will not drag it into the airline’s bid to stay put at the low-cost terminal more popularly known as Terminal 2.

State Tourism, Environment and Culture Minister Datuk Masidi Manjun said: “It is up to AirAsia to work out its problem with Malaysia Airports Berhad and the Federal Government as they have the final say on how and where airlines should operate within KKIA.”

AirAsia chief executive officer Datuk Tony Fernandes, during a special press conference for the media from Sabah and Sarawak on Friday, said the airline was not keen to move out of the Terminal 2 as its costs would increase and in turn force it to reduce flights, causing Sabah to lose some one million tourists.

Fernandes said the state government had been cooperative but an official of Sabah Tourism Board (STB) was among those causing some problems in the airline’s bid to stay on at Terminal 2.

Responding to Fernandes’ aspersions against the STB official, Masidi said: “STB does not own or operate airports. In this case, KKIA is owned and operated by MAB, a government -linked company under the purview of Transport Ministry.

“They decide how airlines ope-rate at their airport, so for him (Fernandes) to suggest otherwise is not just a misrepresentation of the facts but unfairly dragging STB into the problem,” Masidi added.

Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri said his ministry was surprised by Fernandes’ stand on the matter as AirAsia had signed a letter of undertaking with the ministry concerning the relocation to Teminal 1.

Rahim said the RM1.6bil newly upgraded airport was built to cater to the needs of airline companies’ growth.

There were extra costs but these would be justified with improved quality of service, he added.

On Fernandes’ concern that the relocation would cost passengers to pay RM51 for the Passenger Service Charge (PSC) from the current RM25 at the low-cost terminal, Rahim said the RM51 applied to passengers going abroad while domestic travellers would only pay RM9.

The low cost terminal will be converted for cargo handling.


this issue is newspaper headline everyday
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Better if AirAsia move to Terminal 1: STB

Published on: Tuesday, February 15, 2011

Kota Kinabalu: Sabah Tourism Board (STB) Chairman Datuk Seri Tengku Zainal Adlin said the issue raised by AirAsia Group Chief Executive Officer Datuk Sri Tony Fernandez is basically between the Ministry of Transport, Malaysia Airports Berhad and AirAsia.

"Sabah Tourism Board does not own nor operate an airport," he said in a statement, Monday.

However, he said from the tourism industry perspective, the proposed relocation of AirAsia to the Kota Kinabalu International Airport (KKIA) Terminal 1 would benefit all parties, especially for convenience of passengers and connectivity.

"It will enhance KKIA as Malaysia's secondary aviation hub.

STB will continue to render assistance to all airlines that will bring more visitors to the State," he said, Monday.

As a matter of fact, Adlin said, AirAsia had written a letter of undertaking to the Minister of Transport a few months ago to relocate to Terminal 1.

"The newly-completed nine million passengers per annum capacity at Terminal 1 provides bigger and better facilities to both passengers and airlines with a total of three times more parking bays.

"Besides more check-in counters of 64 compared to only 23 in Terminal 2, car parks of 1,400 compared to only 200 in Terminal 2, 20 dedicated parking bays for tour coaches and none in Terminal 2," he said.

Terminal 2, he said, was just a temporary terminal and that the passenger movements in Terminal 2 had far exceeded its design capacity of two million passengers per annum.

In 2010, there were 2.7 million passengers, which resulted in total congestion and inconvenience to passengers such as inadequate toilets, congestion at check-in counters, security and Custom, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) counters, he said.

In Terminal 1, Adlin said AirAsia would have a dedicated island of 16 check-in counters compared to only nine at Terminal 2.

STB was also informed that there would be no aerobridges from Bay 9 to Bay 19, which means low cost carriers have options to use again.

"Again as said by Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri today (Feb 14) the use of aerobridges would only cost 50 sen per passenger," he said.


Fernandes had said that AirAsia had been given until June 1, 2011 by the Transport Ministry to shift to Terminal 1.

However, AirAsia wanted to continue operating from its present premises due to its plan to turn Kota Kinabalu into an eastern hub for domestic and international flights.

"We will have a headache in Kota Kinabalu with Malaysia Airports that is trying to move us from Terminal 2 to the main terminal É we will not move out.

"I will chain myself and the FRU has to take us," he quipped.

Fernandes also cited STB General Manager Datuk Irene Charuruks as the cause of the problems.

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i would like airasia to move to t1 because t2 is too old. plus t1 can support much more aircraft than t2. plus airasia seats are very uncomfatable compared to others. they use leather than fabric. recommend airasia to use fabric than leather. wow, airasia has plans to the US! mostly transpasific flights?
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is this another case of businessmen who refuse to invest in an upgrade ?

Anyways I think in time KKIA will still need to be relocated away from KK city now that theres direct flights to KK.

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wondering...how this cases end up...lol
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 16 2011, 10:30 AM)
MAHB are the airport operators.

No airport, no flights.

MAHB had already subsisdised AIrAsia to the tune of millions (tax rebate on airport tax which is overdue by years).
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mahb is given the monopoly to build and operate airports in malaysia.
thats why they are able to raise prices as they like.

if airasia were allowed to BUILD their own airport, this would mean lower costs and cheaper fares , for you and me.
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AirAsia sucks.. Frankly speaking they like to delay flights, and even expensive than MAS..
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QUOTE(apache79 @ Dec 5 2012, 11:50 PM)
AirAsia sucks.. Frankly speaking they like to delay flights, and even expensive than MAS..
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my officemate this year many times travel oversea thanks to air asia cheap flight ticket. what say u?
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 16 2011, 10:30 AM)
MAHB are the airport operators.

No airport, no flights.

MAHB had already subsisdised AIrAsia to the tune of millions (tax rebate on airport tax which is overdue by years).
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THIS!!!!!

he just donwanna pay tax....nuffsaid...
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when we buy air asia ticket everything also we have to pay, but air asia boss everything dont want to pay laugh.gif
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so how is this case? got conclusion ma?
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Tony was never a favourite among power players in msia

More airport tax mean price hike

Ppl will move to MAS bcos free food n ample leg room
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Feb 13 2011, 08:37 PM)
somehow malaysian jelly of successful businessman who isnt bumi.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 13 2011, 08:56 PM)
You hit the jackpot.

It's all about money.

He just wants to avoid the tax.
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its all about money but stupid racist serf will always relate everything to race laugh.gif
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Is that GOV want eat AA slowly ?

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